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Scientists Create Compound With a Single Element

rocketman768 writes "An international team of researchers including scientists at the Carnegie Institution has discovered a new chemical compound that consists of a single element: boron. Chemical compounds are conventionally defined as substances consist of two or more elements, but the researchers found that at high pressure and temperature pure boron can assume two distinct forms that bond together to create a novel 'compound' called boron boride."

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  1. Eh? by Dyinobal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think my head just exploded. Compound, of one element. What next transparent aluminum?

    1. Re:Eh? by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't you mean aluminum oxynitride? http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123012131

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    2. Re:Eh? by Fluffeh · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think my head just exploded. Compound, of one element. What next transparent aluminum?

      Geez, get with the program! Next, an element made of two different atomic molecules.

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    3. Re:Eh? by davester666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, he did say he only THINKS his head exploded.

      By the theory of Occam's Razor, it's much likely he's just delusional...

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    4. Re:Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oxyboron.

      Best. Tag. Ever.

      I _actually_ blew snot over my keyboard laughing when I saw that.

    5. Re:Eh? by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2, Funny


      Milla Jovavich is carved out of Boron? I don't believe it!

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  2. I don't understand by DigitAl56K · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why is this not an allotrope? I'm not a chemist so excuse me if the answer seems obvious to those with a better understanding.

    1. Re:I don't understand by snowgirl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is this not an allotrope? I'm not a chemist so excuse me if the answer seems obvious to those with a better understanding.

      That's exactly what I was wondering. The title made me wonder "what? graphite? diamonds?"

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    2. Re:I don't understand by snowgirl · · Score: 5, Informative

      Reading the intro paragraph of the article, I have an answer.

      This is an IONIC compound. Someone felt that it was an unnecessary or unimportant distinction to make.

      It's the first IONIC compound to be composed of only one element.

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    3. Re:I don't understand by rajkiran_g · · Score: 5, Informative

      AFAIK, an allotrope is just a different spatial arrangement of atoms without any transfer of electrons. However, in this case, the arrangement is such that there is a transfer of charge from one set of atoms to another.

      From TFA,

      How can an element be ionic? Classical chemistry textbooks indicate that charge transfer occurs when atoms have different electronegativities and this automatically disqualifies pure elements as possible ionic phases. Boron finds a surprising solution to this problem â" its new structure contains two very different types of nanoclusters, B12 icosahedra (blue in the figure above) and B2 dumbbells (orange in the figure above). The electronic structures of these two clusters are very different â" in fact, the dependence of electronic properties on the size of the cluster is well known and is the main idea of nanotechnology. Electronegativities of the B12 icosahedra and B2 pairs are different, and this causes charge redistribution and the emergence of partial ionicity in this elemental structure.

    4. Re:I don't understand by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Basically an ionic compound is formed when one part has a whole positive charge and another has a whole number negative charge. So table salt consists of Sodium Chloride or a Sodium that has a +1 electric charge and a Chlorine with a -1 charge. (Opp attract so they stick.) However O2 isn't held together because one oxygen atom has one charge and the other doesn't. Instead they form a covalent bond which is basically the 2 oxygen atoms share electrons and that's what makes them stick to each other.

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    5. Re:I don't understand by Progman3K · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because an allotrope is a different arrangement of the same element on its own.

      You can find a diamond and you can also find graphite.

      This would be like a graphite diamond.

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  3. Boring... by MadCow42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry, had to say it. :)

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  4. Oblig. Quote by Dragonshed · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:Oblig. Quote by en.ABCD · · Score: 3, Informative

      The site's running MediaWiki, so the image description page, by necessity, is at http://theinfosphere.org/Image:Molten_Boron.jpg (also, a full size version of the image is at http://theinfosphere.org/images/7/78/Molten_Boron.jpg, but you will get another 403 if you just try clicking that link)

  5. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Insightful

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  6. Big Deal.... by The_One_Ring · · Score: 2, Funny

    Call me when they make Hydrogen HexaHydride!

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  7. Re:Puzzled.. by argent · · Score: 5, Informative

    they're covalent, not ionic.

  8. Re:Puzzled.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Whats the difference between that, and say, N2 or O2? Aren't those also compounds of a single element?

    With oxygen and nitrogen the two atoms are identical for all intents and purposes. They share electrons evenly. In this case you have boron atoms that are giving up electrons and boron atoms that are accepting them to reach a stable state. So they're behaving differently, rather than the same.

  9. Related by Walkingshark · · Score: 5, Funny

    Boron Boride, the nobleman? This discovery is an abomination, like the Boride of Frankenstein. And isn't Boron the cousin of the famous Ukranian trumpet player, Boris Boride? I know, my jokes are so bad you must think I'm a total stupid boron. What happens when you drill the surface of something? You boron it. What happens when the drill goes out of control and starts flopping all over the place and you're stuck on top? Boron bo-ride!

    Ok I'll stop.

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  10. Miswritten summary by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Frankly, the article is interesting enough without mangling it in the summary.

    This is the first ionic crystal to consist of only one element. As a compound, by definition, contains two elements, it's not a compound. A boron ionic crystal is substantially different from, say, the multiple allotropes of carbon, though.

