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Russia's Operating System May Be Fedora Based

Glyn Moody writes "Last month, a story about Russia producing its own national operating system based on GNU/Linux started circulating. Now there's some confirmation, and details of how the plan might be put into practice. Red Hat had a meeting with the Russian communications ministry, which announced that the development of free software in Russia was one of its priorities. One concrete idea they talked about was using the Russian Fedora project as a step towards creating a national operating system."

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  1. RED Hat, come on ppl by cwrinn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, Duh, it's Red. :D

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    1. Re:RED Hat, come on ppl by GreatRedShark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe they'll rename it Red Ushanka! :P

    2. Re:RED Hat, come on ppl by The+Moof · · Score: 3, Informative

      Come on, you're at Slashdot. It's always the lame joke.

  2. Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. by Nimey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't know why they'd pick the unstable beta distro to do it, though. Ought to use the Russian version of CentOS or Ubuntu LTS.

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    1. Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. by Tet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fedora != unstable.

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  3. Dostoevsky warned of this by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Consider that Raskolnikov was only an outlaw because he believed himself to be such. If he hadn't had the guilty conscience, the authorities never would have caught up with him. They believed that the painters had done the crime, and had the confession to prove it.

    But all men who are good at heart love honesty, and though Raskolnikov was able to commit murder, he was unable to maintain the lie which he had constructed.

    In much the same vein, Javert was able to break his case against Jean Valjean because though a criminal, Valjean was never the hardened criminal he was portrayed to be.

    In short, Russian Linux is likely to suck.

  4. You are kidding arent you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services?

    That sounds preposterous to me.

    If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.

    Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.

    Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer fron start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.

    I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.

    1. Re:You are kidding arent you? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whoa whoa whoa.

      Windows is still there. Linux runs on top of it.

    2. Re:You are kidding arent you? by UberMorlock · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm certain you earned a whooooosh.

    3. Re:You are kidding arent you? by Spatial · · Score: 3, Informative
    4. Re:You are kidding arent you? by Alphanos · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mrs. Windows left Mr. Windows for Linux. That's why Linux works with Mrs. X-Windows.

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  5. USSR by MazzThePianoman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great, Linux was doing so well until it caused the 2nd rise of the USSR.

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    1. Re:USSR by AragornSonOfArathorn · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, finally, those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh? Eh, comrades? Eh?

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    2. Re:USSR by tcopeland · · Score: 3, Funny

      Er, Austin... we won!

  6. Fedora not a good choice by messner_007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am using Fedora from the start and I like it very much, but I don't think its philosophy is suitable for a "national" distribution.

    Fedora is created for testing, not for everyday usage for normal people (not neerds). I think even using Fedora qualify you as a nerd. OK, it gets even worse if you are using alpha's.

    Using Fedora will cripple their productivity and they will start to hate Linux.

    If they want to use Linux for serious stuff, like "national distribution", then they should chose another distro.

  7. Re:In soviet russia... by dotancohen · · Score: 4, Funny

    But why Fedora?

    Because only in the Russian language are there enough curse words to accurately describe yum breaking X.org, the video drivers, and itself after downloading 450 MB of updates because you didn't update in two weeks.

    That was FC6, and F7 would not install on my Inspiron (driving me to Kubuntu). I love Fedora to death, but it is _not_ for your daily driver! Unless you happen to speak a language where every tangible noun can be made into a curse word. Pizdyetz!

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  8. Re:Keep your head down by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Original content? No, I don't think there will be any of that for this story. There really isn't anything insightful or informative to say. Leaving everyone to come up with some misguided attempt at creating a joke that isn't completely expected.

    You know something like

    Q: Why did the chicken cross the road
    A: Because Russia, a formerly communist nation, has decided to go with a national operating system that forms the basis for a different operating system called Red Hat. And Red is the main color associated with Communism in general. Which makes this joke funny. Also, chickens are in a constant state of motion. They don't really have a set destination in mind, and just wander aimlessly most of the time. So its more of a question of why it wasn't in its coop and what lazy farmer couldn't be bothered to care for his farm animals, than why it an animal with no cognitive power of its own to speak of crossed any kind of a road.

    See, not the least bit funny. There should be an editor level feature that only allows for negative moderation on stories. So then the competition amongst the attention seekers would be to see who could write the most bland, non attempt at any horrible run on jokes/memes comments.

