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Halo 3 Criticized In Murder Conviction

oldwindways writes "An Ohio teen was found guilty of murdering his mother and shooting his father in the head after they took away his copy of Halo 3. One has to wonder if this is going to have any effect on the games industry. Clearly, the AP thought they could stir up something controversial by asking the IP owner for a statement: 'Microsoft, which owns the intellectual property for the game, declined to comment beyond a statement saying: "We are aware of the situation and it is a tragic case."' I suppose the good news is they did not accept his insanity plea, so no one can claim that Halo 3 drove him insane. Even so, I don't think anything good can come out of this for gamers." Unfortunately, it seems somebody can claim that the game was a contributing factor; the judge who presided over this case said he believes that the 17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever." GamePolitics has further details from the judge's statement. It doesn't help that the boy's lawyers used video game addiction as a defense.

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  1. Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a game. by dangitman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    he believes that the 17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

    If someone as old as 17 doesn't understand this basic fact of life, then there's obviously something wrong that has nothing to do with the video game.

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  2. Or... by Spad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "An Ohio teen was found guilty of murdering his mother and shooting his father in the head after they took away his [thing that he really liked]"

    If he had a caffeine addiction and his parents took away his Coke would that mean that it was the fault of the Coke that he murdered them?

  3. Spawn point by Mushdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

    The Spawn Point defence should be filed along with the Chewbacca defence in the big book of crazy law.

    1. Re:Spawn point by hobbit · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd bet my life on it.

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  4. Anime: more educational than games by Shin-LaC · · Score: 5, Funny

    The judge who presided over this case said he believes that the 17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

    I can see why playing Halo (or, indeed, most games, with the notable exception of NetHack) might make you believe that. If only he had watched anime instead, he would have been taught the cruel reality of murder.

  5. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know it's flamebaiting to speak about people respawning millenia ago.

  6. The judge's statement by Anonymusing · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTA:

    "The Court must enter a finding of guilty on the counts set forth in the indictment. That being said, it's my firm belief as a human being - and not as a jurist - that Daniel does suffer from a serious defect of the mind.

    "This Court's opinion is that we don't know enough about these video games. In this particular case, not so much the violence of the game because I believe in the Halo 3, what it amounts to is a contest to see who can shoot the most aliens who attack.

    "It's my firm belief that after a while the same physiological responses occur that occur in the ingestion of some drugs. And I believe that an addiction to these games can do the same thing. The dopamine surge, the stimulation of the nucleus accumbens - the same as an addiction. Such that when you stop, your brain won't stand for it.

    "The other dangerous thing about these games, in my opinion, is that when these changes occur, they occur in an environment that is delusional. Because you can shoot these aliens, and they're there again the next day. You have to shoot them again. And I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

    Another article notes...

    During the first day of testimony on Monday, his father, the Rev. Mark Petric, said his son had apologized to him and he has forgiven Daniel, who was 16 at the time of the shootings. The elder Petric told Lorain County Common Pleas Judge James Burge, who is hearing the case instead of a jury, that Daniel told him and his wife, Sue Petric, to close their eyes because he had a surprise for them. According to prosecutors, Daniel Petric then shot both of his parents, killing Sue Petric and wounding Mark Petric. When he came to a few moments later, Mark Petric said, he saw that his wife wasn't moving, and Daniel was trying to place a 9 mm handgun in his hand.

    So the son was trying to frame the father for murdering the mother. Seems to indicate that he knew death was permanent...

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  7. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by dhavleak · · Score: 5, Funny

    he believes that the 17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

    If someone as old as 17 doesn't understand this basic fact of life, then there's obviously something wrong that has nothing to do with the video game.

    Clearly Halo 3 is at fault. If they had some non-respawning game types this would never have happened...

  8. he is a sociopath, or worst by aepervius · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem here is clearly the teen which is a sociopath, not the fact he played halo 3. It was halo 3 his parent withdrew, but it could have been a red toy car, or whatever he was using at that time. Once you are in your teen you are supposed to be able to separate fantasy to reality, and to know that death is definitive. If you don't even know or realize that, then you clearly have a mental problem. The guy was 15 at the time he shot his parents.

    Miscellaneous quotes : (http://news.aol.com/article/ohio-teen-killed-mom-over-video-game/302589)
    Petric may have been addicted, but the evidence also showed he planned the crime for weeks, said Burge, who found the teenager guilty of aggravated murder, attempted aggravated murder and other charges.

    Deputy prosecuting attorney Anthony Cillo argued during the trial that the teenager had planned to make it appear to be a murder-suicide by putting the gun in his father's hand.

