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Author's Guild Says Kindle's Text-To-Speech Software Illegal

Mike writes "The Author's Guild claims that the new Kindle's text-to-speech software is illegal, stating that 'They don't have the right to read a book out loud,' said Paul Aiken, executive director of the Authors Guild. 'That's an audio right, which is derivative under copyright law.' Forget for a moment that text-to-speech doesn't copy an existing work. And forget the odd notion that the artificial enunciation of plain text is equivalent to a person's nuanced and emotive reading. The Guild's claim is that even to read out loud is a production akin to an illegal copy, or a public performance."

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  1. Wow, kicking blind people. A new low by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure the blind have been using this sort of software for years, in fact I'm sure of it. Are they also going to threaten Apple and all the other software vendors who supply this much-needed resource for the blind? Did they even *think* about the deeper implications of what they're saying before firing the opening volley in what is, at its heart, a blatantly pissy money grab?

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  2. Absolutely Ridiculous. by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All this revolves around are audio books sales. Forget the fact that right now synthesized text to speech is painful to listen vs a human voice, this is just another case of technology slowly making one industry obsolete.

    They might as well sue teachers or those libraries that offer children's programs by reading a book out loud.

    They say nothing makes more problems than solutions, and I feel the concept of intellectual property taking this to extreme.

  3. Voice Web Browsers by footnmouth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this meant that my blind friends who use JAWS to read websites are breaking the law or infringing copyrights? Another excuse for a lawsuit or settlement...

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  4. Accessibility, anyone? by Almonday · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So waitaminute...by Aiken's logic, wouldn't screen readers and other accessibility tools fall under this category as well? That's a losing battle if ever I've seen one...urm, heard one.

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  5. Not what it looks like by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "They don't have the right to read a book out loud," said Paul Aiken, executive director of the Authors Guild. "That's an audio right, which is derivative under copyright law."

    I'm sitting here thinking that no lawyer could possibly be dumb enough to advise their client with this legal theory. Even if we accept this concept at face value (which it does have some value related to public performances and derivitive works), fair use throws a huge monkey wrench into any potential lawsuits. Courts have repeatedly held up that once you are sold a copy of a product, you are entititled to privately do whatever you want with it. That includes space and time shifting. Text to speech is just another type of space shifting. i.e. Moving from one medium to another.

    Then I realized that there's no way Mr. Aiken is serious about these threats. He's posturing in an attempt to force Amazon to rethink the text-to-speech in light of their audio book business. This becomes especially clear based on the response from an Amazon spokesperson:

    An Amazon spokesman noted the text-reading feature depends on text-to-speech technology, and that listeners won't confuse it with the audiobook experience. Amazon owns Audible, a leading audiobook provider.

    So never fear! The world isn't quite upside down yet. This is just business as usual. Someone's trying to play a weak hand and hopes the other side folds. (Good luck with that.)

  6. Epic battle incoming... by goodmanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ladies and gentlemen! A full-contact legal battle for the ages!

    In this corner, we have the Author's Guild, with the full weight of American copyright law behind them.

    And in this corner, we've got the National Federation for the Blind, swinging a big stick: the Americans with Disabilities Act!

    Gentlemen ... FIGHT!

  7. Re:To hell with them! by orclevegam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nah, it's the same general issue of space shifting as has already been addressed time and again (and either upheld or not in various cases). They'll lose this one, as if you already have it on the kindle you bought it (in theory) and therefore have the right to space shift that copyrighted work into whatever form you want. It's really no different than ripping a CD to a mp3 and then loading it on your MP3 player. Think of it this way, both audio recording, and printed text are just different encoded forms of the same underlying concepts. There is some argument against performing a piece, but in having a personal ebook device read you its contents that's clearly designed for personal use not performance to a large audience, and therefore covered under fair use.

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  8. How do they respond to the ADA... by HikingStick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How do they respond to the ADA and various regulations that mandate things like designing websites so that they can be read by screen readers? How's this any different from that? Just think--millions and millions of parents are now copyright infringers for reading "Goodnight Moon" or "The Cat in the Hat" to their kids!

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  9. Re:To hell with them! by Xest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nope, I couldn't see that they should change at all.

