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Nintendo Files Patent For Game That Plays Itself

Kotaku points out a recent patent filed by Nintendo which automates gameplay unless the user specifically chooses to play a particular part of the game. Quoting: "The new system, described in a patent filed by Nintendo Creative Director Shigeru Miyamoto on June 30, 2008, but made public today, looks to solve the issue of casual gamers losing interest in a game before they complete it, while still maintaining the interest of hardcore gamers. The solution would turn a game into a full-length cut scene of sorts, allowing players to jump into and out of the action whenever they wanted. But when played this way, gamers would not be able to save their progress, maintaining the challenge of completing a game without skipping or cheating."

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  1. This patent might be thrown out: by gcnaddict · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's look at it this way: this is combining simple, linear bots into the storyline which play as the first person in the event that the main player gets bored.

    Am I the only one who sees this as a bit obvious and un-patent-worthy? Games have been doing this for a while during Demo screens... just without the story advancement.

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  2. It will never stand. by callistostg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Square-Enix has prior art on their side with Final Fantasy XII.

    1. Re:It will never stand. by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      *cough*Idlerpg*cough*

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  3. Progress Quest! by forkazoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or, at least, Progress Quest with the addition of an option to play it. Frankly, I don't see why adding an option to play a game is defensibly patentable. I mean, I could choose not to play it without any special technology at all!

  4. And when the console gets bored? by VShael · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or finds the game too difficult?
    I don't want to come home and find my Wii browsing for tech-porn.

  5. Life Imitates Art by spoonboy42 · · Score: 3, Funny
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  6. Um, prior art- Progress Quest by coder111 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This will never stand because of this: http://www.progressquest.com/

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  7. Nintendo does it, yes by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nintendo has always played the legal card to the maximum extent possible, going all the way back to the days of draconian contracts that forbade you from making a game for anyone else if Nintendo published one of your games. They tried to control even how much you can advertise. It got ruled invalid eventually, but in the meantime, yes, they did try to put anyone out of business who no loner toes the Nintendo line.

    Or here in Europe they tried to strong-arm the retailers into what they can and can't sell, and basically used the European market as an experiment in whether they can make more money with only a handful of games and restricting access to anything else. They actually got slapped with an anti-trust for that, and were found guilty. Worse yet, it turned out that they knew they're in violation of the law, and had planned to violate it, thinking they can make more money than the fine can possibly be. (Wrong guess.)

    To get back to patents and to more recent times, they also patented or filed for patent:

    - the XBox Live, basically

    - emulation of its own consoles, again, to try to keep other people from doing it (and, yes, they tried to bully emulator developpers before)

    - weird stuff, like comparing each other's avatars online, never mind that people have been holding costume contests in COH since the fucking launch in 2004

    - something as broad as making a stage magician kinda game/sim

    - a "wearable" controller to digitize body motions, never mind that motion capture has been done before like that for ages

    - a rechargeable game controller never mind that chargers like that existed for mice, headsets, and everything for freaking ages before that

    - just about anything you can put a motion detector into, from bikes to teddy bears

    - horror games, or at least stuff like hallucinations or hearing voices in games, never mind that neither is new, and an insanity sim had even been made to train police in how to deal with dementia people

    Etc.

    Some of those seem to even exist just to keep others from doing it. E.g., they filed for a patent for console online gaming, at a time where they were publicly bashing it and saying they have no intention to do that.

    Frankly, I don't get the hardon some people seem to get about Nintendo. While they do have a couple of talented designers, the management has an uninterrupted history of being evil fucks that make MS look good by comparison. They tried every possible way to lock competitors out, and developers in, some of which MS so far never even dreamed about. E.g., I don't remember MS suing anyone for developing for the Mac too. They too broke anti-trust laws. Etc.

    And at least the previous management had no problem with even insulting its customers, especially if, god forbid, they're asking for a genre Nintendo isn't currently selling. Yamauchi publicly called RPG gamers "depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games", for example.

    The only thing that changed that was the GameCube being the second dud in a row, which prompted a mellowing out of attitude. If they ever get back in a positio

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  8. Prior art! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm fairly sure IBM already patented patenting ideas patenting itself.

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  9. Once again, Barney showed us the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Years ago when I was a game tester at Sega, there was a guy in the next cubicle who was unfortunate enough to be stuck with "Barney's Hide and Seek".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney's_Hide_and_Seek [wikipedia.org] Though he could generally be heard to be muttering "kill me" over and over to himself, he had the advantage over the rest of us because whenever he wanted to pretend like he was working, all he had to do was slump in his chair with his controller held limply in his hands, doze off, and yes, the game would play itself. The idea,evidently, was that kids of a certain age wouldn't have the attention span or skills necessary to help Barney do whatever it is he does, and so an auto-pilot feature would kick in if you stalled long enough.

  10. Bzzt. Different interview by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nope, it's not even remotely the one I'm refering to. The quote about RPG gamers is from an 1999 interview.

    But, yes, he did do a lot of stupid quotes in his time, including the one you linked to. Telling me that I play boring games, and that I should stop playing them for no other reason than that all the RPG developers left Nintendo... isn't exactly going to make me like him.

    Especially because of this: he didn't play either kind of games, and took pride in not having played any game ever. So _how_ does he fucking know which are boring and which aren't? On what knowledge does he base his presuming to tell me what to play? Oh, wait, he's just telling me to buy his snake-oil and stop buying the competition's. And not even in nice terms.

    I mean, picture me coming and saying something like, "I haven't played any MMO, and I'm proud I never blew my money on those, but I know that Vanguard rules and WoW is crap. Only depressed losers play WoW. Stop playing that boring game now." (Just hypothetically.) Wouldn't you say, "so how would you know, if you haven't played either?"

    I mean it's like a nun telling you which sexual position feels better. Or like a vegan telling you which meat tastes better and which to buy. Or like the Amish telling you which brand of car is more fun to drive. I could go on, but you get the idea already. How would he flipping know?

    But, as I was saying, he doesn't. He was just telling us to stop buying the competition's product and start buying more of his. Without even having used either. Just because one makes him money and the other doesn't.

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