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Chandrayaan Maps Apollo Missions

maheshc writes "Chandrayaan has mapped 6 Apollo landing sites on the Moon (Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, and 17). More at the Times of India. Perhaps time to retire all the conspiracy theories ..."

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  1. Uh Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pics or it didn't happen.

  2. Please... by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps time to retire all the conspiracy theories ...

    Oh come on, you know how this is going to go. The conspiracy theorists will claim any photos are real terrain photos with CGI Apollo artifacts added. Or maybe CGI terrain photos with CGI Apollo artifacts added.

    I fully believe that there exist people whose belief in their conspiracies is so unshakeable that you could load them onto a rocket, fly their worthless ass to the moon, land them at the Apollo sites, let them see the items firsthand, and they would STILL deny that we went there 40-ish years ago.

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    1. Re:Please... by GleeBot · · Score: 4, Funny

      I fully believe that there exist people whose belief in their conspiracies is so unshakeable that you could load them onto a rocket, fly their worthless ass to the moon, land them at the Apollo sites, let them see the items firsthand, and they would STILL deny that we went there 40-ish years ago.

      That's when you crack their visors open. Win-win for everyone involved.

    2. Re:Please... by Yetihehe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Easy, they would just say you faked their entire flight.

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    3. Re:Please... by mfnickster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Easy, they would just say you faked their entire flight.

      Either that or they'd say, "Sure, NOW we have the technology to land on the moon-- which is why you put all that stuff here last week!"

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    4. Re:Please... by Yetihehe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Conspiracy theorists don't really care about facts.

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    5. Re:Please... by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But, you can be placed on a centerfuge and give a acceleration that is indeed correct, but imply you're being launched...

      You can give a _locally_Euclidean_ acceleration which is correct, but not a _non_locally_Euclidean_ acceleration which is correct (in other words, tidal forces will be very significant, especially for any centrifuge which is smaller than the entire earth. Someone simply dropping two objects separated by a meter or so can easily detect if they're in a gravity well---or in a centrifuge---or being accelerated more linearly, as to the moon).

  3. It's a waste of time trying to convince them. by wfstanle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There will be no way you can convince the conspiracy fans. This includes all of the conspiracy theories, you just can't satisfy these people. They will simply say that NASA and the Indian space agency are in cahoots and they will dismiss it.

    1. Re:It's a waste of time trying to convince them. by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They will simply say that NASA and the Indian space agency are in cahoots and they will dismiss it.

      That's the way it works.

      The basic thought pattern also suggests that they believe the Soviets and the US were in cahoots too, either that or they haven't thought the objections through. Maybe they don't say it outright, but that's the logical conclusion of their arguments because if the Soviets had any reason to believe it was all faked, they could have said so very loudly, and I don't recall stumbling across anything like that.

  4. Offshore by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    What?! Now they're out-sourcing the conspiracies to foreign workers?! This is a travesty! America deserves a Government who will maintain an American workforce to craft it's most inner secrets and public deceptions.

  5. Six? by AJWM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Chandrayaan has mapped 6 Apollo landing sites on the Moon (Apollo 11, 12, 14 15 and 17)"

    I count that as five. So the Apollo 16 landing (only) was faked?

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  6. Mod Parent up -- Good catch! by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apollo 11, 1969, Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, Michael Collins
    Apollo 12, 1969, Charles (Pete) Conrad, , Alan Bean, Richard Francis Gordon
    Apollo 14, 1971, Alan Shepard, Edgar Mitchell, Stuart Roosa
    Apollo 15, 1971, David Scott, James Irwin, Alfred Worden
    Apollo 16, 1972, John Young, Charles Duke, Thomas Mattingly
    Apollo 17, 1972, Eugene Cernan, Harrison Schmitt, Ronald Evans

  7. Bollywood and Disney Conspiracy!!! by syousef · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can't you see this is just more proof the moon landings didn't happen!? It's all part of a massive deal between Disney studios that shot the original moon landings and Bollywood. In exchange for their support Bollywood have the rights for Highschool Musical 4: Summer in Mumbai in which the kids all get summer jobs in an Indian call center but struggle to fit in because their names don't need to be westernized. Disney will also be outsourcing the next lunar landings to a Bollywood studio to cut costs. Expect to see moon rocks in the shape of traditional Indian cusine some time early next decade.

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  8. Outsourcing by Renderer+of+Evil · · Score: 3, Funny

    From what I understood is that NASA is now outsourcing its Conspiracy Coverup Unit (CCU) to India. Next thing you'll hear would be how some scientist in Bangalore had discovered previously unseen 1080i footage of JFK assassination.

  9. Calm down, Chandrayaan is safe in Area 51 by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Indian Space Agency is just receiving data that it *thinks* is coming from the moon, and not from a desert in Nevada.

    The space shuttle caught Chandrayaan on its last mission, and brought it back to Earth. The space shuttle carried a giant baseball shortstop's glove fitted to the shuttle's robot arm to perform the catch. The Philadelphia Phillies advised on the project, and were paid in Jim's cheese steaks, as not to leave a financial paper trail.

    Once in Area 51, sinister scientists there had no problem to electronically feed it with bogus data, so Chandrayaan thinks that it has really reached to moon.

    Including, of course, photos of sites on the moon where the fake Apollo landings supposedly took place.

    It all seems pretty logical to me.

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  10. The beauty of conspiracy theories... by Geekenstein · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..is that anything that doesn't fit your theory can be explained away as part of the conspiracy. The nutters will continue to be nutty.

  11. Re:"All the conspiracy theories" ? by afaik_ianal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Proof: I hate that word.

    Intellectuals don't seek proof, they seek evidence. We sought it, and we received plenty. Sure, the footage could conceivably have been faked, but the mirrors, which are still testable today, could not have been unless they were already there, or they placed them there later. There are countless other pieces of evidence, making it hard to reach any other conclusion. The only alternative hypotheses that are supported by all of the evidence are so far fetched that the question becomes a no-brainer.

    Conspiracy theorists seek proof because there is no such thing. They don't want to come to the logical conclusion, so they ignore the evidence, and require this thing you call "proof". You can't "prove" to someone that you exist (you might just be a figment of their imagination); all you can do is provide evidence, and let them decide on the strength of that evidence. If you can't prove something as obvious as your existence, then what hope do you have of proving something happened yesterday, or 40 years ago?

    Even mathematical proof is meaningless in the absence of axioms, so can we please stop using that word?

  12. Its all about the resolution by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Informative

    Chandrayaan's camera only has a resolution of 5M - a LEM descent stage barely fills a pixel. One more anonymous dot among many, neither ammunition for or against conspiracy nutters.

    Anyhow, if you bother to read TFA you'll find they had a much more prosaic purpose - to compare the readings from their instruments to the known regolith and rock at the landing sites in order to check their calibration.