Slashdot Mirror


Major Study Concludes That Cloud Seeding Is Effective

An anonymous reader writes "A 45-year Australian trial is the best evidence yet that cloud seeding — the practice of artificially inducing clouds to make rain — really works."

15 of 81 comments (clear)

  1. Oh Real clouds by jgtg32a · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought this was some new bit torrent technique using the cloud or something.

    Looks like its lunch time

    1. Re:Oh Real clouds by impaledsunset · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's exactly what it's all about. When you seed from the cloud, the torrents run better.

  2. Am I Missing Something? by Jon.Laslow · · Score: 3, Informative

    Linked article points to Spray-On Solar Panels... Huh?

    1. Re:Am I Missing Something? by CarpetShark · · Score: 3, Funny

      Idiot. The point is clear to the rest of us: you spray the solar panels on the sides of underpowered clouds, and they're then capable of producing fully fledged rainstorms. If you just want a bit of rain now and then, you can use half a spray-on panel, with dodgy spray-on wiring.

    2. Re:Am I Missing Something? by Anonymous+Monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought it was because every time I try to use solar powered anything the weather turns bad. Therefore if we cover Mojave with solar panels it will become a rain forest.

      --
      We are the Borg...
  3. Proper URL and text by grogglefroth · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2514/major-study-proves-cloud-seeding-effective

    SYDNEY: A 45-year Australian trial is the best evidence yet that could seeding - the practice of artificially inducing clouds to make rain - really works.

    Since the mid-20th century scientists have attempted to produce rain by dispersing chemical substances into the clouds and stimulating precipitation. However, until now, there has been little concrete scientific evidence that cloud seeding is effective.

    "This is the first time that an independent analysis of cloud seeding data over several decades has shown a statistically significant increase in rainfall," said Steven Siems, a meteorologist from Monash University in Melbourne and leader of the study.

    Significant finding

    The Monash team, in conjunction with renewable energy firm Hydro Tasmania, analysed monthly rainfall patterns over the hydroelectric catchment area between May and October from 1960 until 2005.

    As they detailed in the Journal of Applied Meteorology and Climatology the analysis revealed higher levels of rain in the parts of the catchment where the rain making technique was used than in those where it was not.

    "A number of independent statistical tests showed a consistent increase of at least five per cent in monthly rainfall over the catchment area," said Siems.

    For the could seeding technique, the researchers select clouds using specialist weather radar technology that allows them to see all the tiny processes that take place within them.

    Once clouds for seeding are chosen, minute particles of a silver compound are dusted into them by light aircraft to stimulate rain formation.

    Super-cooled water

    Anthony Morrison, a climatologist at Monash and co-author of the study, explained that these silver particles cause super-cooled water in the clouds to freeze. As these particular clouds are so high in the atmosphere that they are below freezing point, the frozen drops recruit water and get heavier causing them to fall from the clouds as rain.

    However, the researchers caution that the result may be due to the unique clouds in this part of Tasmania and would be difficult to reproduce elsewhere.

    "Clouds over the Southern Ocean are different to any other clouds", Siems told Cosmos Online. "They are really loaded with super cool liquid water." Just as important, he said, is the remoteness of the location: "the air in the Southern Ocean is exceptionally clean with virtually no pollution."

    And the researchers are still at a loss to precisely explain how the technique was successful.

    "They're really not comparable to clouds that have been seeded anywhere else in the world," said Morrison. "Further field measurements of cloud microphysics over the region are needed to provide a physical basis for these statistical results."

    Despite the caveats, other experts are excited by the results.

    "At long last there is scientific backup for the [cloud seeding] hypothesis that has been suggested over the years," commented Roger Stone, director of the Australian Centre for Sustainable Catchments at the University of Southern Queensland in Toowoomba.

    However, while the study is a breakthrough, he noted that cloud seeding does not work in all locations and specific techniques have to be developed for each region.

    "For example, in Queensland the conditions are highly different. It has to be the right time and exactly the right cloud for it to work," he said. "The key is to get a very good weather radar."

    Let it snow

    Paul Johnson, a spokesperson from Snowy Hydro, who are conducting similar experiments to artificial induce snowfall in Victoria's Snowy Mountains, said the results were promising. "It's another indicator that supports our preliminary data and backs up what the experts said in the beginning. That we would see an increase in snow."

    Because of the unusual nature of

    --
    Good, Fast, Cheap - Pick any two. - RFC 1925
  4. Now if only California can use this... by Praedon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...Wildfires are pretty tough out there, so why not use this method?

    Correct link by the way: http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2514/major-study-proves-cloud-seeding-effective

    --
    Just me
    1. Re:Now if only California can use this... by 3waygeek · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, California has been cloud seeding since 1948, with varying degrees of success. I suppose another arrow in the quiver couldn't hurt.

    2. Re:Now if only California can use this... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I suspect that, if the effect is subtle enough to require a multi-year statistical analysis involving an entire hydro catchment, it'd be only modestly more effective than spitting for dealing with fire.

      Might be possible to keep the place a little moister, and thus less prone to fire(likely at the cost of stealing even more water from surrounding areas); but not much more than that.

  5. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, apparently editors don't even LOOK at TFA these days :P

  6. Re:Terraforming the Earth by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "painting all roofs white to increase the albido,"

    It's "libido" or "albedo". Although I'm not sure what the color of the roof has to do with what goes on underneath it.

    --
    "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
  7. Rain Wars? by Dripdry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does this mean that countries could begin to wage "weather war"? If we stop rain from falling on a country, it would be just sieging a castle.

    --
    -
  8. Phew! Thank christ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought I may have to go a whole day without seeing a story about Australia on Slashdot.

    I hate it when it's kdawson's day off!

    Luckily for us timothy stepped into the breach.

    So, what's the next BIG STORY: Australian Man Figures Out How To Use Light Switch?

  9. Re:"Chemtrails?" by Valdrax · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does cloud seeding explain all of the paranoid "chemtrail" chatter found in the seedy underbelly of the internets?

    No. Crazy doesn't need an explanation. Witness "Morgellons Syndrome," people who think the moon landing was faked, and alien abductees. Some delusions just go viral on their own.

    That said, sometimes I wonder if there *is* an explanation. Is there a way to predict what kinds of delusions will go mass delusion and which will stay localized to a few crazies (like Time Cube)? I mean, we know that trans-cranial magnetic stimulation can recreate the paralysis, terror, and hallucinations of an "alien abduction," so there's an underlying biological explanation for this. "Morgellons" (and delusional parasitosis in general) is more common among women over 40. Does that indicate a biological root? On the other hand, I feel skeptical about suggesting a strong biological link behind "the moon landing was faked" crazies; that's probably more the result of cultural influences, but is there any biological reason why that one resonates with some people still in a way that "9/11 was faked" no longer really does for nearly as many people after only 8 years?

    Is "chemtrail" chatter the work of one inventive crazy whose explanations got popular among the crowd of paranoids who are easily influenced in that direction, or is there some deeper reason why that pattern of delusion resonates with some people. Is it biological? The result of deep-seated assumptions of our culture and way of life? Just the shallow zeitgeist of the day?

    I dunno, but I like to think about this sort of thing. People are just the funniest creatures in creation some days.

    --
    If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").