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Utah Mulls a Database of Bar Customers

sundancing alerts us to a political dustup in the state of Utah, which doesn't have bars like the rest of the country does. Instead, "private clubs" require you to fill out an application and pay a fee if you want to have a drink outside the home. While there is pressure to reform this arrangement — one argument is that it's bad for tourism — the head of the state senate recently floated a proposal to create a database of every bar patron's visits. Now Utah's governor has called that idea "almost Orwellian," adding that "it's very difficult to legislate adulthood," and its supporters seem to be backing off. The idea of requiring bar patrons to swipe their drivers licenses as proof of age is still on the table, though.

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  1. welcome to the year 2009 by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Redundant

    theocracy is alive and well

    alcohol and marijuana are viewed as evil demonic scourges

    being gay is seen as a moral disease

    no, we're not in tehran

    we're in utah

    fucking pathetic

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  2. homosexuality is completely natural by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Redundant

    it has been observed extensively in hundreds of other animals, has been part of human behavior since before we even evolved to become humans- it occurs in all of our simian relatives, and is mentioned in historical texts from every culture that ever existed

    it is a sexual behavior. no worse than any heterosexual behavior or kink

    and yes, if everyone only engaged in homosexual behavior, humanity would go extinct. and? this a completely retarded observation. its like saying if everyone ate hot chilis we would all starve. humanity is never going to only eat chilis. humanity is never going to engage in homosexuality beyond 10% of the population. so what's your point in fearing or being hostile to the practice?

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    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it