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Spectrum Fees May Preclude US Low-Cost Cellular

theodp writes "Not to apologize for an industry that charges $27,000 to catch a Chicago Bears game, but will the huge spectrum fees charged by the government block the emergence of low-cost cellular service? In the most recent FCC spectrum auction, carriers paid nearly $20 billion to grab a swath of the 700MHz spectrum. And now under President Obama's proposed budget, wireless carriers would be hit with huge annual fees — eventually reaching $550 million per carrier per year — for the right to hold a spectrum license. Critics say the carriers will simply pass these fees through to consumers."

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  1. Stimulate economy? by eggman9713 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe Obama is banking on them passing it on to the customers. It means more money into the economy through increased charges. They could just put th

    1. Re:Stimulate economy? by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course they're going to pass the fees on to customers. What else are they going to do, hold a bake sale?

      Right.

      I think it's a fine idea. the spectrum is public land. You rent it you don't give it away. This is a point that both conservatives and socialists totally agree upon. It's the bought off congressmen who were out to sell it.

      There have been exceptions to this of course. When you want a resource exploited you do sell it. For example, getting railroads built wiht land grants. Or the 1872 mining law.

      But now a century later the 1872 mining law seems like a huge mistake to continue. And yet that's pretty much exactly what the "drill now" folks want to do.

      The secret is to lease it and price it right. It's not that hard to do.

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    2. Re:Stimulate economy? by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe Obama is banking on them passing it on to the customers. It means more money into the economy through increased charges.

      I certainly hope Obama's grand plan for the economy doesn't whittle down to a governmental implementation of the broken window fallacy.

      Increased customer fees will hurt the economy, not help it. By increasing fees, it means more money going to the government not out into the economy where it might help smaller businesses from shutting down. It also means more people might cancel their service, or opt not to sign up in the first place, both of which hurt the cell providers.

      They could just put th [CARRIER LOST]

      Oh, the irony! :)

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    3. Re:Stimulate economy? by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's a fine idea. the spectrum is public land.

      No, spectrum is not "public land". It's just there. Next the government will ban the sun because it's infringing on the visible spectrum that it rented/sold/leased to someone else.

      All you are renting/selling is a monopoly to use said spectrum. In fact, it's an active deprivation of others who could put that spectrum in within their private lands.

      Now, I know the practical reality and the reasons for it. But it would seem to me when the government uses eminent domain of something, to grant someone a monopoly on said resource, it should be for the public good. The public good does not mean filling government coffers. This is the heart of the dispute of the Kelo decision, where local governments took it to heart that anything that bought them more tax money was for the "public good", and thus the logic that farmers could be deprived of their farms simply because a developer swooped in and his construction would bring in more property taxes. It used to mean land was taken for a road or utility.

      The same thing is happening here: filling government coffers is equated with "for the public good." This is not the case, because America was built on the principle of limited Government, not more of it. Filling public coffers only supports bureacracies the same way the PA Turnpike (now being given I-80 even though that was built with Federal Funds, pushed by the crook Rendell) monopolizes it's route, and the only thing is does (given the crappy generally 2 lane roads) is become a bigger and bigger bureacracy. You should see the public administration building dedicated to this one highway.

      Monopolizing a section bandwidth in exchange of free national wireless internet would be for the public good. Monopolizing a section of bandwidth in exchange for money grows this insatiable government, just makes the system the domain of the highest bidder, raises the costs to the end consumers, and is not for the public good.

  2. Do the math... by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 4, Informative

    $10/user/year for the proposed fees.

    $40/user/life for the license.

    Drop in the bucket compared to the initial infrastructure deployment. In an efficient business, service would be almost free after 12 months.

    1. Re:Do the math... by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > In an efficient business, service would be almost free after 12 months.

      Perhaps in something like water or sewer where nothing changes.

      But would you be happy with the cell phone service and coverage you had in the past? We demand new technology, better connections, faster data, unlimited calling, etc, etc, etc.

      It seems the industry is in a constant state of rolling out new services.

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    2. Re:Do the math... by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps in something like water or sewer where nothing changes.

      The work crews digging up the road by my house would beg to differ.

      Same with the work crews fixing the cellular spectrum outside my window. Oh, wait ...

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  3. tax in disguise by token_username · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Critics say the carriers will simply pass these fees through to consumers."

    What we have here is a stealth tax. There is absolutely no way these costs will not be born by the consumer. This is the nature of business. If your costs rise, you need more revenue to cover them. Revenue does not come from fairies but from customers. In this way, Obama gains credibility only from those who want to stick it to the "big companies" and don't think deep enough to realize where this money actually has to come from. *sarcastically* Thank you President Obama for increasing my contribution to the federal budget. I was looking for another way to funnel you my money.

