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India Will Show Its $10 Laptop Prototype

Tech Ticker writes "The Indian Government last year announced the development of a cheap $10 laptop, but was later rectified as $100 laptop. Now the government has announced that HRD minister Arjun Singh will unveil the prototype of a Rs. 500 ($10) computer. The computer is developed by the Indian Institute of Science (IISc), Bangalore, and Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), Chennai. No specifications were revealed but DNA, a daily newspaper, has mentioned that it will be small and portable, will feature Wi-Fi, LAN, and expandable memory, and will operate on 2 watts of power."

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  1. Imagine... by AdeBaumann · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... a $1000 beowulf cluster of those!

    Sorry, had to be done...

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    1. Re:Imagine... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But does it run Vista?

      For $10, they can't even afford to put the Vista sticker on these things.

      Which, by the way, is a plus. I just bought my daughter a new laptop, and they put more stickers on that thing than Dale Jr's NASCAR ride.

      The really nasty thing is that not all of the stickers come off, either. A couple of them I was able to remove cleanly, but the one advertising the processor, and of course the "Vista fer Sure!" sticker seemed pretty immutable.

      Hell fire, I'll take half a dozen of those sawbuck laptops right now if they just leave the friggin' stickers off.

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    2. Re:Imagine... by aonaran · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Dad made it a condition of the sale that they not put the dealer sticker on it.

      "but they all have the sticker, we put it on as soon as they get to the lot" said the dealer.

      "You do not, you trade cars with other lots and they don't want your sticker on a car they sell" Dad said.

      "But I'm not allowed to let a car leave here without it"

      "Then you don't get my sale"

      He got the car, and there was no sticker on it.

    3. Re:Imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ok... 2W each required for power. $1000 buys you 100 of them, max RAM 2GB. So total power consumption for 100 laptops = 200W, or less than one desktop PC.

      Buy a some cheap NAS and a few $30 Gb switches at BestBuy.

      Run ESXi (if you can) on each (free license). Run 4 Linux-based VMs at 512MB each on each laptop. Throw as many laptops as you can into HA/DRS clusters.

      Configure each Linux VM as a beowulf node if you like, or not. Who cares, you're maximizing/balancing the resources on all 100 machines, do what you like with them.

      You now have about 400 Linux VMs running on about $1500 worth of hardware.

      Poor Man's Datacenter for about the price of one gaming PC. Oh sorry, you'd probably need at least one decent-sized room fan somewhere nearby too, $30 at Home Depot.

    4. Re:Imagine... by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Chuck Norris must be your uncle.

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  2. Critical thinking anyone? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No specifications were revealed but DNA, a daily newspaper, has mentioned that it will be small and portable, will feature Wi-Fi, LAN, and expandable memory, and will operate on 2 watts of power.

    A little critical thinking here: How, exactly, would anyone build that for $10? How much is the cheapest of cheap WiFi adapters at retail? $30? $20? Okay, now how thin are those margins?

    I just don't see how they can pull all that off for $10.

    1. Re:Critical thinking anyone? by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

      well, they can save money by insourcing the software development...

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    2. Re:Critical thinking anyone? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is a cheap graphing calculator!

      The TI-85 I needed for my high school algebra classes cost $90. A decade and a half later, that same model still exists and still costs $90. As far as I can tell, all they've changed in that time is the faceplate and replaced the proprietary serial connector with a USB plug.

      If the graphing calculator market had followed the same price/performance curve that personal computers have, we'd have plenty of powerful $10 calculators today.

  3. From TFA - $20 actually by denzacar · · Score: 5, Funny

    But they hope for a lower price with mass production.

    "At this stage, the price is working out to be $20 but with mass production it is bound to come down," R P Agarwal, secretary, higher education said.

    Meanwhile, this laptop is still priced at $12.25.

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  4. Re:I hope they succeed. by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see why Negroponte's OLPC project didn't succeed before. I can buy a netbook on Newegg for 250$... yet a laptop with a quarter of the power and less functionality can't be built for less than 200$ for the OLPC.

    It didn't succeed because Negroponte wouldn't let anyone who wanted one buy it. It's that simple. Had he done that he would have sold enough of them to get them into the field and had money to continue development and produce them faster.

    So what stopped Negroponte was....Negroponte.

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  5. Re:I hope they succeed. by pz · · Score: 4, Informative

    It didn't succeed because Negroponte wouldn't let anyone who wanted one buy it. It's that simple. Had he done that he would have sold enough of them to get them into the field and had money to continue development and produce them faster.

    So what stopped Negroponte was....Negroponte.

    Uhm, sources for this, please? According to the Wikipedia entry, there's an estimated 1,000,000 units sold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child#Summary_of_laptop_orders and according to a recent written interview with Negroponte, they're about to deploy the 1,000,000th unit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child#Summary_of_laptop_orders --- so I fail to see where your assertion holds together. You can't take orders for a million units and be all that selective about who buys them. Through the B1G1 / G1G1 programs anyone with a valid credit card could purchase. That certainly sounds like an open door.

