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Utah Mulls a Database of Bar Customers

sundancing alerts us to a political dustup in the state of Utah, which doesn't have bars like the rest of the country does. Instead, "private clubs" require you to fill out an application and pay a fee if you want to have a drink outside the home. While there is pressure to reform this arrangement — one argument is that it's bad for tourism — the head of the state senate recently floated a proposal to create a database of every bar patron's visits. Now Utah's governor has called that idea "almost Orwellian," adding that "it's very difficult to legislate adulthood," and its supporters seem to be backing off. The idea of requiring bar patrons to swipe their drivers licenses as proof of age is still on the table, though.

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  1. Ob by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 5, Funny

    This idea is absolutely mormonic!

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    1. Re:Ob by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1, Funny

      I always wondered who slipped that second "m" in "moron".

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    2. Re:Ob by Hatta · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah! Get a brain mormans!

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    3. Re:Ob by bitrex · · Score: 3, Funny

      So, ever make fun of any Jews besides Jesus? Or do you just like blaspheming down the path of least resistance?

  2. Wait... by xpuppykickerx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tourism? In Utah?

  3. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like shaved pussy.

    I believe Utah requires a permit for that too.

  4. Re:Out of curiosity by rmadmin · · Score: 4, Funny

    I disagree. They obviously don't have time to commit crimes when they have 20 wives nagging at them.

  5. Re:Yeah... Ok by Shajenko42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hell, I'd actually prefer the firing squad myself -- I'm afraid of needles.

    I'm no fan of needles, but I'm also afraid of bullets.

    Oh, and death itself.

  6. Re:Out of curiosity by mbone · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm. I was curious too. From the most recent data I could find :

    Murder rate, 2007, Utah, per 100,000 : 2.2
    Murder rate, 2004, Germany, per 100,000 : 0.98
    Murder rate, 2002, Saudi Arabia, per 100,000 : 0.92

    So, clearly Utah is either too religious, or not religious enough. Or something.

  7. Re:Phelps poll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "They are very detached from the mainstream."

    So they are indie, non-conformists. I thought that was a good thing.

  8. Re:Out of curiosity by FredFredrickson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here's one that gets thrown around alot on /. - Correlation does not imply causation.

    The legislated morality may have very little to do with the crime rate. I mean, it's not a coincidence that Utah's overall violent crime rate is low- AND there's a ton of salt in their lake!

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  9. Re:Holy moly... by characterZer0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    These guys need to learn how to party like Lutherans.

    To eat casseroles, stare at their own feed, and mumble about the weather?

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  10. Re:Out of curiosity by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pork, corn, and bad driving: The secrets to a murder free lifestyle.

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  11. Re:Out of curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I disagree. They obviously don't have time to commit crimes when they have 20 wives nagging at them.

    If that were the case, you'd expect the murder rate to be much higher though, wouldn't you?

  12. Re:Holy moly... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 2, Funny

    They also limit the alcohol content of beer below a certain percentage. It's a rather strange state.

    This is the reason that many beers (such as Guinness) made for US export is capped at 4% abv. It's the maximum potency for the most restrictive of state laws (I believe Fl. to be the same).

    I'll see your 4% Florida, and raise you 3.2% Kansas!

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  13. Re:Phelps poll by edmicman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, with global warming causing icecaps to melt and whatnot, his crazy swimming abilities might actually have an evolutionary benefit! I, for one, welcome our half-fish super-fast-swimming overlords.

  14. Re:Bad for what tourism? by zindorsky · · Score: 3, Funny

    I honestly don't mean this as a troll, but seriously, how much non-Mormon tourism is there in Utah?

    Apparently a lot of people like to strap long slats to their feet and then hurtle down snow covered mountains at high speeds. Some say Utah is a good place to do this.

    Also, every January thousands of black-clad posers come and put on some kind of film festival. Something about dancing on the sun.

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  15. Re:Phelps poll by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our half-fish super-fast-swimming overlords.

    Kevin Costner?

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  16. Ah...Utah by techoi · · Score: 5, Funny

    You are still the only state that can, at times, makes us in Idaho feel a little less backwards. Thanks.

  17. Re:Out of curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Pork, corn, and bad driving: The secrets to a murder free lifestyle.

    You ain't kidding about the bad driving; IOWA on a license plate stands for "Idiots Out Wandering Around".

  18. Re:You're All Detached from the Mainstream by Tiger4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    proud to be part of that hip 10% who think or do something a different way

    Include me in. I too am part of the 90% that thinks they are in the top 10%.

    The rest of you losers are in the 10% that knows they are in the bottom 90%.

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  19. Re:Phelps poll by NormalVisual · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, "14 time Olympic gold medalist" does tend to add a bit of pop to the ol' resume/CV.

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  20. Re:Phelps poll by 2short · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Not to be a nitpicker"

    To be a nitpicker, this is an odd way to begin a sentence that is entirely being a nitpicker.

  21. Re:Phelps poll by The+Breeze · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our STONED half-fish super-fast-swimming overlords.

    There, fixed that for you.