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Obama To Launch Website For Tracking Tax Expenditures

internationalflights tips news that Barack Obama, in his first weekly address as President, has mentioned plans to set up a website for tracking "how and where we spend taxpayer dollars." Details about the website, Recovery.gov, are available within the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (PDF). The website "shall provide data on relevant economic, financial, grant, and contract information in user-friendly visual presentations to enhance public awareness of the use funds made available in this Act," and will also "provide a means for the public to give feedback on the performance of contracts awarded for purposes of carrying out this Act." The site itself currently contains a placeholder until the passage of the Act.

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  1. It freaks me out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It freaks me out how much Obama's doing right. It's almost as if I've been elected president, except he seems to waste less time on slashdot and actually gets things done.

    1. Re:It freaks me out... by RootWind · · Score: 4, Informative

      You might want to revisit that story. Somewhere a long the way, the Obama administration putting a stay on all pending cases (including wiretapping) somehow means he "supports" warrantless wiretapping. You might notice Obama has yet to get his Attorney General pick confirmed. So Obama has yet to actually support warrantless wiretapping. Whether he will or will not will be a story for another day.

    2. Re:It freaks me out... by Neoprofin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Like issuing that executive order on lobbyists to much fan fair and then quietly asking for an exception the next day?

      I like this one though, hopefully it'll be as good in practice as it is in theory.

  2. Will it be a Web2.0 site? by VampireByte · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can we post comments, click on a little thumbs up/down button, have logins where we set up a profile and can choose what picture displays next to our comments (anime schoolgirl, picture of our cat, Karl Marx, Milton Friedman, etc.), connect to our friends (OMG can you believe they won't be funding our ipod museum WTF!!!), blog about what we think about how our money was spent on researching the impact improving a bridge will have on the local sewer rat population...

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    1. Re:Will it be a Web2.0 site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I dont think this is funny. I think its appropriate. Why not? Why are your comments any more important than someone who wants an ipod museum? Did you participate in change.gov? hunbdreds of thousands did, with moderating and voting up and voting down. It brought issues forward, started discussions and got responses.

      Democracy is being responsible to the people. That is a feature, not a bug.

  3. Destined to the "ungratifying"? by smchris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thought might be good. But what percentage of our taxes will be listed as "other" for the NSA, CIA, classified Defense, State and God knows what?

    On the other hand, if Americans realize how much is "other", it could be an eye-opener. People will have more to complain about than welfare mothers and mass transit.

    1. Re:Destined to the "ungratifying"? by conureman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The people who complain about "welfare mothers and mass transit" will continue to complain about whatever their leaders tell them that the "problem" is. They are not capable of realization.

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    2. Re:Destined to the "ungratifying"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And yet, there are those who actually need TEMPORARY help (such as me, a few years ago, when I had a debilitating condition that precluded work until I could get treated) that get turned down because I wasn't a slut with 8 kids or a lazy scumbag. I paid my fucking tax dollars into the system and yet, they weren't willing to help me with a medical bill and food for a month; not even food stamps.

      I managed to survive, but I learned a valuable lesson: government won't help those who can't help themselves at the moment, but will be able to eventually. You have to be a true loser for them to even talk to you.

      So now I claim as much as possible to avoid having my tax dollars from becoming an interest-free loan for a year, for the government to blow at their discretion. And I now vote Republican whenever I discover a true one running for office (as rare as that is these days).

    3. Re:Destined to the "ungratifying"? by upside · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hahaha, as a European I find it amusing how your half-baked, badly implemented safety nets are taken as evidence that there shouldn't be any at all. And we always get flak for being wasteful socialist commies.

      I had to visit a welfare office, too, at one stage. It was embarrasing but helped me get through that bad period. It's not like our system is perfect but I'm grateful and now happily pay my taxes to help others in the same position. It also helps to know that only the absolute minimum is spent on non-productive stuff like defence.

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  4. Technology by crumbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What has surprised me about the Obama campaign was how they used information technology effectively to get their message out. These people get it. This administration understands that the majority of the U.S. population has access to the internet, has become relatively informed about the issues and wants to be kept in the loop with respect to governmental decision making. Not to be partisan, but this is quite a change from the previous administration, who made few efforts to directly connect with the average voter.

  5. Re:Defeat U.S. Imperialism! by WindowlessView · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heh. Where do you nutcases come from, anyway?

    Fox News: Will manufacture enemies for food and viewers.

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  6. Re:But he is still our ruler by v1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although congress decides where it's spent, and the people elect the senators, it doesn't necessarily mean your vote matters a lot in the decision. The current legislative process is so hopelessly bogged down that most spending bills get rubber stamped. Who has time to read through several 800 page bills a week looking for one or two lines of pork in fine print, or do research on the 50 different contractors that are being awarded the contracts? You can't really blame them directly.

    I suppose the only two solutions to this problem are (1) to get more senators per state, or (2) to require senators to have a staff of 20 each, whose sole job is to review new bills and provide "cliff notes" for the senators, that catch all the little gotchas that have been hidden.