    However, this is a solely theoretical crystal -- it hasn't been synthesized.

    1. Re:Miswritten summary by Rutulian · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually it has been synthesized. The structure was determined using a computational method, though. In other words, they couldn't use standard techniques to interpret the x-ray diffraction data and had to use the evolutionary structure prediction method mentioned in the paper.

      What I find kind of amazing is the news article mentions a Vickers hardness of 50 GPa. The journal article doesn't mention anything about that, unless it is somewhere in the supplementary materials, but anyway, if the news article estimated correctly based on the reported phase transformation pressures...that's pretty damn hard!

  11. *OT* Re: Karma by zobier · · Score: 3, Funny

    Finally out of Bad Karma hell, lets see how long THAT lasts.

    You won't help the situation by joking around (no Karma for Funny), you need to bash Microsoft or something.

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  12. Re:Don't be a boron ! by robbrit · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because boron boride is actually the cure for cancer. You'll see.

  13. Re:Don't be a boron ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because boron boride is actually the cure for cancer. You'll see.

    Yes, first you need to pressurize the patient to 100,000 atmospheres. Tada! You're no longer going to die of cancer.

  14. all you are doing by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    is compounding your embarassment

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  15. Except of course it isn't REALLY that simple... by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not to say you are at all wrong, it is a good explanation, but the distinction between 'ionic' and 'covalent' bonds is really one of a matter of degree between 2 extremes.

    At the one extreme we have single element compounds like H2 or O2 in which the electronegativity of the component atoms is (by definition) equal and thus have an even charge distribution and are entirely covalent. This is the simplest case.

    At the other extreme we have substances like NaCl which are made up of atoms with extremely different electronegativities. However there is no such thing as a purely 'ionic' bond. Even in an extremely polar molecule like NaCl the charge distribution isn't ENTIRELY Na+1 and Cl-1. It very nearly is, but not quite.

    MOST compounds are far less clear cut. Even H2O's bonds, which are fairly polar and is composed of 2 species with very different electronegativity the bond is generally characterized as having both an ionic and a covalent character.

    So, our boron boride is also going to be a compound which is not going to be entirely clearly either ionic nor covalent.

    The real problem is that these terms only signify useful generalizations about how chemical species behave. While chemistry CAN be reduced to physics in a reasonably straightforward way in principle, the reality is that most of the terms and most of the ways chemists ordinarily think about chemistry is a set of 'rules of thumb' which are based as much on observation and valued as much for their general utility as they are based on precise formulations of fundamental laws and processes. Even the notion of 'compound' is really to a certain extent a convenience and necessarily gets a bit fuzzy at the 'edges'.

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    1. Re:Except of course it isn't REALLY that simple... by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh no doubt of course. I mean they teach you that in chem 101 and that reaction go in one direction for example. Then in chem 102 they start teaching you about how the reactions actually go in 2 direction and don't really stop but hit equalibrium. Of course in orgo they start telling you how what they originally showed to you a compound with distinct single and double bounds really isn't like that and it's sort of a mixed bond. (I mean benzene for example. The first version they might show you has alternating single and double bonds. In reality all the bonds are of the same length and the bonds are actually an intermediary between single and double bonds.) Oh well, just more having fun with chemistry.

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    2. Re:Except of course it isn't REALLY that simple... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're saying that there's no such thing as table salt. This is obviously false.

      Compounds with strong ionic bonds tend to disassociate completely in water forming the constituent ions (completely being as previously indicated - not really complete).

      However, the moment that they leave the water, they're back to what they were - full molecules again.

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    3. Re:Except of course it isn't REALLY that simple... by snowgirl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      From TFA, actually, Boron Boride is composed of two separate molecules, both of which are allotropes.

      So, it's not really BB, but B2B7 or so... I'm less interested in reading TFA again, but you should be able to look it up yourself.

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  16. Na-Na+ by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the mid-1990s I studied with the book Chemistry in Context by Hill and Holman. The companion book of experiments and real-world applications had a chapter on anions of alkali metals, and it included a picture of the crystalline self-compound Na-Na+.

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  17. Re:Excuse me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reduced to physics? Reduced to physics!! Grr. If its being 'reduced' to physics, then is the rest of it unscientific alchemy?

  18. Re:Excuse me? by QuantumPion · · Score: 2, Funny

    Reduced to physics? Reduced to physics!! Grr.
    If its being 'reduced' to physics, then is the rest of it unscientific alchemy?

    Mathematics.

  19. Actually no by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In a crystal of table salt there are no molecules. No one Na+ is associated with any one given Cl-. The crystal is made up of alternating Na and Cl atoms, sort of like a checkerboard.

    Highly ionic crystalline solids are compounds, but not composed of molecules, and in fact NaCl is NEVER a molecule. In aqueous solution it dissociates entirely. If you melt it you still have a situation where the various atoms move freely in the now liquid substance.

    Very few highly ionic substances, salts, even CAN be vaporized. They are so polar that at the extreme temperatures required you basically just tear atoms off the stuff and end up with a big cloud of ions.

    In a sense you could think of a crystal of salt as a single large macromolecule. Diamond would be an example of a somewhat similar covalently bonded structure.

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