    Millions of kids read their kids bed time stories, many elderly people like to have stories read to them, why should a machine doing it suddenly require a whole new licensing regime? Or if this is already illegal then there's already something severely messed up with the laws surrounding written works.

    They should be happy, it means blind people can also now buy books and get some use out of them.

  10. Re:To hell with them! by TheSambassador · · Score: 5, Insightful

    LOL! Reading aloud breaks encryption? I love life right now.

  11. Re:To hell with them! by nametaken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The closest example I can think of is buying a Harry Potter book and reading it to your kids.

    As one of my old bosses used to say so frequently, "Fuck you, sue me."

  12. I have a suggestion by Moryath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Basic suggestion: get 50 people. Go to the "Author's Guild" offices, stage a sit-in, and everyone start reading some book aloud.

    To make it REALLY funny, make it a freely-available Creative Commons book. Maybe Free Culture by Lessig.

  13. Re:To hell with them! by pacinpm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think many of Slashdotters miss the point. I get it like this: 1) there are two types of channels text and audio 2) if Amazon buys a right to distribute a book as text this does not give them right to distribute it as audio 3) introducing text2speach makes textbook dangerously close to audiobook 4) they just want Amazon to pay for two licences instead of one 5) this has nothing to do with end user which has all the rights to convert text to speach

  14. Re:To hell with them! by CarpetShark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is the purpose of the "read out loud" right?

    Three reasons spring to mind:

    * Discrimination against blind users
    * Disregard for fair use in copyright law
    * Dinosaur-like worldviews
    * Dinosaur-like brains

  15. Re:To hell with them! by joebok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Realistically, I think they are worried about audio book sales. I know lots of commuters that churn through a lot of audio books. The read-aloud feature of the Kindle might make a dent in those sales.

    I don't think they are on very good legal ground - we shall see.

  16. Re:To hell with them! by essinger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are missing the point that Amazon is selling the works as both text and audio when they have a contract to only sell text. That Amazon is touting the Kindles ability to translate text to audio as a reason to buy the Kindle demonstrates that Amazon thinks they are selling you something in addition to text. The authors do not a problem with the reader translating a book aloud, but they have a problem with someone they have a contract with to sell text-only versions of a work (and with whom they have separate audio version contracts) selling text plus audio versions. It is a contract issue.

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  18. Re:To hell with them! by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The authors do not a problem with the reader translating a book aloud, but they have a problem with someone they have a contract with to sell text-only versions of a work (and with whom they have separate audio version contracts) selling text plus audio versions. It is a contract issue.

    There's no issue. If I have a contract which allows me to sell frozen burritos, but not ready-to-eat burritos, selling frozen burritos along with a microwave (which turns them into ready-to-eat burritos) doesn't violate the contract.

  19. Re:To hell with them! by Richy_T · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're not even distributing it as text. They are distributing it as a modulated electronic signal which the kindle stores, interprets and displays as text.

  20. Why the Guild's Position is in Our Best Interests by sampson7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Guild may actually have the more "just" position. Authors, with the exception of that rare 1 percent of best sellers, are not particularly well compensated. They do it because they love the profession and have some uncomfortable compulsion that makes them write, despite a average hourly salary measure in pennies.

    Currently, a mid-level author has several payment streams potentially -- one from the books themselves and one from audio recordings. The Kindle threatens to eliminate one of those payment streams. Will the world really be better off if writers get paid less than they already are?

    I think the Guild is doing exactly what any membership organization should do -- advocate for its members.

  21. Re:To hell with them! by Curtman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess blind people are S.O.L. as well. If synthesised reading aloud of a book is illegal, that alone takes away a powerful tool they use to interact with the world.

    Shhhhh: nobody tell them about text-to-braille.

  22. Re:Not actually the closest example. by immcintosh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That makes no sense, and has nothing to do with the matter at hand. This has nothing to do with "public performances," and is actually about "derivative works." Two TOTALLY different things. Did you even read the article? Because it's quite clear that the argument is about audio derivatives, not public performances, and your claim doesn't even really make much sense if you consider the legal definition of "public performance."

    To clarify and educate; the Author's Guild is claiming that the Kindle's text-to-speech feature effectively is creating audio "derivative works," whenever it's employed, and copyright law reserves the right to audio derivatives for the author. This has nothing to do with public performances, and I don't know where you got that idea.