    The problem is the process itself is fundamentally flawed. It was developed for a country in 1776, not 2009, and it didn't scale well enough. Back then, bills were 10 pages long and discussed single issues. Today, to get anything voted on, considering all the things that crop up as bills, they have to wrap 20 different things into one giant bloated bill, each issue of which itself is incredibly more complicated than an entire bill was in 1800. The system itself needs to be redesigned. It'll be interesting to see is Obama will attempt this. But that's what we need.

    I also think part of it is the senators and their pork. Despite the modern times, they're still looking out for their individual state, and try to work in their own pork at any opportunity. So to pass an important bill, committees have to stuff in pork for important senators to get their vote, because they're being greedy. Bills that are very popular with the public get really stuffed to the gills because who wants their opponent's political ad next year to say you voted against it? We've seen several cases where a bill that seemed like common sense was having a really hard time making it through the house or senate, and if you read into it, it's because it was so incredibly porked that a lot of senators were doing the right thing, saying "no, that's completely unreasonable". If you follow those threads, they sample the senators before the actual vote, and will slowly trim out the pork until they think it will pass. Or it fails, gets thrown back to committee, where more pork negotiations take place. It seems that very little discussion takes place regarding the actual core issue of the bill. That seems to be how a lot of bills go nowadays. Gives democracy a bad name.

    Several times now we've seen those "emergency spending bills" cross over into the next year because they are so incredibly over-porked. "you can't possibly say no to the bill that pays the government for next year? PORK PORK PORK!" But a few times they've held their ground and that's what we get. Absolutely disgusting.

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  7. You almost didn't elect this man because... by Mex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... he didn't wear a USA flag lapel pin. I can only imagine how 4 years of McCain would've been different.

  8. Re:But he is still our ruler by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    PORK PORK PORK!

    The Swedish Chef Goes to Washington.
    From what I see on C-SPAN, Congress often resembles an episode of The Muppet Show.

  9. Re:But he is still our ruler by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can't really blame them directly.

    I can, and I do. The processes are in place because they put them there. They don't do anything about it because it serves their personal interest in maintaining power.

    If a bill is so large and the schedules so grueling that you can't read and understand what's in them before the vote, then you automatically vote against them. That would have solved one of the problems with the federal (and most state) government which is that there are simply too many laws.

    "Pork" is just a euphemism for corruption, and corruption is a huge problem. When you have huge sums of money you can influence, corruption will always be an issue.

    You can say that those corrupt politicians are in charge only because they were voted in by an ignorant electorate. There is some truth in that, but the parties have developed a system that ensures that only those on board with the current corrupt system will ever be voted on. The FEC makes sure that anyone with even a modicum of success with a third party will be charged criminally and fined into bankruptcy. And working from within the parties to change things is very time-consuming and it's extremely difficult to make any process at all.

    Obama stated in his Inauguration speech that "We need to move beyond the debate about the size of government..." Really? Seriously? I think not. The size, reach, and power of the federal government is the root cause of most of the problems.

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  10. Well by coryking · · Score: 4, Interesting

    During the inauguration, I got a text message from them asking if I wanted more info about the event. Once I set "yes", I got messages about the weather, where to go in Washington dc and other local info (even though I wasn't there :-). Once it was over, I got a thankyou email from "President Barack Obama" (info@pic2009.org) thanking me for participating.

    Their campaign sent out all kinds of text messages and emails, I donated to the Red Cross/Hurricane Gustav by text message thanks to them. It was pretty impressive how much they used this new-fanged inter-tube-text-messaging thing. The fact they took that technology and are now using it for "serious business" is a great sign.

    In short, when was the last time you ever got an email or text message from "President George Bush" thanking you for anything?

  11. Re:Explain this by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because some idiots thinks buses is a good idea? Personally I hate them, less so for long trips though. But within a city or as commute transport they suck balls, slower than a bike or more expensive than a car...

    I am an extensive mass transport system user who, every day, benefits from a multi-modal network that involves bus, suburban train and subway system. I use it to not only cover a 40km trip to work each day but also on my off time. In order to gain access to the local mass transport network I need to pay 47 euros for a montly pass. That is 47 euros for unlimited access to multiple modes of transportation. That ends up costing right under 600 euros a year.

    Where exactly can you purchase a car for 600 euros a year? Are you able to run a car for a year with 600 euros worth of gasoline/diesel? Can you even maintain a car (insurance, maintenance, etc...) with 600 euros a year? No, you can't.

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  12. Re:But he is still our ruler by omnipresentbob · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.downsizedc.org/

    "Read the Bills Act" (what I like to call "RTFB Act"): the bill must be read aloud before a full quorum in both the House and the Senate. In addition, 7 days must pass between when a change was made to the bill, and when they can vote on it. Furthermore, the full text of the bill must be made available to the public at least 7 days before a vote, and Congress must give notice on when they will be voting for that bill.

