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Use Your iPhone To Get Out of a Ticket

An anonymous reader writes to tell us that Parkingticket.com just announced new compatibility with the Safari web browser on Apple's iPhone, giving you new tools to immediately contest a parking ticket. The site is so confident in their service that if all steps are followed and the ticket is still not dismissed they will pay $10 towards your ticket. "The process begins by navigating the iPhone's Safari browser to the Parkingticket.com website where you'll find a straightforward means to fight a parking ticket; whether the ticket was issued in New York City, San Francisco, Boston, Philadelphia or Washington, D.C. Simply register for a free account and choose the city in which the ticket was issued. Enter your ticket and vehicle details then answer a few quick questions. The detailed process takes about ten minutes, from A-Z. To allow easy entry of your ticket, a look-a-like parking ticket is displayed — for your specific city — with interactive functionality."

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  1. nice by SkankinMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think the iPhone just became a positive ROI for many people in these areas.

    1. Re:nice by Galois2 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think the iPhone just became a positive ROI for many people in these areas.

      Not really. From the article, in order to even start the process you have to pay parkingticket.com a deposit equal to 50% of the ticket fine. Here is what can happen:

      • If the ticket is dismissed, parkingticket.com keeps the 50% you paid them
      • If the ticket is reduced, parkingticket.com retains 50% of what you saved
      • If the ticket is dismissed, parkingticket.com will refund the deposit and pay 10% of the ticket

      I guess if you're into paying a 50% fee for having someone fill out the paperwork, it's a good deal.

    2. Re:nice by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 4, Informative

      "If the ticket is not dismissed, parkingticket.com will refund the deposit and pay 10% of the ticket"

      FTFY

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    3. Re:nice by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the iPhone just became a positive ROI for many people in these areas.

      Or any other phone that has a half-decent web browser. All this thing does is launch Safari to take you to their website. The only reason the press release mentions the iPhone is because that's a virtual guarantee that it will be spread all over creation via the news wires and sites that don't actually read the articles beyond a few keywords such as, say, Slashdot.

    4. Re:nice by tcolberg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Under cursory review of the above terms, it still sounds like an excellent hedge when one gets a ticket. Sure, it's not a great deal if you're experienced with combating tickets, but for someone who otherwise would have just paid the ticket or thrown their arms up in the air when trying to figure out the dispute process, it sounds like a bargain.

    5. Re:nice by mini+me · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're right. The website isn't even iPhone-optimized.

    6. Re:nice by FredFredrickson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not only any phone browser, but No phone neccessary. You could just log on with your computer.

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    7. Re:nice by fataugie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At what point in the story do we find out the Cities in question are all joint members of this site as a way to make some extra $$$?

      Excuse me while I re-adjust my tinfoil hat.

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    8. Re:nice by keytoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The website isn't even iPhone-optimized.

      Please, please, please pretty please stop trying to 'optimize' sites for the iPhone. It has a perfectly functional browser that deals with normal web pages just fine. Just build a normal standards compliant page that scales gracefully - which you should be doing anyway.

    9. Re:nice by Carbonite · · Score: 3, Informative

      If the ticket is upheld, you pay: $12.50 (deposit) + $25.00 (ticket) = $37.50

      You receive: $12.50 (refund) + $2.50 (10% of ticket) = $15.00

      Net paid: $37.50 - $15.00 = $22.50

      Savings = $2.50

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    10. Re:nice by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Informative

      1. They don't do denver. 2. The cities they do cover have a policy that if you contest the ticket, they'll offer to settle at 25-50% discount.

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    11. Re:nice by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't always want the same webpage when you visit a site on the iPhone as on a normal browser. For one, it's often nice to have pages wider than 320 px - if you limit yourself to that as a webdesigner then you're really going to be pressed.

      You do realise that the Iphone isn't the only hand-held browsing device out there - and never was, by several years?

