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Obama Admin Fights Missing White House Email Lawsuit
DesScorp writes "The AP reports that the Obama administration has picked up where the Bush administration left off on the missing White House email issue by trying to have a lawsuit dismissed that would have kept investigating whether or not email was still missing. Two advocacy groups suing the Executive Office of the President expressed disappointment with the Obama administration's actions. Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive, noted that President Barack Obama on his first full day in office called for greater transparency in government. The Justice Department 'apparently never got the message' from Obama, Blanton said."
we experienced something similar after an opposition party won the elections for the first time in 70 years. One would expect all corruption would be wiped out, but it didn't happen (mainly because the then candidate president promised not to fire people just because there was a change in the admin). It's OBVIOUS that when the bureaucrats notice they're gonna be watched, they start covering each other's asses.
Why would the people in the Obama administration be any different?
if ANYONE had ANYTHING on Bush he would have been impeached a long time ago...
This tells me that they are all corrupt, we NEED a viable third (or more) political party(ies)!
Namely someone who respects the Constitution.
I'm quite certain that President Obama and his staff recognize, now that they are in executive power, that any precedent weakening executive privilege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege) also weakens separation of powers, and would very likely come back on him in the future. In politics, what goes around very often comes back around. So, every opponent wants more "open" policy making, while every executive wants to be able to have his ducks in a row to fight once, rather that dying by a thousand cuts while opponents criticize every step of the sausage making process.
I suggest that people monitor the following site:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
It gives a good overall view of whether it is 'bait and switch' or not.
So far the meter shows 15 promises kept and 2 broken. That is almost close to 90%. I'd say that is a pretty good score.
How so? Particularly with regard to government operations.
And yet you have not established that secrecy is a necessity for honesty.
But I can give you MANY examples of secrecy being a necessity for DISHONESTY.
Why would that be necessary?
And that makes sense as long as you agree with every decision made.
Fuck that.
This is our elected government. Not our king.
So I can vote for someone ... who then becomes unquestionable.
Fuck that, too.
They're elected officials. This is not an autocracy.
We are electing politicians. Not princes and kings.
And now you're confusing oversight with "harassment".
Your "logic" is self contradictory.
By your "logic".
They were elected to do a job.
Once they are elected, they can do whatever they want to do.
And no matter what they are doing, the public must not bother them about what they are doing.
Even if what they are doing is the opposite of what the people who voted for them asked them to do.
Fuck that. Fuck princes and kings. I'm watching my elected officials. I'm watching what they're doing. If I don't approve, I let them know.
You can keep your princes and kings.
I keep hearing about how Obama represents a "Mixed Bag".
Whatever. The whole show keeps moving forward. Keep an eye out for the "Amero".
And when the rocks start falling, people will be willing to follow this president to the shelters. Just remember, that barbed wire is for our protection. Don't be alarmed by the fact that it's facing inwards. I'm sure there will be a good rationalization for that.
-FL
I suggest that, rather than taxing earned income, we exempt it and tax only unearned income.
That way, the more you work the more money you keep. If you make $20,000 in retail, you get to keep all of it. If you make $250,000 being a stock broker, you keep it. If you sit around on your ass waiting cashing in capitol gains (which means you sold a stock and are taking money _out_ of the system), living off the teat of dividends (again, money which is _not_ being reinvested directly by the company) or interest, you pay a flat rate...say 20%.
Businesses make up for the slack by paying a paltry 1-3% of gross receipts.
Or are you trying to defend those who don't work for a living?
I might note - and you'll no doubt agree as a fiscal conservative - that retirement is not a basic "right" guaranteed in the constitution. You should be careful not to rest on either taxing work (wages) or granting the undeserving a free ride (retirees who haven't saved enough) - as both hard work and paying your own way are planks in the Republican platform.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Here we go again... Just another lie! Where is the transperency he promised? He made A LOT of promises and hasn't kept ONE yet.... The global elite really are pulling this guys strings worse than Bush....
Can one of the Obaaaaaamanoids tell us ONE promise he made he has kept????
This is starting to remind me of the Ministry song "Lies, Lies, Lies"..
"America has been hijacked
Not by Al Qaeda, not by Bin Laden
But by a group of tyrants
That should be of great concern to all Americans
We're on a mission to bring out the facts
You got your stories but they all have cracks
Misinformation, lies and deceit
What made you think that we were all asleep
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies X3
Surpise surprise"
The Truth is a Virus!!!
Lynching Bush Administration worthless to Obama right now. Wait until 2010-2011, THEN let the dirt start to be dug up about Bush & Co. When the public finds out it was much worse than we though, it will hurt the Republicans that much more. Welcome to politics.
I live and operate a small business in a municipality with a gross receipts tax, and it blows as both a business owner and as a consumer.
Fixed that for you. 'Modern politics' has become such a media circus, I'm surprised they haven't turned it into a reality show yet.
Oh, wait...
Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
I would NOT DO IT.
Good.
neither would you.
Well, I've spent a while saying I wouldn't. Of course it won't be as obvious as you play it so we've got to keep our eyes open.
But from the discussions about it here I have to assume that most people would be okay with it at least as long as they were assured it was legal.
The problem is that like how in the global economy our government can't just print new money and have it accepted, they also can't just write off the guilt of a million deaths even if we all close our eyes to it.
If we were to bet on the time-period in which 85% of the population could go from 'against torture' to operating the torture machine in a Milgram-type experiment I'd guess three days. But only because days one and two would be spent on orientation and classes about the equipment.
In principle I agree, but I'm confused about why partisan staff should be involved in this kind of thing in the first place.
Surely something like the IT system for the Whitehouse, as with many other things, should be run by an entity that's independent from partisan politics in the same way that the courts are independent and the law enforcement is independent. These people shouldn't report to the President or his/her staff except for very indirectly. They should report to someone who ahs a responsibility to the government but not to the currently presiding party.
Security and robustness should be required as part of the design of how the government works -- not something added on a whim by the current administration if it happens to match their policies at the time. If old partisan staff get fired and new partisan staff get hired whenever there's a change of government, it makes it very clear that they're only there to do things the way the current administration requires, and not the way that's best for everyone.