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WSJ Says Gov't Money Injection Won't Help Broadband

olddotter writes "According to the WSJ, The US government is about to spend $10 Billion to make little difference in US broadband services: 'More fundamentally, nothing in the legislation would address the key reason that the US lags so far behind other countries. This is that there is an effective broadband duopoly in the US, with most communities able to choose only between one cable company and one telecom carrier. It's this lack of competition, blessed by national, state and local politicians, that keeps prices up and services down.' Get ready for USDA certified Grade A broadband."

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  1. Cognitive dissonance... by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the WSJ, viewed by slashdotters as a heavily conservative news source, is advocating a position that most slashdotters agree with?

    Head explosions commencing in 3...2...1...

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    1. Re:Cognitive dissonance... by Who+Is+The+Drizzle · · Score: 5, Informative
      Actually the article had an anti-net neutrality bent which would put it against many slashdotters.

      The House bill also calls for "open access." This phrase can include hugely controversial topics such as net neutrality, which in its most radical version would bar providers from charging different amounts for different kinds of broadband content. Now that video, conferencing and other heavy-bandwidth applications are growing in popularity, price needs to be one tool for allocating scarce resources. Analysts at Medley Global Advisors warn that if these provisions remain in the bill, "it will keep most broadband providers out of the applicant pool" for the funds intended specifically for them.

    2. Re:Cognitive dissonance... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Informative

      >>>Actually, the major problem with the US is distance. Japan is the size of California, France is 4/5th the size of Texas

      And population. When you compare the U.S. states versus the EU states, we're not being bad at all. We have states that every bit as fast as Europe's fastest:

      FASTEST STATES (avg Mbps)
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      Sweden(11)
      Delaware(10)
      Washington(9)
      Netherlands, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Massachusetts(8)
      Virginia, New York ,Colorado, Connecticut, Arizona, Germany(7)

      So if you want speeds faster than France, move to the one of the places listed above. It's that simple. Of course at this point, various readers will ignore this data, the same way a christian ignores 1 million-year-old rocks with fossilized animals. It's easier to cling to religion than think.

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  2. Re:WTF? by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The way to stimulate the economy is to get the banks lending [slashdot.org] again and get consumers spending again.

    Ah, the hair of the dog. Wasn't it poor lending standards and people living beyond their means (i.e: greed on everyone's part) that got us into this mess? Just once I'd like to hear somebody talking about people needing to save in addition to talking about them needing to spend....

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  3. Re:Right Wing Nuts by amuro98 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What, they have a point. If companies were competing freely, instead of this messed up system of little fiefdoms we have now, you can bet that you'd see Comcast and Time Warner trying to outdo each other, while AT&T and Verizon raced to shove fiber everywhere. Remember - competition is good for the consumer. It forces companies to innovate or die, while keeping prices low.

    But as it stands now, you basically have "The cable company" or "The phone company". Even independent DSL providers are still using the copper run by The Phone Company, and often costs more than if you got DSL from them directly.

    Even the Economist points out that this stimulus package probably won't have the effect Obama is hoping for because the companies will simply sit back and wait for the government to pay them for the upgrades they would have had to pay for themselves.

    The way I see it, the only way things will change is through good old capitalist competition. Someone needs to really step in with a reliable WiMAX solution for about $25/mo, and seriously start sucking business away from the DSL/Cable duopolies. In fact I'm rather surprised the cell phone companies aren't trying to jump into the residential data market. They already have the little notebook dongles, just shove that into an antenna you set on your roof (for better reception) and plug it into your router. Better yet, offer residential phone service over this as well, and really put a dent in the landline and cable telephony companies.

  4. Re:So we've got a duopoly by Hatta · · Score: 5, Informative

    We already paid $200 billion for a nation wide fiber optics network that never delivered. When is anyone going to ask what happened to all that money?

    We paid for nation wide fiber optics, and it never got delivered. The telcos should give us our money back, all of it. If they can't afford it, go bankrupt, get nationalized, and let someone competent take over. Oh, and send the execs who squandered it all to jail.

    Not one red cent should go to the telcos until they pay back what we're owed.

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  5. Re:Right Wing Nuts by deraj123 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And if you happen to live in an area that isn't profitable to run service to I suppose you should just move then, right?

    Yes. Just because you want the benefits of living further from other people, don't expect me to subsidize the costs that decision incurs.

  6. Re:I used to read the WSJ by shma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oddly enough, most so-called "conservatives" today are actually from what, classically, is the center of the political spectrum. It just doesn't look that way because so much of the major media outlets are hard-core lefties claiming that they are the "center."

    Actually, both American political parties are what most of the rest of the world would call right wing parties. Just a few examples: neither party argues against unfettered capitalism (although you're starting to hear some from the public after the events of the last six months), neither party argues against massive military spending, neither party argues for gay marriage, and neither party argues for more liberal drug laws.

    You may honestly believe that the country is in the hands of left wing lunatics, but let me assure you that, by international standards, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are left wing.

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  7. Re:And they'd be right by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Stimlus spending didn't cure the Great Depression. Admirers of the New Deal take great offense at the notion that the New Deal was a failure in reversing the Depression, but even left-leaning historians and economists agree that it was WWII production, not the New Deal, that finally brought us out of the depression.

    The main difference between the New Deal spending and the WWII spending is that the WWII spending was even more massive and with much greater government control. For example, wages and benefits for a large proportion of workers were set by government regulators. What could be produced was set by government bureaucrats. During WWII, the domestic economy was something approaching a Communist command economy.

    So if WWII-style spending is what gets us out of a Depression, then expect more government control than you have in the current stimulus bill, not less.

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