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Court Rules Autism Not Caused By Childhood Vaccine

wiredog writes "From The Washington Post comes word that three special masters have decided that MMR vaccines do not cause autism. 'Special master George Hastings said the parents ... had "been misled by physicians who are guilty, in my view, of gross medical misjudgment." ... "the evidence advanced by the petitioners has fallen far short of demonstrating ... a link."'

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  1. Re:Supreme Court Ruling... by prgrmr · · Score: 5, Informative

    The courts are evaluating methods and conclusions, not doing the actual research. They don't have to have medical degrees or be doctors, just understand enough science to comprehend the scientific method and enough math to follow the statistics. This follows the same argument that one shouldn't have to be a doctor to take medicines correctly, or have to be a lawyer to follow any given law.

  2. Re: Courts by assert(0) · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. Re:Well then by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Informative

    The reason that vaccines are mandated is very simple, herd immunity. Herd immunity is what lets people that can't get the vaccines (like your friend who is allergic) live their life without serious fear of catching these deadly diseases. Yes, vaccines carry some non-trivial amount of danger, but science has verified that the danger to the individual is outweighed by the danger of society losing herd immunity.

    What people don't realize is that it only takes 10-15% of the population being unvaccinated to cause a major outbreak. Once that happens, it is much more likely for a disease to mutate and be able to attack even those that are vaccinated. That's why the government mandates vaccines, and since the government is mandating vaccines. It makes sense for the government to pay out when vaccines hurt people when the government is the one that made the decision, not the manufacturers.

  4. Re:Whew, that's a relief. by CrimsonScythe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Interesting that you should say this, since the doctor who published the original study was actually paid to do the study by the parents who wanted to sue over the alleged MMR-autism link. From the BBC article:

    Mr Wakefield received funding to see if there was any evidence to support possible legal action by a group of parents who claimed their children were damaged by the vaccine. Some children were involved in both studies.

    If that wasn't bad enough, alongside with other charges (see here), there are signs of him fixing the data in the study. Not exactly what I'd call a pillar of ethical and unbiased behavior...

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  5. Re:No proof yet... by Dan+Ost · · Score: 5, Informative

    Obviously, something in our environment is making autism rates climb.

    Not at all. It's a combination of 2 things:
    1. the definition of autism has broadened with time so that things that weren't considered autism 50 years ago now count
    2. better detection means people with autism are more likely to get counted.

    The scientific consensus is that there is no reason to believe that autism is more common now than before.

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  6. Re:Older fathers have more autistic children by tOaOMiB · · Score: 5, Informative

    FYI, the genetic bases for both of these trends is (at least partially) known. For Down's syndrome, this is caused by non-disjunction of chromosome 21. Since eggs are in a state of suspension in a female (after all having been created at the same time), the longer they are in this suspended state, the higher the chance for a non-disjunction. This also contributes to why miscarriage rates go up (and fertility down) as women age.

    For autism, at least one of the contributing factors is de novo copy number variants (segment of the genome that have been deleted or duplicated). As the father gets older, his sperm (which he constantly makes) have undergone more copying, and mutations (errors in that copying) will accrue. Errors such as non-disjunctions, in which a whole chromosome is copied, lead to inviable sperm. However, smaller mutations are viable...but may still be deleterious.

  7. Re:A victory for sanity. by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 5, Informative

    A good doctor should welcome a parent who has done this research and isn't rejecting immunizations out of hand, but just the traditional schedule of how they are admitted, which many doctors have just taken a schedule from somebody else without doing any work to develop one on their own.

    Doctors don't usually come up with their own schedules; unless you're actually an immunologist, it makes far more sense to trust a published schedule, like ACIP or NACI. These are reviewed every year, and cover all the interesting rules and interactions between various agents. Vaccination scheduling is far more complex than you might realize - there are specific rules covering live and non-live agents, which agents can be given at the same time, minimum/maximum intervals between series doses, and more.

    Disclaimer: I've worked in the industry, specifically with regard to writing schedulers. I know firsthand how hard it is.

  8. Re:A victory for sanity. by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 5, Informative

    Small pox killed tons of people too, yet that one isn't getting passed out these days.

    That's because smallpox has been eradicated, thanks to vaccination.