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"Nuclear Archaeology" Inspires Replica of Hiroshima's Little Boy

James Cho writes "Through a decade of painstaking reverse engineering, trucker John Coster-Mullen built the first accurate replica of the Hiroshima bomb. His work yielded a new history of the first nukes, 'Atom Bombs: The Top Secret Inside Story of Little Boy and Fat Man,' with historian Robert Norris saying, 'Nothing else in the Manhattan Project literature comes close.' Philip Morrison, one of the physicists who helped invent the bomb, deemed it 'a remarkable job.'"

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  1. How soon until... by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How soon until homeland security shows up accusing him of terrorism?

    1. Re:How soon until... by philspear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If he's built a WORKING replica, I would hope VERY soon!

    2. Re:How soon until... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      According to Amazon, his book was published in 2002. If they were going to lock him up, they've had plenty of time to do so already.

      Of course, it's a good thing for him his name is John Coster-Mullen instead of, oh, say, Ahmed al-Rashad. You can pretty much guarantee that in the latter case, even if all the other circumstances were exactly the same, he'd have been disappeared a long time ago.

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    3. Re:How soon until... by sidb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A working replica would be dangerous and surely illegal. It would not be terrorism unless he used it deliberately to terrorize a group of people. Just because something is bad doesn't make it terrorism.

    4. Re:How soon until... by telchine · · Score: 4, Funny

      If he's built a WORKING replica, I would hope VERY soon!

      Nuclear bombs don't kill people. People kill people. Why shouldn't this guy have a born right to bear nuclear arms? If he wants to defend his property from double-glazing salesman, he should have every right to make use of the second amendment and protect his property!

    5. Re:How soon until... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the law at least in CA says there's $200 fine for detonating one...

    6. Re:How soon until... by Cyberax · · Score: 5, Funny

      But they can make you warm, fuzzy and positively glowing!

    7. Re:How soon until... by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Funny

      You let private citizens have nuclear arms, the next thing you know is they'll sell them to pawn shops and then it's in the hands of gang-bangers nuking 7-Elevens. I've seen the Clerks documentary. I know how these things work.

    8. Re:How soon until... by philspear · · Score: 4, Funny

      It worries me that there is one "insightful" mod on that post.

    9. Re:How soon until... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      insert lame joke about all of us being really, really lucky that Germany didn't have any nukes during WW2.

      I'm not sure that's a joke.

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    10. Re:How soon until... by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 5, Funny

      Never mind that, what about the right to arm nuclear bears? You're just not thinking about the big picture!

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  2. NOT "Reverse Engineering" by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FR1ST PEDANTIC POST

    The guy went through declassified government documents to gather all the information he could find (including design information), and went from there. I don't think this is anything like reverse engineering.

    If he "reverse engineered" the bomb, wouldn't it mean he put the design together based on blast data from known explosions of this particular device?

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    1. Re:NOT "Reverse Engineering" by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Reverse engineering" is a pretty broad phrase. It can mean anything from taking an actual working example of a machine and figuring out how to build it, to the kind of thing you're talking about, observing what a machine does and figuring out how to build something that does the same thing (whether or not the internal mechanism is the same.) I'd say what Coster-Mullen did falls right in the middle of this range, so calling it "reverse engineering" is fair.

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  3. "Most of the time, I'm somebody else's problem" by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A working replica would be dangerous and surely illegal.

    If I had a working replica of a nuclear bomb in my basement, I don't think I would give a rat's ass about whether it was dangerous or illegal.

    If I did have a nuclear bomb, I would not have a problem.

    Some other folks would have a problem.

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    1. Re:"Most of the time, I'm somebody else's problem" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If I did have a nuclear bomb, I would not have a problem.

      Some other folks would have a problem.

      This was precisely America's attitude about nuclear weapons for more than thirty years after Trinity.

      Turns out they were wrong. There was no way to say England yes, France no, India yes, Pakistan no, Israel yes, Iran no.

      The Atomic Bomb created the sense in American leaders that our overwhelming advantage in power created an American hegemony.

      Like the Jurassic Park geneticist believing his "sterile" dinos would not spread, Truman and subsequent presidents believed in the myth of "control" that would keep the genie in the bottle. Worse, they thought they could be the "decider" of who gets to rub the lamp and who doesn't.

      Me, I just hope Fallout 3 doesn't turn out to be predictive. I've run out of Rad-Away.

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    2. Re:"Most of the time, I'm somebody else's problem" by Luscious868 · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I did have a nuclear bomb, I would not have a problem. Some other folks would have a problem.

      Signed,

      Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

  4. Re:First homebrew nuke by RichardJenkins · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hopefully not that accurate.

  5. Not so big a deal by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Hiroshima bomb was a very simple "gun" design. Plenty of published info on it. It used a navy gun barrel cut down to size, a U235 doughnut target, a polonium initiator, and a U235 projectile. Mighty simple. Any chopper shop could build one, with the exception of getting the Polonium and U235.

    This design was abandoned as it had many drawbacks-- it used about 8 times more U235 than absolutely necessary, there was a 7% chance of a fizzle, and there was no way to make it safe.
    But it had the advantage that it was dead-simple and guaranteed to work, well 93% of the time.

    Now if he made a replica of Fat Man, that would really be something.

    1. Re:Not so big a deal by Compholio · · Score: 4, Informative

      ...a U235 doughnut target, a polonium initiator, and a U235 projectile...

