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Gaming Netflix Ratings?

Nom du Keyboard writes "Not for the first time, I've noticed a new film that hasn't yet even reached the theaters, yet has hundreds of positive votes and/or reviews recorded on Netflix. This time the movie is Inkheart. For a movie that doesn't even hit the theaters until January 23, it already has 428 votes and a rating of 4.3 (out of 5) on Netflix. Seems more than a bit fraudulent to me. Also, it has a review that doesn't even review the movie, but instead says the books are great, therefore the movie should be too. Does the word 'shills' come to mind? With millions spent to promote a movie, are a few hundred of that going to phony voters? Or have that many people actually seen the film and just can't wait to rush home and log onto Netflix to vote? Just what is Netflix's responsibility here to provide honest ratings?"

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  1. Not released? by Seriph · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe not released yet in the US, but there is a world beyond the US borders and the film has been released places there. It's actually quite a good film based on an interesting idea.

    1. Re:Not released? by aitikin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Seriph brings up a perfect point. IMDB seems to back that information up fairly well.

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    2. Re:Not released? by retyurecvb · · Score: 5, Informative

      Doesn't Netflix only service the U.S. though?

    3. Re:Not released? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It has been in German cinemas for over a month.

    4. Re:Not released? by Monsieur_F · · Score: 5, Informative

      From imdb
      Release dates for Inkheart (2008)
      Country : Date
      Germany : 11 December 2008
      UK : 12 December 2008
      Brazil : 25 December 2008
      Iceland : 26 December 2008

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    5. Re:Not released? by indigest · · Score: 2, Informative

      Netflix serves the US only. Our equivalent in the UK is lovefilm.com.

    6. Re:Not released? by TheKidWho · · Score: 4, Informative

      Probablly those domestic people who might have taken a trip abroad or gone on an adventure to this place called the pirate bay.

      YARRR

    7. Re:Not released? by SpinningCone · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the case of inkheart yes this was already released and could potentially get legit reviews. however Terminator: Salvation has not been released and with a target date of May/June i would be surprised if there was even a screener available. yet despite this there are plenty of positive votes.

    8. Re:Not released? by Sopor42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Did you actually look?

      A curosry search brought no results for the movie Inkheart on TBP or Mininova...

      Not saying the torrent isn't out there somewhere, but it's not on the big ones yet.

  2. already out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    kdawson is a drama queen.

    Release:
    Germany 11 December 2008
    UK 12 December 2008
    Brazil 25 December 2008
    Iceland 26 December 2008

  3. Re:Not to disagree with your conspiracy... by Guido+del+Confuso · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not only this, but often times the makers of a film will show it to people before it is even finished. This could be anything from friends and business associates of the filmmakers (such screenings can number into the hundreds of people) to recruited audience test screenings (also often several hundred people). These people see the movie long before it comes out, and most likely not in its final form. Also, after a movie is completed it is sometimes sent around for audience reaction before it is picked up distribution. Of course, if the film plays at a film festival, that's hundreds or thousands of people watching it before it is released in theaters. So a few hundred people rating a movie before it's officially "out" isn't that strange.

    And remember, a significant portion of the people who do watch the movie before it comes out are friends and family of the crew, who aren't exactly impartial. That may explain why the ratings skew high.

  4. Not only that, but... by hummassa · · Score: 5, Informative

    Inkheart is in the theatres here in Brasil for the last three weeks.
    Maybe it just didn't hit the theatres in the OP's city/state/country??

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    1. Re:Not only that, but... by Tirhakah · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's been out in the UK too, since I think mid-December. Not surprising that it should have at least some reviews already then...

  5. Re:King Kung Fu by SJ2000 · · Score: 1, Informative

    five tenths of a point

    Why not just say half a point?

  6. Re:Not to disagree with your conspiracy... by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got in on something similar to this a few years ago, and after the movie ended, we were given tickets to see another pre-screening the next week. As long as we kept going, we got to see free movies every week before they came out (usually only a week or so ahead of time, though). Unfortunately, we didn't really want to see most of the movies they were showing, so we'd end up giving the tickets away, and eventually someone didn't go (or didn't give us the tickets for the next week).

    On the other hand, it's not uncommon for people that work in the industry to have access to copies of the film, either, and it definitely gets out to their friends and family, even if they simply borrow it.

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  7. Re:behold by corsec67 · · Score: 5, Informative

    dd/mm/yy

    That is the worst way to write dates. You can't tell 2010 and 1910 apart, and if you try to sort a bunch of files named by date, in your scheme the dates are all mixed up.

    You want big-endian, and 4 digit years:

    YYYY/MM/DD.

    The ISO agrees

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  8. Re:Not to disagree with your conspiracy... by joocemann · · Score: 3, Informative

    But it isn't rare for there to be advanced screenings of a movie a week or two in advance of the public release date.

    I wonder if we'll ever see movie cinemas with terminals or similar at them that let you rate a movie as you walk out after seeing it.

    I went to google.com

    Typed in "inkheart screener"

    The very first choice at the top is a bit-torrent search engine.

    The page lists a number of different torrents of this movie already being available from screeners and cam rips, etc.
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    I think it is safe to say that thousands of people have already seen it by now.

  9. Re:Not idiotic by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Really? You are honestly trying to claim that it isn't stupid to rate a movie as being good even when you have not seen it? Really?