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Collided Satellite Debris Coming Down?

Jamie found this Bad Astronomy blog on the many reports beginning about 7 hours ago of one or more fireballs in the sky across Texas. That blog's proprietor first doubted that the phenomena could be due to the satellites that collided in orbit last week, but later left the possibility open. The National Weather Service for Jackson, KY put out an announcement about possible explosions and earthquakes across the area and blamed the defunct satellites. "These pieces of debris have been causing sonic booms...resulting in the vibrations being felt by some residents...as well as flashes of light across the sky. The cloud of debris is likely the result of the recent in orbit collision of two satellites on Tuesday...February 10th when Kosmos 2251 crashed into Iridium 33." An Austin TV station has more reports.

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  1. After seeing the video he says its a meteor by bitcastle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "I can now state unequivocally that this is not the result of the satellite collision. The meteor is moving far too quickly for that; satellite collision debris would fall at perhaps 10 km/sec max, while incoming meteoroids are moving at 11km/sec at a minimum, and this thing is screaming across the sky at several dozen km/sec (assuming itâ(TM)s at a typical meteor height of 50 or more km). So I was probably right in the first place, and what we have here is almost certainly a single object, perhaps a meter or two across, and it came from deep space"

  2. It was not from the satellite collision by The+Bad+Astronomer · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone noted above, I'm now very sure this was a natural piece of cosmic debris, a chunk of asteroid or something similar. I posted a wrapup with my thoughts.

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    1. Re:It was not from the satellite collision by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      As someone noted above, I'm now very sure this was a natural piece of cosmic debris, a chunk of asteroid or something similar.

      Natural, huh? From all of that activity happening up there, one can only conclude that we're under attack. Don't try to cover it up.

      First GW Bush, now this!

      Aliens!

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  3. Re:earthquakes? by falken0905 · · Score: 5, Informative

    RTFA carefully. Citizens are reporting sounds and vibrations they -think- are earthquakes etc. but authorities are saying it is just caused by the sonic booms of stuff (whatever it is) entering the atmosphere and exploding.

  4. Re:earthquakes? by SpazmodeusG · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seismometers detect things like sonic booms and lightning strikes from quite large distances away.
    So if it created a sonic boom coming down through the atmosphere it could have been detected as seismic activity.

  5. NOTAM was issued yesterday by daemonburrito · · Score: 5, Informative

    The FAA issued a Notice To Airmen yesterday predicting debris and asking pilots to report.

    I think there may be some conflict between the FAA's safety concerns and NORAD's secrecy. NORAD will weigh in eventually (when they're sure what they can and can't say), but there no reason to throw away the FAA's opinion, even though they are not the "go to" agency.

  6. Re:earthquakes? by Bandman · · Score: 5, Funny

    So wait, there are going to be zombies?

    Finally!

    I mean..uhh..damn...yea...I'm not excited at all...

    /breaks out the cricket bat

  7. Re:nice view by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Troll? Why is that marked troll? He muses what an impressive show it must be an then expresses concern for his fellow man.

    Finally! Incontrovertible proof that the Slashdot moderators are secretly encouraging members to express their disdain and apathy towards their kin thus creating an antisocial and disjointed population which would increase their control over them and facilitate the establishment of their New Global Order! Wake up sheeple! The Slashdot mods are taking over!

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  8. Re:it figures... by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

    call it spacebook

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  9. Re:nice view by eltaco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Insightful? Why is that marked insightful? He muses what an impressive show it must be an then expresses concern for his fellow man.

    etc etc.

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  10. Not from the satellites by Viadd · · Score: 5, Informative

    (Also posted to Bad Astronomy.)

    A simple orbital analysis using the ground tracks from, e.g. Heavens-Above.com shows that this was not debris form the collision.

    The debris from a collision keeps more or less the same orbit as before, but is spread out along the orbit. (Orbital plane changes require a lot more delta-v than changing the along-track position or altitude, since drift along the orbit accumulates, but displacements across the orbit swing back and forth with each cycle.)

    Looking at the ground tracks of
    Iridium 33 and
    Cosmos 2251

    Just eyeballing the tracks, the North-going leg of the orbit of Iridium 33 crosses the latitude of Texas at around 10 PM local time. For Cosmos 2251, it crosses about 4 PM local.

    An 11 AM fireball could be Iridium debris, but only if it were heading to the south-south-east. The fireball was heading NNE. So this was NOT debris from either satellite.