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Author's Guild Says Kindle's Text-To-Speech Software Illegal

Mike writes "The Author's Guild claims that the new Kindle's text-to-speech software is illegal, stating that 'They don't have the right to read a book out loud,' said Paul Aiken, executive director of the Authors Guild. 'That's an audio right, which is derivative under copyright law.' Forget for a moment that text-to-speech doesn't copy an existing work. And forget the odd notion that the artificial enunciation of plain text is equivalent to a person's nuanced and emotive reading. The Guild's claim is that even to read out loud is a production akin to an illegal copy, or a public performance."

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  1. To hell with them! by FredFredrickson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do you hear the sound of the words echo through your head as you read words, like me? Well, as the copyright owner of this comment, I forbid such usage- and deny you the ablity to read this comment out loud to your friends either.

    Seriously though, despite this being a rediculous idea, what is the Authors' Guild actually trying to do here?
    I mean, if anybody is really pushing to create more copyright holder rights, it's Amazon and the Kindle. Let's review...

    -The right to not let my friends borrow my book when I'm finished reading it? Check.
    -The right to not resell my book on the used books market when I'm done? Check.
    -The right to having access to my books revoked on a whim if my provider goes out of business, or *gasp* decides it's not a profitable market (MSN Music, I'm looking at you)? Check.

    With all these rights landgrabs that Amazon is making with their digital books on Amazon (and heck, digital media in general), I'd assumed they were colluding with the Author's Guild. I mean, if nobody can share your books, and nobody can help spread the buzz surrounding your great ideas or fiction... that means you'll make more sales... right?

    To hell with all of them. I'll read quietly, or out loud when ever I please. And just for being assholes, I'm going to pirate the next book published by a guild author. And I'm going to listen to Microsoft Sam read it to me. And I'm going to pretend to like it.

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    1. Re:To hell with them! by dmomo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What is the purpose of the "read out loud" right? Because reading out loud would be an interpretation and infringe on the art? What about a monotone voice, like text to speech?

      What happens, however when the tech gets so good that it can read with emotion.. better yet, mimick the voice of any person we choose? Do the rules then change?

    2. Re:To hell with them! by onion2k · · Score: 5, Interesting

      what is the Authors' Guild actually trying to do here?

      Make more money for the Authors' Guild. This has absolutely nothing to do with authors, writers, publishers, editors, or anyone who reads books. This is solely the money-grabbing greed of Paul Aiken and his cronies. If I were an employee of the guild I would be so ashamed of Aiken's comments I'd resign. This man, despite his apparent position representing authors, is actually against people enjoying books.

    3. Re:To hell with them! by tritonman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I can only imagine what impact this has on the world of 508 software, which is used to read stuff to the blind. I guess the author's guild don't give a rats ass about blind people.

    4. Re:To hell with them! by eln · · Score: 5, Interesting

      IANAL, but I'd imagine the purpose of the read out loud right is to protect playwrights from having people perform their plays without permission or compensation. In that context, it makes sense. In the context of a text to speech computer intended for personal use, it makes no sense.

      Sure, if someone starts hooking their Kindle up to a PA system and staging public performances of an electronic reading of someone's book, I could see an issue. However, the device itself having the ability to read text back is not in itself any kind of violation. Computers have had text to speech in some form for decades, and I'm sure they've been used to "speak" copyrighted works plenty of times in the past.

      The Author's Guild is cutting off its nose to spite its face here.

    5. Re:To hell with them! by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You have no idea.

      When looking for schoolbooks for the severely dyslexic little brother of a friend we tried looking for audio books. Turned out there was an organisation which used to deal with that here. Notice "was".

      For schoolbooks which had no audio book available from the publisher they'd got teachers who volunteered to record audio books for blind students.

      Guess what the publishers thought of that.

      Now they aren't allowed hand out recordings to blind students and the publishers aren't interested in making or distributing any since the market is so small.

      As far as rights holders are concerned the disabled can go fuck themselves.

    6. Re:To hell with them! by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So should someone sue the guild, for not being accessible for the blind? Most blind books are not released for ages after the original. The read out loud feature could be seen as an accessibility tool, like the screen reader in XP.

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    7. Re:To hell with them! by nabsltd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In the digital age, copyright is all about contracts.

      When Amazon sells you a hardcopy book, they don't need any permission to copy the book because they don't create the copy. When they sell you a Kindle book, they create the copy themselves, so they need a contract that grants them that right.

    8. Re:To hell with them! by BlueStrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      LOL! Reading aloud breaks encryption? I love life right now.

      Wait. It gets better.

      Since that means that a person uses their brain to "decrypt" the content, then a human brain could be considered an illegal circumvention device. Would proof of illiteracy be enough to get charges dropped? Will they simply put up prison walls around the entire country?

      Oh, wait...they're already doing that. Walls in data and communications. Walls in ideas and music. Walls in personal rights and equal protection under the law. Walls between your right to property you own and governments' right to take it away and give it to someone with more money.

      [sarcasm]
      But, what the hey? As long as there's cable TV who's going to make that much fuss about all that stuff those nerds and geeks go on about.
      [/sarcasm]

      Between the dumbing-down of the population along with the desensitization to political corruption that have both been happening for many decades, I'm afraid the majority of people don't know, don't care, and don't want to know or care.

      On top of all that, they're too busy trying to cope and help their families cope with living and paying bills when they have less and less coming in, jobs getting scarce, prices going up, and government taking an ever-larger bite from their wages.

      Strat

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  2. Hogwash by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sometimes I read a portion of a book out loud - to myself - in order to slow down my thought processes. It is akin, I think, to taking notes when being lectured. The act of reading out loud alters both the rate and the quality of my understanding of the text.

    Which, according to Paul Aiken, means I'm a criminal.

    Speaking as the owner of one of the oldest SF-specialized literary agencies in the country, and as someone who is quite interested in protecting author's rights for all the obvious reasons, I think Aiken has fallen off the cognitive cliff, and that he does no one - not authors, not consumers, not publishers - any favors by pushing this over-the-top interpretation of what an "audio performance" is.

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  3. Right to read? by solaraddict · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is indeed the road to Tycho.

  4. Re:Wow, kicking blind people. A new low by mea37 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was in high school, the director of our AV department waged a protracted battle with me over my making enlarged copies of sheet music in the orchestra. Never mind that this was a matter of vision accessability. Never mind that the school had allocated me a legitimately-purchased original, just as they did for each other student. Never mind that academic fair use would have been squarely in play even if the above hadn't been true, and certainly never mind that the law specifically forbade the reasoning behind his theory as to why fair use shouldn't apply.

    I probably should've sued the district, but that's not how I roll.

    My point, though, is this: There are indeed a subset of the population that believe content authors should have the right to profit from the fact that some customers have differing needs in how they can view said content. "You can't buy the regular edition and adapt it to your needs; you have to buy the special high-priced usable-by-you edition (if we bother to make one)".

  5. Re:I have a suggestion by VJ42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Or more appropriately, Dracula. Out of copyright and freely available as an e-book.

    Just play the Free audio book.

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