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Belkin's Amazon Rep Paying For Fake Online Reviews

remove office writes "I recently discovered that Belkin's lead online sales rep, Michael Bayard, has been secretly paying internet users to review his company's products favorably on Amazon.com and other websites like Newegg, whether or not they've ever used the devices. Bayard instructed the people he was paying to 'Write as if you own the product and are using it... Mark any other negative reviews as "not helpful" once you post yours.' Ironically, he was using Amazon's own Mechanical Turk service to hire his fraudsters. Did he honestly think he wouldn't get caught? Are Slashdotters aware of other examples of other such blatant astroturfing on behalf of a large tech company like Belkin?"

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  1. Does this come as a surprise? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm more surprised that there aren't more companies caught doing this. Its like being surprised that a professional was using hGH or 'roids.

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  2. Re:Belkin are dodgy by blang · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, I don't have much of their stuff but I think what I have is ok stuff. Probably just a matter of a grossly overreaching marketing department. Some idiot fatass willing to eat babies to get his bonus.

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  3. Well Duh by speedlaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone with a brain who has checked out any product online, be it cars, computers or anything, finds a user group or ten with reviews. Some reviewers have used the product. Some reviewers have not. There is always "this is the bestest thing in the whole world" review. And there is the "this is the largest POS known" review. You toss the lovefest, and toss the POS review. Trust the middle. If all the reviewers seem happy, then it's probably good. If they all hate, then not so much. You are your own editor.

    1. Re:Well Duh by LingNoi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's not how I roll...

      I look for the worse review possible, extract why the review thought it was bad and then judge whether I find that particular thing worthy of caring about.

      However I must admit this doesn't always work, for example I was reviewing headphones and there was an elitist audio expert which marked them down. I bought them anyway and they're really good, I really can't understand why he'd marked them down for the quality.

  4. Re:Jeez by noidentity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    [Belkin's] signal strength was way better than other adapters

    Reported signal strength?

  5. Astroturfing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Astroturfing is an extremely harmful practice to companies in the long run. I remember a couple of particular travel companies on a site I frequent which did this. The companies themselves had a pretty decent reputation, but a few members were just a little bit too enthusiastic about recommending them, and were outed after a couple of months. Any goodwill the company had instantly collapsed, and any time a new traveler asked for advice relating to these companies, they were told to avoid them because of their marketing practices.

    Somewhat strangely, it's actually the successful astroturfing campaigns that do the most damage in the long run. There's thousands of obvious attempts each year which immediately get spotted, and everyone nearly immediately forgets about them. But the few times it flies under the radar and is "trusted", the loss of that trust upon discovery is total and final, and it'll take years for the company to recover (if they ever do).

  6. Re:What a tard by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Criminals get dumber and dumber.

    If he was not such a retard he'd just sign up with bogus accounts and write the reviews himself, from a public library terminal.

    Actually I think they are getting smarter and smarter.

    It's just the ones that don't learn that get caught.

  7. Re:Microsoft via Digg.com by danknight · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Attention Microsoft and Belkin, I currently have 3 (count 'em! ) Three MOD POINTS, and I am not afraid to use them to your favor for the right price !

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  8. Re:Bribes to remove bad reviews by jcnnghm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's not a bribe, it's called customer service. The customer was dissatisfied, so the company took measures to rectify the situation. I would be happy to deal with a seller that acted in such a way.

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  9. DIdn't buy it? Then you can't review it. by arizonagroovejet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are a lot of reviews on Amazon and other retail sites written by people who clearly do not own the product. A lot of reviews are written by people who don't understand the concept of a review. You can find reviews for things which aren't even available to buy yet but Amazon have created a product page for. Seems to me there's a very easy to get rid of reviews people are being paid to write or are just idiots - sites should only allow people to post reviews for products which they have actually bought from that site. It would be easy enough to implement, just check against the would be reviewer's order history. Sure there would be a lot less reviews, but the ones that do get posted will worth something. Quality, not quantity.

  10. Re:'can get to' ?? by zmollusc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What? You thought magazines were objective and impartial?

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  11. Re:Has there been a backlasth? by orielbean · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wait, you mean the same AMAZON who is making money from Belkin's products being sold on their site? Good luck with that. The counter-astroturf would be more useful and more likely.

  12. Re:Doctors by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except huge swaths of doctors are *not* in good health at all. In the "Physician, Heal Thyself", department, they get tricked by HMO politics and overwork, sometimes trashing their diet, too fatigued to exercise, and as mentioned elsewhere, possibly even living on borrowed time just trying to keep going. One of my doctors was in this category.

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  13. When aren't good reviews fake? by Haydon+Jurai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this really news?? Most positive product review are sappy BS about the product being the best thing since sliced bread or the internet, with very little insightful commentary. That leads me to believe they're always fake. I consider product reviews a form of advertising. And since most consumers, who are already easily influenced (such as by TV commercials and other mass advertising) won't bother looking for articles about fake reviews, the fake reviews will do their job, and convince people to buy the product. If you really want to find out about a product, you can dig through all the BS to find a review with insightful commentary (and then do some cross reference to verify the claims), but that can be difficult. I find it more helpful to read all the negative reviews of a seller or product. If the negative reviews don't paint a horrible picture, you can use them to weigh the product's or service's faults against its claimed benefits.