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  9. Obligitory by FireStormZ · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its not a Russian OS, its a Russian Distribution...

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  10. No Files by tripmine · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was hoping Russia's OS would be based on not having files :(

  11. Of *course* it's the OS for the Russian Fedoration by mujadaddy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thank you, I'll be here all week!

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  12. For the sake of god! by Sam+Lowry · · Score: 3, Informative

    Guys, there is a dozen of Linux distros is Russia. AltLinux is the most known, but there are also ASPLinux, Linux XP and a military classified . All the distro developers and lots of system integrators are in the battle for the state funding right now, so do not expect to know now what will the Russian national OS be tomorrow.

  13. Let's start a Sputnik-like race! by openfrog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First, I would like to see comments on Slashdot cease referring to "the Reds" as if the USSR was still in existence. Are some Slashdotters actually young enough to have no memory of 1989-1990??? However and that being said, if Russia goes ahead with this project, it would be clever to agitate for a Sputnik-like panic and suggest that America must beat them to the goal of free software, as the thing that will propel humanity into the future.

  14. Re:Keep your head down by daveime · · Score: 5, Funny

    In quantum chicken physics, the two states are :-

    1) About to cross the road
    2) Groaning at the awful punchline

    The trick is to try and observe the former state, thus collapsing the waveform so that the latter state cannot happen.

  15. Re:It's Simple Really by El+Lobo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Now, jokes aside, a "national OS", whatever it is, is always a terrible idea. I've lived in Russia from 1988 to 2003, and I know the russian idiosyncrasy, and especially, the russian organs of powers and bureaucracy so well, that I'd be damed if this will not turn up to be just another dictatorial directive: only the "Russian OS" should be used at schools and educational institutions. Only the "Russian OS" must be officially supported in governmental offices. Only the "Russian OS" should be.-.. etc.

    Now , whatever this OS is based on, that kind of "official" monopoly is NEVER a good idea. A standard is one thing. An *imposed* standard by the government is just too much.

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  16. russian point of view by anjolio · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey guys, here is my point of view from Russia:

    1. First of all jokes about communism and Red OS are not funny (here), we fed of them a lot, really. It was finished 18 years ago, maybe enough?
    2. Really "red" meant "beautiful" about 2 centuries ago in russian. Borsch is very tasteful! (:
    3. Russian linux community has a lot of discussions about this theme. A lot of people think that most effective action is spending money on current russian open source developers to improve international software. Of course we need better localizations in some cases. In my point of view it's the best way, but..
    4. Government need to see a real result, such as rusisian OS, so as I think, they would not spend money on current developers and try to create new team with it's own distribution, or, maybe, to spend money on one of current russian distributions (ALT Linux is the likely one, as I see).
    5. Windows is really looks like free OS now here, about 95% of home users have pirate version. I think something should be done and linux is the best way.
    6. Actually nobody knows here (except government :) what this OS will look like: will it be just another linux distro, or will it be OS based on linux, but with closed sources. Everybody understand it will not be a new OS, it's really impossible.
  17. Hunt for the RED October by w0mprat · · Score: 3, Funny
    No one has anything particularly insightful to say therefore we end up with lame checkbox humour.

    Checkbox humour? I'm glad you asked, you know what I mean like:

    Slashdot Posting Form

    [ ] TFA is a troll
    [ ] Get off grass
    [ ] Did anyone else read that as...
    [ ] _______ ^H^H^H^H^H ________
    [x] In soviet russia ...
    [ ] IANAL, but...
    ...

    Somehow we got on to Quantum Poultridynamics, Chicken entrail entanglement is interesting however, may lead to a method of predicting future.

    Seriously, this article is a masterful slashdot troll!

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  18. Re:It's Simple Really by mormop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Agreed, monopoly isn't good but if you are a country that doesn't always see eye to eye with the home nation of the world's most widespread software manufacturer then breaking away to a system that allows to not only view the source code but also compile it from scratch into a distro of your own making is an extremely attractive proposition.

    I'm not saying that Windows contains back doors and switches but once you stir DRM into the equation, a tap of a key in a far off country could cripple your economy, military and/or governmental services in the event of a trade war or other stand off. Once you have a national system, you can then use the "we must train school kids to use the software they'll encounter in the real world" excuse that Microsoft has traded off of for so long.

    As Microsoft discovered early on, people will mostly use the same software at home that they have at work so there'll probably be a boom in the Linux userbase.

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