      Sure, there is perhaps an argument for optimising for small browsers, but there's still no justification for optimising for the Iphone's browser.

  2. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How exactly will you fight a legit ticket?

    1. Re:What? by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

      With Steve Jobs' magic, of course!

      With a caramel Frappucino in one hand, and an iPhone in the other, the elite of the major metropolitan areas can not be stopped!

    2. Re:What? by darkmeridian · · Score: 4, Informative

      In New York City, the government offers to settle a ticket for 50% if you just challenge the ticket. The company takes half of the value you save, so they probably make a killing telling everyone to challenge and pay the settlement.

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    3. Re:What? by sexconker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So, in effect, they're profiting off the crimes of others?

    4. Re:What? by sunking2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gasp, you mean like lawyers do?

    5. Re:What? by DaCurryman · · Score: 3, Informative

      So, basically, in the end, you pay 75% of the ticket price? Doesn't sound like that good a deal to me. Most tickets are in the $5 to $20 range. Maybe you'd be better off determining how to challenge local tickets for yourself.

      I don't know where in NYC you've been driving but I've never seen a $5 ticket, or even $20 for that matter. Forget to renew your registration, around $65. Illegal parking below 96th Street: $105!

    6. Re:What? by dcollins · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most tickets are in the $5 to $20 range.

      No, parking fines in Manhattan range from $65 to $115. See http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/02/nyregion/02parking.html (multimedia sidebar popup).

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    7. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    8. Re:What? by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've never been to New York, so I wouldn't know. I was thinking of parking fines more in line with just about everywhere else I've been. Those fines are outrageous.

      He is actually understating the fines. Or I should say, the total cost. I just had a car returned to me, with an expired inspection. I was literally driving it to the shop to have it inspected when I was pulled over for that.

      I looked it up, saw it was a $25 fine (since it had just expired) and pleaded guilty. Big mistake.

      2 week later I received a bill. $25 fine, as expected, and an $85 SURCHARGE. The total, for what was originally a $25 fine, became a $110 fine for an out of date inspection.

      Thank god that I'm also literally moving out of this state today. 6 hr drive ahead of me, but good riddance.

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    9. Re:What? by jackbird · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've contested a parking ticket in NYC (came back from walking 25 feet to the muni-meter to get my receipt to find the car being written up, at which point the ticket-writer said there wouldn't be any problem). Despite providing the receipt and an affadavit from my passenger, no fine reduction for me. Luckily it was in Queens so it was "only" $75.

    10. Re:What? by tompaulco · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you including administrative fees, filing fees, court fees, fee fees, etc?
      Yes, by all means be careful. Where I live, my stepson got a ticket for a noise violation. His car is not really all that loud, but he is 16, which is almost as bad as a DWB. Anyway, I went with decibel meters and reports in hand to wrangle with the authorities, and the court clerk told me I had to pay $50 non-refundable if I wanted to go before the judge to plead my case, and the judge could decide to even raise the fine if he so chose. So I very grumpily and with mutterances about railroading and shady legal authorities paid the fine, as it was cheaper than stating my case.

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  3. The iPhone by Jonah+Bomber · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will its wonders never cease!

  4. Will we see this on A&E parking wars? by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will we see this on A&E parking wars?

  5. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is this an ad or something?

  6. Re:Free? Be careful... by jfim · · Score: 4, Informative

    They charge a fee of half the ticket fine, which they reimburse if the ticket does not get dismissed.

  7. Save your money by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't look like anything special.. just an automated ambulance-chasing service. They get 50% of the price of the ticket by filing some forms to contest it. There must be a low conviction rate for parking tickets (or people who fight them), and they're just taking advantage of that fact. To top it all off, they get all of your personal information, including the make, model, and plate numbers of your vehicle. I'm not sure whether an attorney-client relationship would exist in this scenario, but even if it did, they could probably resell anonymized information.

    1. Re:Save your money by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lots of jurisdictions are so crowded that all a lawyer has to do is show up to contest the ticket and it'll get dropped to save time.

