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"Subhuman Project" Human Powered Submarine

overThruster writes "Inventor Ted Ciamillo and marine biologist Frank Fish (yes, that's his real name) are at work on a human-powered sub designed to cross the Atlantic. What's interesting is the highly efficient propulsion system which uses a 'tail' modeled after CAT scans of a dolphin's. From the article: 'Ciamillo and Fish say they knew they were onto something when the first prototype Lunocet, a piece of sculpted foam sandwiched between two pieces of carbon fiber, essentially swam by itself. When they released it at the bottom of a test pool, its buoyancy combined with its cambered shape generated a forward thrust that made it scoot across the tank.'"

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  1. Can't Wait For the Next Headline ... by DisplacedJoshua · · Score: 4, Funny

    Scientists eaten by sharks. "They looked delicious" - JAWS

  2. And at by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

    Overheard at Frank's (yes, that's his real name) retirement: "So long, and thanks for all, Fish."

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  3. full article by ianare · · Score: 5, Informative

    full article
    STOP posting multipage versions of articles !!!

  4. Re:A Subhuman Project, eh? by conureman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Better than Hunley.

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  5. A "sub" that goes 2 meters down, and stays there? by sirwired · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is not a submarine. This is a boat that happens to float two meters below the surface of the water.

    Depth control consists of him swimming to the surface, filling a bladder with air, and then attaching it to the sub.

    And I'm not impressed with his claims that it practically "swam by itself." Getting something to move horizontally when provided with vertical buoyancy and travel is not exactly what one would call difficult, and it has nothing to do with how efficient the boat is or isn't under power.

    SirWired

  6. Not Entirely Human by camperdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He plans to pedal 2 metres below the surface all day, coming up only at night when he will sleep in a tent erected on the top of the sub. If the wind is blowing in the right direction he'll fly a kite to gain a few extra miles while he sleeps.

    So, it looks like they'll be supplementing human power with wind power. That's kind of disappointing.

    'Ciamillo and Fish say they knew they were onto something when the first prototype Lunocet, a piece of sculpted foam sandwiched between two pieces of carbon fiber, essentially swam by itself.

    Yes, that's called gliding. It happens whenever a thin flat surface moves freely through a fluid. Aeroplanes and gliders use this all the time. The keel on a sailboat and the rudder on a ship use the same principle. Many autonomous underwater vehicles use buoyancy gliding as a method of propulsion. Increase the density of the robot by compressing an air bladder, and the robot sinks. Fins convert the vertical drop into a forward glide. Expand the air bladder, the robot gets less dense and rises. Again the fins convert the vertical motion into forward motion.

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  7. Re:Sounds fun by JustNilt · · Score: 4, Informative

    The point is that the buoyancy allowed it to float up a bit, causing water to flow over the propulsion surfaces. That flow, however slight, moved the sub forward. That's actually rather impressive, considering most subs sink like a freaking rock or bob like a log (depending on their buoyancy) instead of moving forward while bobbing slightly. The speed of said forward motion wasn't stated that I saw but it speaks to the fact that it ought to work. Now to see if ti works as well as they think it will.

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  8. Huh? by jamrock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if they're going to call it a submarine, I'd like to see it go deeper than that.

    Out of curiosity, how deep does a submersible have to be able to dive before you'd classify it as a submarine? Every dictionary I've checked only defines it, more or less, as a vessel capable of operating submerged; there is no mention whatsoever of a depth requirement to classify it as such.

    1. Re:Huh? by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wipedia says:
      "A submarine is a watercraft capable of independent operation below water. It differs from a submersible, which has only limited underwater capability." I don't believe depth comes into play, either.

  9. Re:Diving Depth by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the article, he's going to dive to 20 meters for about 45 minutes periodically (full article link: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126936.900-across-the-ocean-in-a-pedalpowered-submarine.html?full=true scrollbar about 1/2 way).

  10. Patent infringement! by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 3, Funny

    I claim prior art! Hell, I am prior art!

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