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  9. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by El+Lobo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, there will always be idiotic trials. This reminds me of the infamous Judas Priest trial where "experts" tried to present evidence that an album by the heavy metal band Judas Priest contained subliminal messages that drove two youngmen to suicide.

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  10. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If someone as old as 17 doesn't understand this basic fact of life, then there's obviously something wrong that has nothing to do with the video game.

    Obviously. Nobody is arguing that completely normal people would go postal by playing Halo 3. If I said "All you people on slashdot are a wsate of oxygen and should go kill yourself" there won't be mass suicides, but someone already suicidal really sitting on the fence just might. So here we got a borderline psychotic, serious trouble separating famtasy from reality and he's on the fence. Was Halo 3 the push? How much should you pad the world to make sure he doesn't get a push? Or is it him, if anyone had realized how serious his issues are, that should have been put in a padded room? There's a line somewhere there, but I think what 99%+ of the population handles well should never be outlawed. The rest is just triggering some secret freak-out button that can't really be helped. Or rather, those people should be helped if possible.

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  11. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by Anonymusing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Notably, the boy's father is a minister. The church has not updated the web site, obviously.

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  12. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by Bangz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Games aren't meant to be simulations, they're meant to be fun.

  13. Re:guns by couchslug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    About a third of murders don't involve firearms. Areas with widespread legal firearms ownership tend to have less crime than areas with severe gun restrictions. Finally, if someone is that nuts, operating an axe, shovel, hatchet or any number of other hand tools is no great obstacle.

    Lizzie Borden was just a chick, but did a "hatchet job" quite smartly (and beat the rap too).

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  14. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    This shall be the last post you hear from me, you insensitive clod!

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  15. Inverted logic ? by Zoxed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So yet me see:
    - teenager plays Halo 3 for weeks/months/years: does not kill anyone.
    - same teenager *stops* playing said game for 1 day: shoots both parents.

    So does that mean that playing the game *stopped* him killing real people ?

  16. One of these things is not like the others... by Dutchmaan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The father, a minister, had a 9mm handgun that the son, who played video games, used as the tool for his action.

    So lets see.

    Religion.
    Guns.
    Video Games.

    Which one is not enshrined in U.S. culture and will therefore be blamed.

    1. Re:One of these things is not like the others... by calmofthestorm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh come on, it was only 9mm. He must be one of the nonviolent priests or he'd have a fully automatic:-)

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  17. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He killed his mother and shot his father in the head. the father survived.

    Daniel's plan was originally to make it look like a murder-suicide, by leaving the gun in his father's hand. After the shooting, Mark Petric said his son put the gun in his hand while saying, "Hey Dad, here's your gun. Take it."

    The outrage is from people who are pissed that a manipulative evil piece of shit is trying to avoid a harsher punishment by blaming a hobby which most people here enjoy.
    His first plan to avoid getting punished didn't work out so well but a judge seems to have bought into the "it was the videogames fault!",partly at least.

  18. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by hobbit · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd warrant, then, that the kid's probably had as much exposure to the Old Testament as he has to Halo 3. Personally, I'm not in favour of banning either, but if anything...

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  19. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by Archimagus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever." I know it has been quoted already, but seriously? I mean come on. My 5 year old son understands the fact that death is forever. And he has been playing games since he was old enough to hold a controller. Hell, I taught him how to snipe the pilots out of helicopters in Mercenaries when he was two. Also, why did the parents take the game away from the kid? My guess would be some kind of violent activity and they were taking his games away as punishment. The kid most likely had violent tendencies anyway.

  20. Re:Sure, 17 year-olds believe this because of a ga by acidreverb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From this article:
    "According to prosectors, Petric, 16 at the time of the shooting, was forbidden to buy Halo 3 by his parents, Mark and Susan Petric. The teen snuck out to purchase the game anyway, and was caught by his parents upon his return. The game was locked up in Mark's lockbox, along with a 9mm handgun."

    So no, a history of violence wasn't mentioned in the articles I have seen so far. However, it also says he didn't have a copy of the game.

    From the same article:
    "Lawyers for the accused delivered a brief statement at the opening of the trial, explaining that their client had be under a large amount of stress after being homebound for a year due to a snowboarding accident with nothing to do but watch television and play video games."

    So, presumably he hadn't been playing the game elsewhere.

    But don't worry...
    "Dad, I'm so sorry for what I did to Mom, to you and to the family," Daniel Petric said, according to his father. "I'm so glad you are alive."
    "You're my son," Mark Petric responded. "You're my boy."
    Dad forgives him...