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  8. iPhone? by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wouldn't any phone with a camera and internet access do? Why does it have to be an iPhone? What about a laptop and digital camera?

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    1. Re:iPhone? by athakur999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're right, there is absolutely nothing about this that makes it iPhone specific. Any camera phone with a web browser (or any other combination of camera and web browser...) can do the very same thing.

      Of course, adding "iPhone" to the title of anything suddenly makes it 100x more newsworthy in the eyes of fanboys :)

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    2. Re:iPhone? by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Use Your web browser and camera To Get Out of A Ticket"

      There.

      The so-called news here is that they finally got their site to work on iPhone's Safari.

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  9. Can you say "file an appeal?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Those sites and processes only work if you are willing to appeal the judges decision and go through the effort. Plan on the judge looking at you and saying "guilty" in court--they know it's a matter of numbers and most people will just pay the ticket and go about their business. The sites are more of a rip-off than just paying the darned things.

    Trust me on this--I've tried.

    Peace!

  10. Feeble Announcement by mmkkbb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So basically, this site has nothing whatsoever to do with the iPhone except actually working on the browser. The screenshot shows that's it not even an iPhone-specific page.

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  11. Reduced less than 25% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    What about this scenario?

    $30.00 parking ticket.

    deposit $15.00.

    The ticket gets reduced to $25.00.

    They refund $7.50, but you've still paid them $7.50.

    You're out $32.50, more than the original ticket.

    This happens in every case where the ticket is reduced less than 25%. They need to address this.

    Still, I like the idea in general.

    1. Re:Reduced less than 25% by Samalie · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe your math is incorrect.

      $30 Parking Ticket

      You deposit $15

      The ticket is reduced to $25

      From the article: If, after a hearing, the parking ticket fine is reduced rather then dismissed, parkingticket.com retains half of the amount you saved and refunds the balance.

      So you saved $5 off the parking ticket. Parking ticket retains $2.50 (1/2 the amount you saved) and refunds the rest ($12.50)

      So your ticket has cost you $27.50, not $32.50

      Granted, you're still paying $2.50 more than you have to if you went it alone. Hell, the ONLY time you can actually come out ahead is if you use their service for a ticket you KNOW will not be reduced or dismissed. Then you make $10 (but of course are out the full price of the ticket)

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  12. Re:Nice.. but by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Interesting

        I've seen a lot of bad parking jobs.

        I almost got a ticket once, because the parking meter I was parked at ran out. The parking enforcement officer came up, tapped on my window, and asked "Are you going to pay that, or do I have to write you a ticket?"

        I pointed at the car that had double parked beside me. I hadn't stayed to be a scofflaw, I had stayed because there was a car blocking me in.

        The officer was much more interested in writing the ticket for parking in the road, blocking traffic, etc, etc. When the lady noticed her car was getting ticketed, she ran over, jumped in, and took off. I hope she got the ticket in the mail.

        But likewise, not all tickets are legitimate.

        I got ticketed once, for parking in my own driveway. They believed my bumper was "too close" to the sidewalk. Since the other bumper was against the garage door, and the vehicle wasn't in any way blocking the sidewalk, they were just looking for anything to ticket. I lived there over a year, and always parked there, and only was ticketed once. They should have made more of an effort to ticket the people who parked across my driveway. Sometimes I couldn't leave because they were blocking me in.

       

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  13. ONLY available in those 5 cities by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary doesn't make this completely clear and the website only reveals this in a FAQ section, but this is ONLY available for tickets written in New York City, San Francisco, Boston, Philadelphia or Washington, D.C.

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  14. Re:Parking tickets by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Parking tickets should be backed up with photographs anyways, taken by the ticket-writer.

    There's hundreds of years of jurisprudence based on the idea that an eyewitness account of an alleged act, delivered by a person bound by oath to be truthful, can be accepted by the court as evidence supporting the alleged act. Why would you want to reverse that?