    "One Subject at a Time Act": Self explanatory. Each bill can not address more than one subject at a time.

  13. Re:Regan was wrong by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually it isn't. You don't judge a book by its size, do you? You don't judge how good a computer is based on its size, do you? No.

    Are you serious? You're comparing government to a book or a computer? How about when the book is so big and complicated that no one person can read and understand it? Like, for instance, the federal tax code. That's just one small part of all the laws that you are responsible for knowing and obeying.

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." - Goldwater (?)

    The larger the government is:

    • The more it attracts corrupt people
    • The easier it is to skim and get away with it
    • The more people will try to "get something", and influence the people in power, expanding the incentives of corruption
    • The easier it is for small groups to be provided with huge benefits at the expense of everyone else (check out Farm Subsidies and the Sugar Industry)

    Etc., etc. You can only reduce corruption by limiting the power. You only limit power by limiting size.

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    --- Jerry Garcia
  14. That's a start. by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But what we really need is a version tracking and autentication system for federal legislation to complement it.

    It'd work like this.

    You go onto the President's budget website and discover, say, a a hundred thousand dollar grant to some local company to study the effect of interpretive dance on crop growth. Where did it come from? Well, the budget site tells you it was an earmark in the 2010 transportation bill. How did it get into that?

    Well, you go to Congress's legislation site, and find that the earmark was in the final bill, but not the initial house bill. The earmark was inserted the night before the bill went to a final vote, and the digital signature belongs to an aid in Senator Blowhard's office.

    Transparency isn't just publishing data. It's establishing accountability by making everything traceable.

    The technology to do this isn't exotic. The system resembles the kind of version control systems that even small software development teams can install and put in place. Commercial, off the shelf document and workflow management systems that could handle this for an enterprise the size of Congress have been in existence for at least twenty years, to my personal knowledge.

    It would be amazing if putting such a system in place cost would more than ten or twenty million dollars. Even if it cost a hundred million, how much money would it save, even just in the first year? Could we even put a price on how much less corrupt government would be?

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  15. Re:Excellent! by Xtravar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As much as I hate having our troops all over the world, I hate, even more, the thought of having them deployed here at home so they can be used for domestic roadside checks and other violations of liberty. Just put them in their bases or retire them.

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  16. Or smart politics by coryking · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Going after the bush-era full bore might make a lot of far-left democrats happy, but it would instantly piss off the republicans end the so-called "honeymoon". Speaking up too loudly about FISA right now would burn political capital he needs for more immediate plans (sadly).

    Would you rather have him use up his political capitol on FISA, or something else? He can't do everything--he has to compromise on some things to move forward.

    And if anybody though Obama was gonna go on a witch-hunt after the former administration, you will be dissapointed. He has said numerous times he wants to look forward, not backward.

    Silence is a tacit acceptance of the status quo.

    Or, again, smart politics. Maybe he doesn't want to kick a fuss and burn his political capital over FISA because he figures it will be knocked down in the courts. Maybe if he did kick up a fuss, it would make it even *harder* to remove. Look at the war on drugs--the best way to fix that little problem is to shut the fuck up about it and start funding statewide initiative that chip away at it. The minute Obama starts talking about ending the drug war, the whole process will grind to a halt and become yet another wedge like "gun control" or "abortion".

    Or maybe he agrees with parts of it. Who knows? Politics isn't easy.

    1. Re:Or smart politics by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 4, Funny

      Speaking up too loudly about FISA right now would burn political capital he needs for more immediate plans (sadly).

      I can almost imagine a conversation like this in the Bush whitehouse...

      Bush: "But what about the next president? Can't he come after us for this?"
      Rove: "Not if he's too busy trying to stop the next Great Depression!"
      [Lightbulb illuminates]
      Wolfie: "I'll go tell Madoff's daughter to start banging the SEC's chief regulator."
      Cheney: "I'll start having my congressional lackeys introduce deregulation bills to gut enforcement."
      Paulson: "I'll instruct the Fed chief to start handing out free money."
      All chant: "One Ring to rule them all, and in Darkness bind them..."

  17. That begs a good question by coryking · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How does congress manage documents now? Are they just emailing word documents around as attachments, or is there a modern-ish document management system in place? Is it homebrew, or commercial?

    A quick search turned up that "they" might already be working on a solution to your problems.

    GPO's Federal Digital System (FDsys) is an advanced digital system that will enable GPO to manage Government information in a digital form. FDsys will enable GPO to manage information from all three branches of the U.S. Government...

    ...[Some of the main functions of the system include] Version control -- Multiple versions of published information are common; FDsys will provide version control for government information.

    FDsys

  18. Re:Read the op? by Toe,+The · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hi, I admin the list in question and just saw this. The list is a default installation of Mailman, and I have no idea why it would give that error. If you write to contact(at)metagovernment(dot)org, I will subscribe you manually.

    Also, if you could forward that error message to the above address, I can try to debug (but again, it is a default install as provided by a standard Cpanel host).