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  6. Ignore IP licensing and engineering costs by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That'll save you a bundle right there. If you write the engineering off as a total loss after you take the first corporation bankrupt and then you stiff the IP owners on royalties when you build them, you'll be on the way to getting it done. It will be flimsy, not include batteries (for 2W you can buy rechargeables), and have a very poor screen, and the $10 won't include packaging, marketing, distribution, or profit. The QA will be poor too, so there will be lots of failures, but at that price point most won't bother to send it back for repairs.

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  7. Re:I hope they succeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simple. I, as a consumer in the U.S., couldn't simply buy one. I had to use the Buy-one, Give-one program. A much better program would be to let anyone buy them, in any amount without doubling the price. If it was a hit in the retail market, the price would have come down.

    It failed before it started.

  8. Pre-order gift by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Included will be a voucher for your trial version of Duke Nukem Forever.

    Also, a calendar going up to 2050 specifying exactly the year of "Linux on the Desktop."

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  9. Re:I hope they succeed. by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The G1G1 _doubled_ the price of the laptop for a lone purchaser thus putting it closer to the range of a standard cheap notebook for the average purchaser. This alone was enough to push people away from purchasing it for their own use.

    If he had just let people buy them in single units for the stated original cost he would have considerably more money to produce more units and would have likely hit that one million unit mark much much sooner.

    He also started the G1G1 program only AFTER people complained they couldn't buy one for themselves. Furthermore he STOPPED the program instead of just letting it run and gaining whatever money he could get out of it.

    As for citations do your own damn research - the rest of us have been watching this train wreck since it started.

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  10. Re:I hope they succeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let me guess, you've never been to India. Sure, there are places that are modern and very livable, but you also have many areas with slum conditions unimaginable in Western Europe and North America.

    Have you ever seen a river of shit and waste with a plank over it leading to someone's home?

  11. Re:Where is China's innovation? by nbharatvarma · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have seen IPhone rip-offs for Rs. 2500/-. At the current rate of exchange, it would be around $50. These phones don't even have IMEI numbers and the government has banned the phones for that reason.
    I have seen the phone in action and it works just fine.
    I am guessing you will never get these mobiles in the U.S. :)

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  12. Re:Where is China's innovation? by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    China does not have innovation. Unlike Japan,

          Perhaps if you were just a little older, you would remember when all Japan could do was copy Western technology. However today Japan can innovate. Give China another 30 years, and then watch out!

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  13. Re:I hope they succeed. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    because you know nothing abotu the OLPC project.

    your netbook is a toy that if dropped once in the sand or mud it will be dead.

    the OLPC is a cheap panasonic toughbook. the OLPC is designed to survive in 3rd world conditions Operate from 0% humidity to 100% humidity in 120 degree heat.

    Your netbook is a child's toy compared to what the OLPC was supposed to be. It's like how the top of the line Alienware or Dell XPS is a complete joke to a Toughbook 30.

    and it's why a toughbook 30 is $5800.00 for lessthan 1/2 the processing power of the Alienware laptop.

    OLPC = toughbook netbook. They cost more plus they dont want to force all cultures to learn english to use it. Unlike all netbooks.

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  14. Re:I hope they succeed. by nicks,nicks,nicks! · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let me guess,you watched Slumdog Millionaire,right?

  15. Can we get that price lower? I think we *can*! by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 5, Funny

    A $10 notebook is yet more proof that free markets, competition and Globalization will ensure the future strength prosperity of Western Civilization!

    But can we get that price lower? I think we *can*!

    1.) First, we have to trim the lowest 10% of performers from every organization. (Pay bonuses to executives for doing this effectively.) Tip: trim Human Resources last -- we need them to do the hatchet work while senior management strokes the shareholders and analysts.

    2.) Repeat 1.) a few times and what will remain is a lean and absolutely *amazing* company of workers who do more error-free work with a facial muscle spasm than other schmucks do in 6 months with both hands and 20/20 vision!

    3.) Next, we find cheaper workers. India's labour costs are a big part of that $10. Whom will we get to do the work? EASY... we train bonobos. We don't even have to feed them much -- those suckers are pretty lean.

    4.) Sack all Testing and Quality Assurance people. With our lean, superproductive staff and well-trained bonobos, we won't need to test. And if there's a problem, we'll silence talk of it with legal threats and "promise" to fix the bug(s) in a future release. (Ha ha!)

    5.) Squeeze as much free money as we can out of the government. If the government is Pro-Business, say we're creating new jobs in a cutting-edge market. If the government is Green, say we're saving the bonobos. If it's a coalition, say whatever you have to say no matter how self-contradictory or idiotic.

    6.) Spend cash from 5.) on bribes to steal someone else's technology. R&D is for losers.

    7.) Throw the product over the wall and pump up the advertising! If it fails, lock the workers out and give senior management a round of bonuses. But it won't fail, because using the above strategy, I think we have the $10 notebook down to $2.35.

    Unless of course "$10" is a typo.

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  16. Lower GDP vs. lower cost of living by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    By most accounts, and the most important of them is the GDP per capita

    Translated into dollars or into Big Macs? There's a difference. Plenty of countries have deeply undervalued currencies, which makes the cost of living in those countries appear a lot cheaper than the cost of a comparable lifestyle in North America, Europe, Japan, or the Republic of Korea. Look up purchasing power parity and The Economist's Big Mac Index in the encyclopedia, and follow the references if you're interested.