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Pandora Trying Out Invasive Commercial Breaks

Nathan Halverson writes "The popular online radio service Pandora.com has added brief commercial interruptions to its service. Pandora says this is a trial and is targeted to a subset of listeners at this point. In one case, a brief ad for the Fox TV show 'Lie To Me' interrupted the music stream for about 15 seconds after ten songs had initially played, and the same commercial interrupted 22 songs later. 'But [Pandora's] founder promised the site will never carry as many audio ads as broadcast radio, despite the fact it pays substantially higher royalty fees to the recording industry.'"

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  1. We need a spam filter for radio by captainpanic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be willing to pay money for any program that filters out adds (without making too many mistakes).
    I've always wondered why this doesn't exist for TV.
    And I wondered what you should play during the adds... a random mp3 from your computer perhaps?

    Alternatively, you can also switch to another station :D

    1. Re:We need a spam filter for radio by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd be willing to pay money for any program that filters out adds (without making too many mistakes). I've always wondered why this doesn't exist for TV.

      Isn't that what TiVo is for?

    2. Re:We need a spam filter for radio by shark72 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Rather than looking for a third party to pay for the service of filtering Pandora ads for you, why not just subscribe to Pandora? It's $36 a year. That's $3 a month. You can afford it.

      Sadly, the tone of many of the posts so far is that Pandora is now evil. That's really quite sad. They've been providing you a free service for years, while absorbing the cost of broadcast royalties.

      I've been a Pandora subscriber for a while. Not so I'd get anything out of it (but as a bonus, I'm not hearing the ads), but because I believe in what they do and because they've helped me find a lot of great music.

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  2. better than the alternative by wjh31 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    isnt that invasive, on seeing 'invasive' i imagined comming in in the middle of a song, the title is poorly worded. Plus id much rather hear a few adverts than pay money, ideally neither, but if high royalties means one advert per ten songs (15s advert per 10 2.5min songs is only one 1% advert time) then id rather that than have it disapear.

    However, If its the same advert over and over, that will get tedious, ive played a few free versions of games that have been ad sponsored, and to have the same advert over and over is just annoying.

  3. They will be replaced... by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Internet shaped them, the Internet can break them. Look at what happened to Napster.

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    1. Re:They will be replaced... by thermian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What, so internet only media companies shouldn't be allowed to make a profit? Seriously?

      You need to revise your ideas I think. If all you want is good quality free services that don't advertise, you're going to have to do them yourself, because no-one else will.
      Companies that don't make a profit become one of two things, dead companies, or slowly degrading services that then get bought by larger companies.
      If the latter its rare that the original appeal survives the process.
      Twitter is a good example. They have no advertising, make no profits from their customers, and have millions of users. How long do you think Twitters going to last in its current form? I'd give it less than a year.

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  4. Once upon a time, children.... by macraig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me tell you a fictional bedtime story, kids. Once upon a time there were these cable TV services that were popular because they had no commercials! Then, like an evil virus, commercials started slowly creeping in, so slowly people didn't notice the prick of the blade at first....

  5. Headline over the top by bytesex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These commercial breaks are not 'invasive'. Somebody groping you on the street on your way to work is invasive. You can still choose not to listen to web radio.

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  6. Re:Hulu does this and everybody doesn't mind that. by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Other 'free' services have been doing it for ages, most notably Hulu.com

    I know this is the internet we're talking about, but Hulu went live ~1.5 years ago and has only been accessible to the general public for less than a year (March 12, 2008). They haven't been doing anything "for ages".

  7. Re:*Sigh* I hate advertising by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The fundamental problem with all of this is that Pandora is advertising. The Music Labels get a service which is not super-trivial for you to download music from (by no means impossible) so that you can sample their music - since Pandora won't just let you listen to it how you want when you want, you may be compelled to buy it. Now they want to add commercials for shit I'm not listening to as well? If companies want to advertise to me on Pandora they can pay to have their songs ranked up, so that I hear them more. Instead, I have to say goodbye to Pandora at a time when I'm considering actually having enough bandwidth to use it. But since there are many non-commercial internet radio options, I guess I'll use one of those instead. Station ID bumpers are annoying enough when I'm in a groove, commercials are simply unacceptable to me. (I'm one of those annoying "I don't watch TV" fucks, but even when I did, I muted all commercials.)

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  8. Spotify does this too. by Skrynkelberg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It plays an add every ten songs or so. For me, it is no big deal, but in case you should think so, there is also an add-free subscription option for 99 SEK ($12) a month.

  9. Re:Whatever, it's a great service by Nursie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >Evidently, kids (who are the primary consumers of music) tend to tune out things they know are ads.

    Actually, I think pretty much all of us that have grown up with pervasive advertising have an internal trip switch these days. It's a sad fact, but the way to keep sane in the modern (urban) environment is to selectively ignore most of the world around you.

    Advertisers look for ever more invasive ways to get our attention, and then wonder why advertising has less and less effect. it's because we hate you and have learned to ignore you to the extent we don't even realise you're there half the time.

  10. Re:Whatever, it's a great service by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually, I think pretty much all of us that have grown up with pervasive advertising have an internal trip switch these days. It's a sad fact, but the way to keep sane in the modern (urban) environment is to selectively ignore most of the world around you.

    Advertisers look for ever more invasive ways to get our attention, and then wonder why advertising has less and less effect. it's because we hate you and have learned to ignore you to the extent we don't even realise you're there half the time.


    You only believe that because they told you to. Advertisers fill your head with answers to questions you never asked, then when you are called on to make a decision and you're too lazy to do research or too tired to really think about what you want, you use the answers they gave you as your own.

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  11. So? by Accursed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's their service, and they need to recoup costs for their bandwidth somehow. Really, this whole "ads are bad, everything should be free and beautiful" thing is getting old. Reality doesn't work like that.