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Cox Communications and "Congestion Management"

imamac writes "It appears Cox Communications is the next in line for throttling internet traffic. But it's not throttling of course; Cox's euphemism is 'congestion management.' From Cox's explanation: 'In February, Cox will begin testing a new method of managing traffic on our high-speed Internet network in our Kansas and Arkansas markets. During the occasional times the network is congested, this new technology automatically ensures that all time-sensitive Internet traffic — such as web pages, voice calls, streaming videos and gaming — moves without delay. Less time-sensitive traffic, such as file uploads, peer-to-peer and Usenet newsgroups, may be delayed momentarily...' Sounds like throttling to me."

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  1. "time sensitive"? by Mariner28 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are they purposely referring to priority traffic as "time sensitive" as opposed to "delay sensitive" just to make the average joe think this is better? Don't get me wrong - as a network design engineer I'm all for prioritizing latency sensitive traffic like VoIP or streaming video. Just don't treat Cox's VoIP any better than Skype's or Vonages... This whole Net Neutrality thing is a bummer. I like the idea of democratizing traffic - but only of the same type. No way in hell should FTP or BitTorrent have the same priority as VoIP.

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    1. Re:"time sensitive"? by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No way in hell should FTP or BitTorrent have the same priority as VoIP.

            Yes because you calling your grandmother to chit chat using VoIP is far more important than me sending Magnetic Resonance Imaging files to India via FTP.

            That is exactly the kind of argument you will be dragged into the minute you choose one thing over another. You just can't make generalizations over which type of traffic is more "important".

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  2. Re:QOS by nine-times · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, prioritizing some traffic isn't, in theory, the same thing as throttling other traffic. To me, "throttling" suggests that they're saying "traffic using protocol X cannot use more than Y kbps," whereas "prioritizing" would be ensuring that, "whenever we have to choose between delaying protocol X or protocol Y, we always delay protocol X."

    Now there are still potential issues with implementation, which protocols you chose to prioritize, and outright abuse for other purposes (such as promoting your own services or degrading competing services). However, in abstract, I don't think it's an absolutely awful idea.

  3. Re:So.. by Jeng · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Time Warner has been able to provide me with consistent bandwidth that is not infringed upon by my neighbors downloading large files ( ok, so its usually me downloading large files not infringing on my neighbors bandwidth ).

    So if Cox's competition can do it, why can't they?

    If Cox cannot deliver what they advertise why can't they be sued for false advertising?

    If Cox would just upgrade their infrastructure they wouldn't have this problem, not only that but they would have happier customers and less upset former customers.

    So the basic idea of business that Cox seems to be unable to comprehend is that if they invested in their business then they would actually get more customers.

    Instead Cox is going the MBA route of if they f*ck the customers then the customers will bend over and take it or leave.

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  4. Re:So.. by Utini420 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm no more interested in the quality of another customer's service with this product than any other -- when I go out to eat, I'm not going to let them overcook my steak to be sure they get your souffle just right. Why should this be different?

    On the overselling, why should they be allowed to be anything less than totally honest? Again, just because its internet doesn't make it special.

    As a further point, if you expect them to do it correctly you must have been dealing with some cable company other than mine.

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