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What Spoils a Game For You?

MTV's Multiplayer Blog is running an interesting piece about what constitutes a spoiler in video games. The interactivity of a video games, argues the author, often makes it necessary to spoil or reveal at least general characteristics of a game during a review or other informative article. He says, "I believe that writing about games is overly careful. I believe that game scripts, game plots and game endings have been given a pass because critics tend to avoid them or address them with the most ginger touch. I'd at least like the discussion about spoilers to cease being so binary. There is room between avoiding mentioning a plot event and reporting its main details. There is value to addressing anything and everything that is most interesting in a game, and value in doing it with words that express meaning rather than those designed to mask it." So, what do you consider a spoiler for a video game, and how do they affect your enjoyment of the game?

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  1. Reporting about plot twists by derfy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does it for me.

  2. What really gets my goat? by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Funny

    The worst part about people spoiling a game for you is them telling you that Aeris dies.

    1. Re:What really gets my goat? by Animaether · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And time passed validates spoiling something for somebody.. how?

      Let's say MindlessAutomata never played the Final Fantasy games.. he'd heard about them in the past, heard they were pretty good, but really he was out and about playing... I don't know, baseball. Whatever. But he grows too old for the game and they kick him out. Too bad, so sad. So what's he to do.. books, sure.. maybe some TV.. but then he thinks back to those computer games and figures 'hell, why not' and gets a buddy to drag over his old PS1 and a bunch of games including Final Fantasy VII. So he sits there on the couch, playing the game for the first time ever, enjoying it (presumably) and getting quite captivated by it.

      Then YOU walk in and tell him "oh hey, fun game, eh? Yeah, Aeris dies."

      See how f'ed up that is?

      As far as Titanic goes.. that's not a spoiler. Even if you'd never heard of the Titanic, if you watch the movie for the first time, it becomes clear pretty early on that the damn thing will sink. But tell somebody who's never seen the movie that Jack dies, and I think they may be a bit miffed with you.

  3. A Different type of spoiler by powerspike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think one of the worse type's of spoilers, which has really come out on the wii (and some of the other console games), is with casual games, having to spend 10-20+ hours unlocking content for a game that is a "casual" game, that really spoils it. Seriously, if i'm only playing a game here and there like an hour a week, on some games it can take years to unlock it all.

    1. Re:A Different type of spoiler by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From another angle, that's a 'spoiler' I'd like the game reviewers to give me. For example:

      "In Singstar, all songs are unlocked and playable from the start, and even if one doesn't sing, the song will always complete."

      "In Brain Age, while the initial few games are fun, you won't get to play the more enticing games until you've ... which takes about ... days of playing."

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  4. DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I won't even buy it if it is infected with DRM.

  5. Hold it to the same standard as movies.. by spiffmastercow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When reading a review about a game, I want to know what the game is about, in a general sense. I don't need specific details, but I do want somebody to tell me if the end game isn't worth my time. Its certainly a grey area when deciding how much info is too much, but movie critics have been doing it for years.

  6. DRM by aerthling · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Until recently I viewed the vitriol spewed by anti-DRM zealots with mild suprise. I'd never really felt it was all that bad. Then I bought and installed Bioshock. CD keys and mild disc protection I can live with, but those PLUS activation PLUS forcing a 10MB patch download every single time the game is installed took my breath away. After a few hours trying to install it under Wine I was ready to put my foot through my screen.

    THAT ruined Bioshock for me. Spoilers I don't really mind.

  7. Re:A few talking points to jot down here... by xstonedogx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hate games with no ending!

  8. IMHO it's more complex by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IMHO it's more complex than "don't write about plot twists", and as the summary notes, some games have gotten a free pass with some really bad ones just so the reviewer doesn't spoil it. Basically I'd propose the following distinction, and IMHO it's a major one:

    A) Telling me _what_ the plot twist is. Bad.

    B) Telling me about the quality of plot twists and their implementation. Good.

    Basically I don't want to know stuff like "it turns out you're the feared Sith Lord", but I do want to know if, say, the plot twists are cliches that you can see coming a whole disk before they actually happen.

    Also, I don't really mind examples if:

    A) They happen in the first half an hour of the game anyway, so it's not like it's such a major loss. The rest of a game _should_ still be enjoyable even if I know what happens in the tutorial. Or,

    B) Even the most cursory read of the manual would reveal the same information. I mean, seriously, e.g., in Persona 2 Eternal Punishment you only needed to have played the previous game or read the manual to know what's with Maia or the mysterious boy. But in game for your characters that comes very very late. So basically the manual itself spoils a major element of the plot. Obviously the designers didn't mind you knowing that.

    Should a reviewer really avoid it for those who can't be bothered to read the first 3 pages of the manual? (Then again, I doubt that _some_ people can read more than a paragraph;)

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    1. Re:IMHO it's more complex by mdarksbane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On other hand, even knowing that there *is* a major twist can completely change how you watch something.

      SPOILER WARNING (sortof)

      Before I watched Fight Club, someone had given me vague ideas that the twist was good, so I was watching the whole movie for the twist, and figured it out about a half hour before anyone else in the room did, and long before the movie actually presents it to you. Whereas when I watched the Sixth Sense, I knew nothing about the movie going in, and the twist caught me completely by surprise. You watch clues in a movie very differently when you know you should be looking for them.

      There's a scene in FEAR where the lights go out in an elevator, and suddenly the antagonist is standing right next to you in it, with nowhere to go and nothing you can do to save yourself. Some of my (admittedly, younger) friends literally fell out of their chairs during that scene, then talked about it incessantly for weeks. By the time I played the game and got there, my only reaction was "hey, this is that elevator scene they were talking about. Yeah, I can see this being a little creepy."

      What I'm saying is that little innocuous bits of knowledge can completely change how you approach something, because the way you have a good twist or surprise in a movie/video game is by leading up to it with other innocuous bits of information that you aren't supposed to know that you need to pay attention to. That way when it happens, everything "clicks" in your head, and the twist makes sense, but you don't come to the proper conclusion more than a couple seconds or minutes before it is revealed. Just knowing that you need to be paying attention to those details makes it a completely different experience.

  9. So many things... by cowbutt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...but in roughly descending order

    1. Bugs that randomly result in lost progress; crashes, getting trapped in scenery, etc.
    2. Having to 'earn' saves. If I'm playing a game on my own system, in my own time, I should be able to save when I like. Maybe earnt saves are acceptable for younger gamers, but when you're an adult, you can't necessarily commit to spending upwards of 30 minutes in one chunk on a game without an opportunity to save.
    3. If the game has a single track, then not making it clear where the current barrier to be overcome is located. Leave it to me to figure out how, but at least let me know that I'm banging my head against the right brick wall.
    4. Making me repeat far too much tedious stuff in order to get to the point where I failed last time.
    5. Not allowing me to skip tutorials/intro/cutscenes.
    6. Inappropriate or clumsy use of 3D when 2D (or constrained 3D, at least) might well have made things more fun.
    7. To get back on-topic, reviews which reveal solutions to puzzles, or story endings. :-)