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NASA Fashions Mountain-Climbing Robot
coondoggie writes "NASA researchers today said they had built and tested a robot that can rappel off cliffs, travel over steep and rocky terrain, and explore deep craters. The prototype rover, called Axel, might help future robotic spacecraft better explore and investigate foreign worlds such as Mars. On Earth, Axel might assist in search-and-rescue operations in locations where people might not be able to reach.
Axel can operate upside down and right side up and uses only three motors: one to control each of its two wheels and a third to control a lever. The lever contains a scoop to gather lunar or planetary material for scientists to study, and it also adjusts the robot's two stereo cameras, which can tilt 360 degrees, NASA said."
So what kind of power source is this robot likely to use? NASA's fav solar power isn't really well suited for climbing mountains. So are we going to have a bunch of nuclear powered mountain climbing robots wandering about? If you ask me maybe our best test bed would be Mars.
NASA's write-up with pics.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
Axel can operate upside down and right side up...
There is no such thing as "This side up" when you consider a robot that operates in either orientation. Considering there are 3 motors, it's safe to assume that it doesn't have a bilateral symmetry either.
Face your daemons!
Kkkabbboooom.
Calls it a Timmy.
Get PEOPLE on Mars already you assholes!
Due to budget cuts and to save on fuel costs, Axel is designed to climb up Mt. Everest and blast off to outer space from there.
Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again.
Is this robot named after Axel, the intrepid companion of his crackpot explorer uncle in Verne's Journey to the Centre of the Earth?
NASA was originally working on a standard walking robot for use delivering coffee and snacks to NASA employees. However, when it took a bad spill down five flights of stairs and was discovered to be still largely operational it was re-purposed as a 'mountain climbing robot'.
I have nothing compelling to say
When I read
"NASA researchers today said they had built and tested a robot that can rappel off cliffs, travel over steep and rocky terrain, and explore deep craters."
I immediately thought "How does this robot know what a good anchor is?" and after watching the video I have the second question "How does the robot get it's tether detached from the anchor?" I had to read the article and watch the video, that's not a "mountain climbing robot", it's a winch with a motor.
It looks like it is lowered down the cliff by a larger robot with a winch. That isn't really all that exciting, even if it can unhook itself at the bottom of the cliff, do a mission, find the rope again, and reattach itself.
That should be great for the explorations of earth volcanoes, and imagine for rescue missions in the most popular climbing locations.
sexconker: Have you ever seen that movie "UHF" by Wierd Al Yankovic? Remember the scene where he walks in and says "Hi, I'm the new boss!" and the secretary screams at him? "OOOOOOOoh, It's kind of HARD to be PROMOTED when EVERY WEEK you have a new boss!".
It feels a bit like being that secretary, to be working at NASA. Everyone thinks you can just "get people on mars already you assholes". Your budget is less than half of what's provided even to the federal highway administration who doesn't even have to leave our comfortable atmosphere to do their jobs. Hell, our budget this year is 0.009 percent of the cost of the two "stimulus packages" for banks and mortgage companies. That budget also must be split among your multiple "missions" - Science, Exploration, Aeronautics, etc. (By the way, robots play an important part in all of the missions, and researching them is critical).
Finally, you have not one boss but 500 or so, each of whom has different priorities for you and concerns that you spend your limited budget in THEIR district (not where it might be most appropriate) and EVERY 4 (or 8) years you have a new boss with a radically different direction for the 20-year program you're supposed to be completing. By the way, they can issue a memo and, poof, it's federal law now.
Sorry for going on a tangent but it really irritates me, comments like yours. There's plenty of valid criticisms for NASA that you could be throwing together in this topic and you chose a simplistic, uninformed and insulting tantrum.
To follow up on my own comment (doh!) here is a link to a document detailing recommendations to the obama administration for NASA..
Right on schedule, a radical restructuring recommendation.
I'm not commenting on the merits of this particular publication (could be great!!) but it certainly drives home the point I was making. It's hard to make progress on a 20 year program when your agency is radically "restructured" every 4 or 8 years.
A video of the system can be found here
Oh honey look... How cute... an angry slashdotter!
NASA plans to send Axel to Beverly Hills from their Detroit R&D facility to provide it with an environment in which it will have to adapt to its surroundings while facing certain danger at every turn. It will likely interact with two other robots, including "Billy the TALON/SWORDS robot", inexplicably equipped with a grenade launcher.
Finally I have some place to put my Spokey Dokes. For those born too late to enjoy this fad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spokey_Dokes
It looks like you're the one throwing the tantrum.
"Assholes" refers to the morons not properly funding NASA, as well as the morons allocating what funds there are toward any project that is not getting people to Mars.
It looks like you're the one throwing the tantrum.
"Assholes" refers to the morons not properly funding NASA, as well as the morons allocating what funds there are toward any project that is not getting people to Mars.
To a great extent, NASA may not have the authority NOT to allocate funds to any given project. The worth of the project notwithstanding (robotics work is critical for getting research and exploration done) a good number of projects are congressionally-mandated.
Here is one of many articles detailing the problem: http://www.allbusiness.com/government/elections-politics-politics-political-parties/10237821-1.html
Will we be able to defeat it when it undoubtedly turns against us?
I just ran a page search for the phrase "I for one..." and it wasn't there!
I...I don't know where I am anymore...
I'd just like to add that money used to 'rescue' AIG ($85B) is enough to fund NASA for five years at its current budget ($17B). They found that $85B in one weekend.
I did not climb Olympus Mons. But at least my Robby did :)
READ PLEASE.
"Assholes" refers to the morons not properly funding NASA, as well as the morons allocating what funds there are toward any project that is not getting people to Mars.
No where did I call anyone at NASA an asshole.
If there are people at NASA who could change things and don't, then yes, they're assholes.
You believe that the strings are pulled from where the money flows (and I agree). Those pulling the strings are the assholes.
I appreciate your clarification, but surely you can see where I didn't read your initial comment that way? All it said was "get people to mars, assholes". Had you said "Fund NASA properly so they can get people to mars, assholes" I would've had a totally different read on yoru comment.
There's plenty of valid criticisms for my succinct post that you could be throwing together in this topic and you chose a messy, presumptuous, and insulting tantrum.
boring troll is boring
FTA:
On Earth, Axel might assist in search-and-rescue operations in locations where people might not be able to reach.
Bollocks! It's a pair of wheels on a tether. It's not going to be any better than a human abseiling down a cliff face. It won't even be able to walk along ledges it encounters on the way down.
If you're interested in Axel, you should check out the Axel Homepage at Caltech. It has more information about the hardware, more movies, etc.
Slashdot might also be interested to know that Axel currently runs a stripped down version of Debian.
We are using lithium polymer batteries to power it right now. One of our current batteries will power Axel for about 20 minutes. With the current design we could easily fit two of these batteries inside, giving a running time of ~40 minutes.
It's important to note that Axel wraps the tether around it's own body. There's no winch at the top, just an anchor point. That anchor point could be a larger rover/lander or just a rock.
Martian robots are just PR stunts. The real exploration is made by spectrometers and complex experiences from orbiters. What ? the rover has seen some water ? Woohoo ! The orbiter has a map of the ice-water layer and an estimation of its quantity. Call me obtuse, but what is the scientific interest in having a mountain-climbing robot apart from the funky pictures that NASA will flood the net with ? Personally I would be more interested in a tunnel-digging robot (the start for the future colony !) but well... I wonder if the NASA Mars program is still scientific or just entertainment.
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
Here's a link to Nasa site about axel robot
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/podcasting/jpl-axel20090104.html
It seems to me it will never climb steep up hill.