    Taken to a logical end, wouldn't this also mean that rapists, murderers, and kidnappers would walk free if none of the witnesses to their crimes happened to have a cameraphone handy at the right moment?

    If you get ticketed, you're always free to take your own photographs of the scene and bring them to court with you when you contest the ticket.

  15. Re:Startup.com by Wannabe+Code+Monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wait, I think I saw this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Startup.com

    Yes... it is exactly like that. Parkingticket.com has been operating for 7 years, is still in business, and releasing new products. And govworks.com was in existence for only 3 years, never really got off the ground and crashed and burned before parkingticket.com even existed. So, yes, they are very eerily similar.

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  16. Re:Parking tickets by taustin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There isn't a jurisdiction in the United States that will give you a jury trial for a parking ticket.

  17. Re:Free? Be careful... by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought there is nothing free in this world especially the USA

    There's plenty free. Air is free, and it's a lot cleaner air than when I was growing up (although cleaning up the mess industry made cost us taxpayers a bundle, and few corporations pay any US Federal Income Tax).

    Rainwater waters your gardens for free.

    Sunrises and sunsets are free.

    You can often get condoms for free. The free ones are generally better than ones you buy from bars' rest rooms, the last one I bought at Farley's was out of date.

    Heat is free in the summertime, and air conditioning is free in the winter.

    The corporations all get free rides from the Federal Government.

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  18. Looks like the /. spam filter has broken by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought /. had human editors. I guess I was mistaken.

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  19. Really? by DamienNightbane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be easier to just obey parking laws?

    1. Re:Really? by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's insane!

      next you will suggest people don't speed, tailgate or run red lights...

      Are you MAD?

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    2. Re:Really? by hansamurai · · Score: 2, Funny

      Embarrassing story ahead:

      One night I was visiting my girlfriend at her dorm, and was just going to hang out for like 30 minutes and then head to a movie or dinner.

      I parked in the closest spot I could find, which was actually really, really close. The sign said Resident's Parking Only.

      When we came back out I had a ticket for $50, and was like "WTF?" because I had even parked her car so she had all the right stickers.

      Turns out, the sign said President's Parking Only. Failure.

  20. I doubt it will work in DC by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 5, Funny

    In my old apartment in the Adams Morgan neighborhood of DC, there was a sign that said you could not park beyond that sign. If you assumed that you could park on the OTHER side of the sign, you would be wrong. The other side of the sign was a cross walk.

    Half a block from that spot, there is another sign indicating where you can and cannot park. If you park where the sign indicates it is legal, you will get a ticket for parking too close to a fire hydrant. My friend took photos showing that the sign itself was 9 feet from the hydrant. He went to court in person. The judge said it doesn't matter where the sign is, the law says you have to be 10 feet from the hydrant.

    The Washington Post has a column called Dr. Gridlock. I recall a few years back where they ran stories of tickets in DC. One person got a ticket for parking at an expired meter. He appealed by mail (which you can't even do anymore) and included a photograph showing that there were, in fact, no parking meters on the street where he was parked. His appeal was denied.

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  21. Re:Not the whole story by oGMo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I live in Washington state, where it's illegal to use a hand-held phone while driving. If I'm trying to immediately contest a ticket and get pulled over for using a phone while driving, will parkingticket.com automatically contest that one as well? Otherwise it's gonna be a vicious circle.

    So exactly how often do you get pulled over and issued a parking ticket?

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  22. Re:Parking tickets by jgtg32a · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because the Jury would sentence the person who was trying to get out of a ticket to death for wasting their time.

  23. Re:Free? Be careful... by ciderVisor · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can't buy true friends.

    My true friend is a RealDoll, you insensitive clod !

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  24. Re:Well, tips for other cities: by ciderVisor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Plus you get that warm glow which comes from knowing that you made one less space available to genuinely disabled people ! Epic win !

