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One Broken Router Takes Out Half the Internet?

Silent Stephus writes "I work for a smallish hosting provider, and this morning we experienced a networking event with one of our upstreams. What is interesting about this, is it's being caused by a mis-configured router in Europe — and it appears to be affecting a significant portion of the transit providers across the Internet. In other words, a single mis-configured router is apparently able to cause a DOS for a huge chunk of the Net. And people don't believe me when I tell them all this new-fangled technology is held together by duct-tape and baling wire!"

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  1. Trust by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Until the internet evolves away from its trust-everyone roots,
    one well placed server will be able to cause massive damage.

    There would be a lot more impetus to force the change if hackers were nuking things from orbit for lulz instead of infiltrating systems for business reasons (spamming, bot herds, etc).

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    1. Re:Trust by lambent · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Precisely. It wasn't "one broken router" that took out half the net, it was thousands of substandard routers using obsolete code run by incompetent admins that took out half the net.

      the people who actually know what they're doing were unaffected by this.

    2. Re:Trust by martas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      NO, NO, NO!

      Stop saying that everyone trusts everyone on the internet! This is not true, and it hasn't been for a while. I'm tired of hearing doomsday scenarios about how tomorrow some 13 year old kid in the Ukraine is going to bring down the whole internet. The way most networks are run today is actually very secure. We don't need a new design, we don't need to start from scratch. All we need is to shoot all the idiots who don't protect their computers and let them become a part of a botnet, because realistically that's by far the biggest danger for the Tubes right now.

  2. Don't knock duct tape by fm6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, do, you're right to be concerned. The thing is, our technology infrastructure has always been a nasty kludge. In 1965, some coincidental misconfigurations at two minor power plants took out the power grid for an area in the northeast U.S. and eastern Canada where 25 million people lived. It was 14 hours before the grid was fully restored. Our inability to keep our technical house in order is a very old problem.

  3. I wish... by egcagrac0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    people don't believe me when I tell them all this new-fangled technology is held together by duct-tape and bailing wire

    If only it were that reliable... my duct tape patches and bailing wire repairs typically hold for a decade.

  4. Re:Half the internet? Are you serious? by jjrockman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Punctuate much?

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  5. Re:Yep, Its true by myowntrueself · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's the problem. You shouldn't use rouge on your routers.

    I think that a rouged router would possibly be overly promiscuous.

    No wonder problems like this can spread like the clap in a port town!

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  6. Re:Yep, Its true by mail2345 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WW3 is an external problem.
    A misconfigured machine is an internal problem.
    The internet can survive cut cables, provided that there are other routes.
    But if it can't find said routes, then there is a problem.

  7. Re:Yep, Its true by jonwil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the bug is THIS serious and can cause such major problems, why are there any routers out there that haven't run the fix yet? Are they routers that are too important to bring down long enough to apply the fix? Too much risk involved (vs the smaller risk of actually being hit with the bug)? Too old to support the needed new version? Owners too stingy to pay for the new version that has the fix?

  8. Re:Yep, Its true by v1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It was meant more to stop the network from failing due to LOST nodes, not malfunctioning nodes. But that doesn't say much for its ability to withstand sabotage which is expected in wartime.

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  9. Re:Yep, Its true by travbrad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm going to go with option G) Laziness

  10. TAG THIS ARTICLE KDAWSONSUCKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This "article" is incredibly misleading as nothing has really gone awry. It is just another pointless KDAWSON post. These things are getting REALLY old, KDAWSON.
     
    I work for a tier-3 provider, and if "half the Internet" dies, you are going to hear from a half-brained big media outlet (e.g CNN, ABC) VERY fast.

    1. Re:TAG THIS ARTICLE KDAWSONSUCKS by supernova_hq · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Try being on the other side of that "snip". Not that I was, but it's something to think about.

  11. Re:The WHOLE Internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    a well deserved woosh