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PC's Waste Heat Could Add To Processing Power

Urchin writes to tell us that physicists working in a new field called "phononics" claim that waste heat from a processor could actually be used to add to its power. "Crunching data coded using photons — photonic computing — is one example, and in 2007 researchers built the first workable optical transistor. But now the idea of computing using heat flow is gaining popularity among applied physicists. Heat travels through solid materials by means of phonons — ripples of vibration passing through a series of atoms. Those ripples can be used to send and store data in digital form: one temperature is read as 0 or 'off' while a second, higher temperature is interpreted as 1 or 'on.' Provided that the thermal memory is well insulated, it can keep its temperature — and data — intact for a long time."

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  1. CPU Turbo by pak9rabid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting...kind of like a turbocharger for a CPU.

    1. Re:CPU Turbo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like there will be a new market for all of those 386 boxes with the turbo button.

    2. Re:CPU Turbo by DittoBox · · Score: 5, Funny

      With such memorable phrases as:

      "See these stickers? They make my computer go faster!"

      "With this giant wing on the back of my front-wheel drive computer I get the down force I need to go fast"

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  2. Obligary Simpsons Quote. by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lisa, In this house we obey the laws of thermal dynamics!

    That said. It may save some power converting loss head back again making it more efficient.
    But they way that most people use computers I don't know if there is a benefit. We rarely run at full CPU Heat kicking.

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  3. Hooked on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm hooked on phononics. And quit making fun of my stuttutter!

  4. Hmm by ZwJGR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Provided that the thermal memory is well insulated", that basically means putting it on a different piece of silicon/on something else entirely, which kind of defeats the object as I see it.

    While I haven't looked at this in great detail, it strikes me that achieving anything near useful density is going to very difficult due to entropy, and the simple fact that putting very small volumes at slightly different temperatures right next to each others quickly leads to a relatively uniform temperature distribution.

    This sounds somewhat improbable/unfeasible to me...

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    1. Re:Hmm by evanbd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Quick, someone tell the physicits! I'm sure they forgot all about this. Good thing we have /. to check their work.

    2. Re:Hmm by morcego · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just because the math works, doesn't mean it is viable to implement.

      As TFA say, the theorists just came up with the idea and some of the math, and pretty much left to the practical physicists to find a way to implement it.

      Next, how to use your farts, produced while using a computer (wasted right now), to increase its power.

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    3. Re:Hmm by Vellmont · · Score: 3, Interesting


      Quick, someone tell the physicits! I'm sure they forgot all about this.

      More like someone tell the journalists (the people who actually WROTE this article). It happens all the time that a scientist says something offhand like "and you could use this for processing power", and a journalist misinterprets this to mean that it's both feasible, and commercially viable.

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  5. Good Luck With That! by loose+electron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This, IMHO is an academic concept at best. State definition by thermal state has been done in research before but it is slow, and trying to collect the waste energy in the form of heat and re-use it as the byproduct in another state machine sounds a bit questionable.

    Mechanical computers are viable as well, but not too terribly practical.

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  6. Tooooooo slooooow. by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Phonons travel at the speed of sound in their medium, which is 100,000 times slower than the speed of electrical signals or light. If you've got a phononic circuit running at a Ghz clock rate, signals can only travel a few microns. This size limit severely restricts the number of individual components you can have in your circuit.

    Go light, or go home.

  7. I've got a better idea by beef+curtains · · Score: 3, Informative

    If I understand this properly (and it's not 100% guaranteed that I do), this sounds like an excessively complicated solution that would yield relatively little benefit. The "sandwich" idea from TFA sounds especially counterproductive, if external power is required to keep the hot side hit & the cold side cold.

    Instead of trying to harness waste heat to eke out a fraction of a percent of extra processing power, here's an idea: how about sucking that waste heat into a small insulated pipe with a low-voltage van, and running that pipe down to my feet? It's very cold near the floor of my apartment, and some warm air aimed at my tootsies would be greatly appreciated while I use my computer.

    Maybe this pipe could have a little door I could close in the summer, when the additional warmth would be less welcome.

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  8. Seasonal by rossdee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Its winter. There is no such thing as 'waste heat'. Every watt emitted by a computer is a watt that doesn't have to be emitted by the heater.

    1. Re:Seasonal by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Its winter.

      The southern hemisphere says hi! We're still in the middle of an intense heatwave where the temperature inside is 304.5K.