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  25. Re:Parking tickets by damien_kane · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to your Bill of Rights, any American Citizen can request trial by a jury of their peers when the amount in question is in excess of $20.00.

    Granted, that $20.00 was worth a lot more when the bill was passed, and any jury that got pulled from work to try your parking ticket is going to be pissed (good luck finding an unbiased group), but you do have the federally mandated right to do so.

  26. Re:Well, tips for other cities: by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or you can not be an asshole, and not park in the handicapped spot in the first place. Those exist for a reason, and while there's usually more than needed, I've been in situations where I wasn't able to use the parking space I needed because some fuckwit in a BMW M3 parked in the handicapped spot.

    Fortunately, there was a cop shop next door, and I went there instead. The officer who wrote the ticket said "unfortunately, being mentally handicapped doesn't count unless you've got a permit". I get a warmfuzzy when I remember that it was a $300 fine.

    And for those wondering why I was using the space, it was shortly after the training accident that got me out of the military, when the doctors thought I wouldn't be able to walk again. Thankfully, I found a good surgeon and don't need the permit any more.

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  27. Re:Parking tickets by mmkkbb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Street parking time limits are meant to provide short-term parking for people to use for short visits to area businesses. The maximum time limit enforces churn.

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  28. Re:Parking tickets by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Doesn't matter. Parking tickets are "infractions" or "violations" and technically not crimes. So the bill of rights does not apply. Obviously there's no difference in real life, but in the legal fantasy land our courts occupy there is.

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  29. Re:Free? Be careful... by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    You don't really want to tax corporations much.

    You need to tax the employee's.

    If the corporation leaves, then all the popel it would employee have no money, and you generate no tax revenue.

    we've seen this plenty of times.

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  30. Just say no -- for all our benefit by jamesborr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not quite understanding the purpose behind this application. After all, the perpetrator who illegally parked their car is admitting quilt, just that they want to pay less to the government. This is what is wrong with this country in the first place. Folks are too selfish as it is, don't they realize the benefit that comes from transferring their money to the government? It is proven that that money spent by the government returns more value to society then any other type of potential spending. The sooner we all buck up and pay government it's fair share -- the sooner the economy will pick up, providing benefit to all folks in the most equitable manner possible.

  31. Pathetic by fugue · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People who want to park their cars for free are pathetic whiners. Cars cost our society an enormous amount. Why shouldn't the individual using the car pay for some of the car's costs?

    That said, I did get in illegitimate parking ticket once (parked under a sign with restriction hours posted on it, outside the restriction hours). They dismissed it, eventually.

    But I suspect that the overwhelming majority of parking tickets are perfectly legitimate and completely deserved.

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  32. Re:Nice.. but by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They should have made more of an effort to ticket the people who parked across my driveway. Sometimes I couldn't leave because they were blocking me in.

    A buddy of mine had that problem. He spraypainted all over the car in "chalk paint" that washes off very easy, it's used by car lots.

    HE WRITES : DONT PARK HERE ASSHOLE

    He says he has to do it only once to a person and they wont park within a block of his driveway.

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  33. Good clip by JCSoRocks · · Score: 3, Informative

    The clip is long, but worth it. Never seen the show before but I'm tempted to start watching. That was classic.

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  34. Re:Startup.com by Wannabe+Code+Monkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Parkingticket.com has been operating for 7 years

    I should note that after doing a little more research, I found that the company has been in business for much longer. The founder has been in the getting-out-of-parking-tickets business since 1982, designed a system called ALARM in the early nineties that performed the service for companies with fleets of vehicles, and in 2001 (when they started parkingticket.com) he estimated the company's revenue at $3MM.

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  35. Re:Well, tips for other cities: by clifyt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really can't stand assholes like this either...I was in a chair for about a year but could walk with crutches for short amounts of time (like a few hours a day max), and even then I didn't use the handicapped spots. I figured someone with more need probably could use them (even if that meant I needed to walk a block further).

