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Soyuz 4/5 Made History 40 Years Ago Today

dj writes in with a reminder that forty years ago, on January 16, 1969, the two Russian spacecraft Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 5 carried out the first docking between two manned spacecraft and transfer of crew between the craft. Wired's piece gives a gripping account of "one of the roughest re-entries in the history of space flight": "Soyuz 5's service module failed to detach at retrofire, causing the vehicle to assume an aerodynamic position that left the heat shield pointed the wrong way as it re-entered the atmosphere. The only thing standing between Volynov and a fiery death was the command module's thin hatch cover. The interior of Volynov's capsule filled with noxious fumes as the gaskets sealing the hatch started to burn, and it got very hot in there (which, a short time later was something he probably missed). ... But wait. There's more."

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  1. Bonus Parts? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Let me see if I got this strait: the return capsule accidentally got stuck to part of the ship it was docked to, and took the part with it on the way down, but this extra part cause the capsule to face the wrong way, using the wrong side as the "heat shield", which meant the astronaut was about to be cooked to death.

    But the vibration and heat of a rough re-entry jiggled or melted the extra part away, setting the capsule free and allowing it to face the proper direction. (Although the rough ride caused other landing problems as a result.)
           

    1. Re:Bonus Parts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Good enough. Soyuz, Gemini and Mercury capsules were designed so that they are stable in aerodynamic flight when the heat shield is pointing in the direction of travel. So even if you can't see what orientation you are in, once the capsule 'feels' the atmosphere, it will turn around on its own to face the correct direction.

      The same thing happened recently on the TMA-11 return, where the SM got hung up and didn't detach for some time.

      http://www.spacetoday.net/Summary/4170

    2. Re:Bonus Parts? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 2, Informative

      Note that this is hardly the only time this happened, in fact it happened on Soyuz TMA-11 last year, and to a fair number of the Vostok/Voskhod flights before it. It's a source of concern for the ISS return spacecraft.

                Brett

  2. Re:The suspense! by stonedcat · · Score: 2, Informative

    It can't be helped. The actual article uses this statement three times...

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  3. Re:"Soyuz 4/5 Made History 40 Years Ago Today" by orzetto · · Score: 3, Informative

    That would be soyuzy .

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  4. Re:Moral of the story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Remember that the Apollo 9 mission flew one month before this one. That mission was the first manned mission to orbit the moon.

    That was Apollo 8-- Apollo 9 tested the LEM out in earth orbit, which was a pretty exciting mission itself even though it didn't happen at the moon.

  5. Re:He came from outer space by Detritus · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's much better than Voskhod 2, which also landed off-course in the Urals in similar circumstances, and was surrounded by hungry wolves.

    http://www.astronautix.com/flights/voskhod2.htm

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  6. Re:Moral of the story by lysergic.acid · · Score: 4, Informative

    actually, Florida extends further south than Texas.

    -Houston, Texas is located at 294546N
    -Merritt Island, Florida is located at 282128N

    also, the Saturn V rockets were designed & built at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, which is a heck of a lot closer to Florida than to Texas. and it should also be noted that just because Johnson Space Center is the Mission Control of all manned space flights in the U.S. does not mean all manned space missions take off from Houston. the Apollo 11 mission was actually launched from Kennedy Space Center.

  7. Re:Nothing like Soviet Engineering by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 1, Informative

    That's right..as opposed to oh so superior American Engineering that results in lots of good TV coverage of shuttles blowing up and burning up every few years.

    Yes, as opposed to how many non-televised Soviet space related accidents? Including the one that killed 126 people in 1960.

    http://www.leechvideo.com/video/view2470454.html

  8. Re:Nothing like Soviet Engineering by lysergic.acid · · Score: 4, Informative

    yea, that was 1960. and the Nedelin disaster was an ICBM test; it was not space-related.

    so far NASA astronauts have a mortality rate of 4.1% (17 deaths), whereas only 4 Russian cosmonauts have died, which is 0.9% of all the cosmonauts launched.

  9. Re:Moral of the story by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sigh. The Russians were planning MIR-2.. it was canceled, what with the fall of the Soviet Union and all. Bush (Sr)'s justification for the "Agreement between the United States of America and the Russian Federation Concerning Cooperation in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space for Peaceful Purposes" was well documented at the time. With his departure and the arrival of Gore and Clinton, the reasoning was spelled out again.

    I'm repeating the fact that water is wet, you're saying I'm "making attacks on people's ignorance".

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  10. True meaning of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world countries by mhalagan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Today's meaning of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world countries is vastly different from the original meaning. Originally 1st world countries were those which were democratic. 2nd world countries were communist, and everyone else fell into the 3rd world category.

  11. Re:Nothing like Soviet Engineering by jd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Quite likely. If you look at "traditional" engineering techniques, you start with a specification which you then implement. A fault-tolerant specification implemented such that those faults are themselves unlikely would logically be superior to one that is fault-tolerant but liable to suffer faults or a system in which faults are unlikely but catastrophic.

    Alternatively, go in the opposite direction. Design something in such a way that components have few opportunities to fail, but then implement them to be fault-tolerant should that happen.

    On a more trivial level, look at materials. Iron is ok as a building material but it's heavy and has a much lower critical temperature at which it will fail than, say, some of NASA's high-temperature ceramics. Logically, a Soyuz capsule that replaced some of the ablative heat-shield with the Shuttle's thermal skin would be lighter (making it less costly to launch) and more heat-resistant (making it safer in the event of too steep a re-entry).

    I suspect that the fuel used by the Russian rockets is also less stable than some of the liquid and hybrid fuels used in the US. The US has the means to develop fuels that behave in a highly predictable and controlled manner, whereas the Russians are likely using fuels that might do anything short of tap-dance. It's entirely possible that a Russian launcher converted to use US fuels would be more reliable than either country has produced independently.

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  12. Re:He came from outer space by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2, Informative

    actually very far - ussr was the largest country in the world. you could get a flight over 8 time zones (and this without any passport or hassle at the check in).

    internal ids are pretty common in europe (the system is not much different) and european police asks for them way more often than soviet militia did it back then.

    you have to get some perspective. while the ussr looked quite totalitarian some decades ago, comparing it to modern europe and usa creates a very different picture. in some ways soviet people were more free than western people are now.

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