      If you'd actually read the article then you'd know that he discovered that the projectile was hollow and the target was solid. Personally, I just skimmed it - but it seems like he collected a lot of facts that lead him to believe that people were parroting incorrect information about how the bomb was constructed and he wanted to set the record straight.

    2. Re:Not so big a deal by RDW · · Score: 4, Informative

      'The Hiroshima bomb was a very simple "gun" design. Plenty of published info on it. It used a navy gun barrel cut down to size, a U235 doughnut target, a polonium initiator, and a U235 projectile. Mighty simple.'

      A major point of the article is that many of the key (and repeatedly published) 'facts' about the bomb are quite wrong. e.g., according to Coster-Mullen, the projectile was actually a hollow cylinder and the target was a rod rather than a doughnut - 'little boy was female'. Wikipedia is now using his version of the bomb design in the Little Boy article:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy
       

  6. Re:atomic weiner by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are a lot of stories that appear on /. in which I have absolutely no interest. (The same could be said by practically anyone here.) So you know what I do when one of those stories comes up on the front page? I don't click on it. Easy, simple solution -- let the people who do care about that particular story talk about it, and go find something I care about to read and comment on instead. Everybody wins. It's not that hard a concept to grasp.

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  8. Intentional misdirection by sphealey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One thing to keep in mind when you read statement such as "Destroy R. Worlds, former Director of Bomb Design at Los Alamos, said of Joe Amateur's work 'That's very well-done'" is this: reading between the lines of many interviews, articles, and books about and by former weaponeers they give out a lot of misleading, and/or misdirecting, information about how _exactly_ devices are built. They talk openly about the general principles and their scientific and political implications, but when the discussion/interview/chapter turns to the actual details of design, well, the replies turn a bit fuzzy or clever. I suspect that either by explicit training or shared values they give away very little and much of what they say would deliberately lead anyone following down the wrong path.

    sPh

  9. Re:FUD, censorship, and freedom. by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Informative


    Besides, a lot of the difficulty in making even an inefficient nuclear bomb at all obtaining the weapons grade fissile material.

    I'd say that the vast majority of the difficulty is obtaining the fissile material. Weapons grade uranium/plutonium doesn't exactly grow on trees. Creating it yourself (and preventing anyone from stopping you) takes the power of a government.

    This has essentially been the policy to control proliferation for 60 years now. Stopping the knowledge of the design details is merely security theater.

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  10. Best Line in the Article by dd1968 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article: "Actually, he said, nothing about the bomb is secret. He smiled and added, 'The secret of the atomic bomb is how easy they are to make.'"

  11. Re:First homebrew nuke by demachina · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its a little sad to skim through the posts on this story and find pretty much all of them are lame.

    Its a long article but its really a fascinating read and I'm guessing almost no one did. It makes a couple really insightful points:

    A. All of the U.S. governments obsessive secrecy about nuclear bomb technology is pure security theater. The hard part is mastering the fuel cycle. If you can acquire the fuel or master the fuel cycle, making the bomb is pretty easy.

    B. Much of what we read and take for authoritative is in fact garbage. There have apparently been a number of works on Fat Man and Little Boy, often by well educated and authoritative authors that were apparently complete nonsense. It just took an obsessive photographer/truck driver with no college degree to debunk one authoritative work after another. In particular apparently everyone thought the Uranium bomb was a female target shot with a male shaped projectile because thats the way people expected it to be, when in fact it appears it was the other way around.

    One also wonders if the U.S. government intentionally propagated nonsense in these "authoritative" works thinking it would set back some aspiring bomb maker. For example, in one work it apparently said the barrel in the Uranium bomb was made of wood which was apparently pretty comical since it had to contain the explosion of several bags of cordite.

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  12. It's about the mass by DG · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, it is a pair of nested cylinders, and the rationale behind it is brilliant.

    To get the biggest possible boom, you want to bring together the largest possible mass of fissile material. Problem: if you accumulate too large a mass, it starts a chain reaction on its own.

    But if you form that mass into a ring shape, and make the hole in the ring large enough, you create extra surface area for neutrons to escape, but the gap is too big for them to have sufficient energy to split an atom on the other side of the gap.

    For a given outer diameter (fixed by the inner diameter of the bomb casing) the maximum mass of fissile material is obtained with a cylinder whose height is determined by the mass on the "side" of the cylinder nox exceeding criticality. A mating cone shape results in a smaller usuable mass.

    So why make the projectile hollow instead of shooting a slug into a hollow target? Because the sides of the gun barrel constrain the movement of the projectile and ensure that the mating surfaces are aligned.

    It's actually, for such a "crude" design, brilliant engineering.

    DG

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  13. Re:First homebrew nuke by cyn1c77 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Get it straight.

    The US government does not confirm or deny comments on classified technology. Nuclear weapons are classified. So if you write a book that is full of crap on nuclear bombs, all of the experts will general work for (or have worked for) the government and will not be able to comment on it.

    Thus, people who are not in "the know" will read the book and say "Gee, this is really great stuff, very accurate." Meanwhile those who actually work on these weapons and who have security clearances will buy the book, read the book, laugh about the errors with each other... and not talk about it to the general public.

    It's easy to be a self-proclaimed expert when all the real experts can't comment and you can't actually demonstrate that your technology works.

    And finally, you really think making a bomb is easy if you have the fuel? Do you have personal experience here? Keep in mind you don't get a lot of testing opportunities with these things, and diagnosing what is going on during the explosion is also quite involved. There's a big difference between assembling your nuclear material to generate some nuclear yield and actually generating significant nuclear yield.