    Sadly, it was generally overpriveledged yuppies or 18 year old punks that needed them more...

  36. Re:Nice.. but by YouWantFriesWithThat · · Score: 4, Funny

    he lets them off easy. someone did that to a friend of mine, when he got home from work (construction) and there was a random Caddy parked in his driveway. he dragged their car into the middle of the street, left it in a lane of traffic, parked his truck legally in his driveway, and then called the cops. cracked a beer and watched the car get towed in 10 minutes.

  37. Re:Nice.. but by Xtravar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When parking your car becomes a central theme in your life, you need to consider living somewhere else.

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  38. Re:Nice.. but by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sure they're happy, if you pay for the tow yourself. Everywhere I've ever lived, the only way to get a car towed at the driver's expense is to go through the police, which is cumbersome and mostly pointless, unless you somehow live in a magic fantasy land where cops aren't lazy pricks.

    In Texas not only can they tow you, but even if they tow you illegally, you still have to pay.

    To actually get your money back you have to sue in small claims court.

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  39. Re:Free? Be careful... by pj2541 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wouldn't that mean that they are charging for legal advice, and can then be prosecuted for practicing law (in every state) without being a member of the Bar?

  40. Re:Parking tickets by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't doubt you did. Criminal cops are a common breed. The question isn't usually IF the cop is dirty, the question generally is how dirty is the cop.

  41. Re:Welcome to Niggerbuntu by neomunk · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's just not slashdot's style. AFAIK there has only been one post removed from slashdot... ever. The only reason THAT one went is because the Scientologists brought out the lawyer guns.

    I could be wrong, but that's what I remember of my slashdot history.

  42. Re:Welcome to Niggerbuntu by thebigbadme · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't like any form of hate speech... but I like censorship even less

    take my view to be whatever you will

    I do wonder if you would vote for a law that would punish a person for using said word on the street... I mean people by far and large are anonymous in large public places. just wondering, that's all.

    then again, why stop at just that one word?
    you can guess where this is going, and so I will stop here.

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  43. Re:Parking tickets by rantingkitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because then the crime is "failure to appear" before a court when so ordered, and they take that seriously. It seems silly when they make such a big deal out of not showing up for your court date for a seatbelt violation, but I'm okay with it -- a blanket rule saying "Show up to court when lawfully ordered" seems fair to me, and if that means treating the same the dweeb who ran a stop sign and the important witness on a felony charge, so be it. When told to show up, you'd better to do it, and nevermind whether you think it's stupid.

    That aside, the way they skirt around the jury trial in traffic violations is by calling them "violations", "infractions", or "administrative matters", and not "crimes". Personally I find that laughable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that you can get arrested, have to post bond, and go through all the other legal BS for this thing which is allegedly not a crime, just a "violation".

    The reason they do this is twofold: First, there is no way in hell they'd ever get a panel of twelve average Joes to convict you for little bullshit non-moving violations, and the same is true for most moving violations since nobody really cares that you were doing 70 on the highway marked 55, especially since as jurors they're all locals and they all know that everyone does 70 on that highway. Second, there is rarely, if ever, any evidence in these matters -- the cop charges you and says you did something (ran a stop sign? parked too close to a hydrant? who knows?) and that's all they've got. Pointing out that the only "evidence" against you is an accusation would get most juries to let you go, and the state doesn't want that.

    Hence, you're given a "bench trial" instead, where the judge will claim to be impartial but is on the state's payroll and has a vested interest in making sure matters turn out in the state's favor.

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  44. Re:Welcome to Niggerbuntu by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Informative
    • Microsoft (at least) once DMCAd them. The story doesn't make it clear, but I'm pretty sure some comments were deleted.
    • When the onmouseover hack was discovered, they deleted some posts (and modded some down to -5)
    • They used to purge all score 0 and -1 comments when archiving.
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