    1. Re:tax in disguise by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, the big company executives are all going to go get a second job delivering pizzas in the evenings in order to pay for this. They wont pass it to the consumers that would be an excessive tax on the lower class and a drop in the bucket on the rich and upper middle.

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    2. Re:tax in disguise by rhakka · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your need for increased revenue presumes, of course, that you *need* all the profit you were originally making. What is the margin on cell phone services? I have no idea.

      How about, specifically, the margin on texting? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business/28digi.html

      Hmm. yeah, that invisible hand does a really great job eh? So I guess if a text tax were in place, they would *have* to raise their prices. of course!

      I don't know what the margins are on the overall business model. But it's simply not ture that there is "no way" these costs will not be born by the consumer: that is, if those "costs" are already born by the consumer, and the company is simply profiteering on OUR wireless spectrum. If that is not happening, of course, then I fully agree with your point.

      But what do you think is a fair price for using our wireless spectrum then? by your argument, it should be free, so the service can be given at minimal cost to the consumer, or it's a 'stealth tax'. Is that really what you advocate? How about logging national forests for free to get the price of lumber down?

    3. Re:tax in disguise by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are basically arguing the same old tired right wing arguement

      Pointing out that the carriers will pass any increased costs onto consumers is "the same old tired right wing argument"? Ya know, you guys don't get to automatically dismiss any and all criticism of Obama using that line, right?

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    4. Re:tax in disguise by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      However, from the point of view of fairness.. it makes sense.

      Currently carriers pay a one-time fee for a bit of spectrum and get it for life, that isn't in the public interest.

      Ongoing use of spectrum should require ongoing fees, to discourage waste, or carriers buying excessive spectrum they don't need.

      The recurring fees ought to be based on how much spectrum they've bought instead of being a per-carrier fee, however...........

    5. Re:tax in disguise by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, the big company executives are all going to go get a second job delivering pizzas in the evenings in order to pay for this

      How do you deliver pizzas in a Gulfstream IV? ;)

      Really, really fast.

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    6. Re:tax in disguise by tobiasly · · Score: 3, Funny

      Verizon's 2008 operating margin was 17.34%, their return on average equity was 13.93%, neither are particularly stellar or out of line. Exxon and GE are similar, Walmart is lower for margin and higher for return. Basically they are an average Bluechip stock.

      Your silly little "facts" and "numbers" have no place in the effort to make excuses for Obama's enlightened budget, please keep them to yourself. Obama says that if we make less than $250k then we won't pay another dime! So we need to make sure these big bad companies pay a fair price for their use of our spectrum...

  4. Actual Cost by rm999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "According to the OMB (Office of Management and Budget), the fees would generate $4.8 billion over the next 10 years."

    So, that's (on average) 480 million dollars per year for all carriers in the US. Assuming there are 180 million active cell phones in the US (accurate as of 2005), this is $2.70 per phone per year, or 23 cents a month. I think the total of hidden (read: fake) subcharges added to my bill are well over 23 cents a month. In other words, this charge really isn't noteworthy.

    I don't know the specifics, but my only concern is that it will prevent small carrier from entering the market.

  5. Little Wonder by Programmerangel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is not surprising that the carriers are paying so much for a license. People that have studied wireless technologies know that the wireless spectrum is arguably one of the most valuable resources on earth. There is simply not enough space in the spectrum for us to do everything that we want to do.

    If you look at the FCC frequency allocations chart (warning: PDF), you'll notice how many different industries and applications that are trying to use the wireless spectrum. And this chart is deceiving because much of the spectrum isn't usable for modern applications. Lower frequencies don't provide enough bandwidth, and high frequencies require very rare materials for the electronic components, so they are too expensive for most purposes.

    There has been an explosion in research for wireless communication over the last several years because the demand for more capabilities has increased. This has led to incredibly complex encoding schemes and manipulation of the physical radio waves, and is now leading into cognitive radio.

    The sad part is that most of the usable spectrum, even though allocated, remains underutilized. I am a researcher studying the spectral usage in Chicago, and we have calculated that the most heavily used parts of the spectrum are still only occupied about 11% of the time. There are also many parts of the spectrum that have been allocated, but are only used in certain geographical locations. The big TV Whitespace movement promises to introduce technologies that can potentially help us better utilize unused parts of the spectrum where available.

    Am I surprised that the cellphone carriers paid $20 billion for the license? No. The survival of their company depends on them being able to transmit wireless signals. Just like an airline has to pay fees at an airport in order to be able to land their planes. There is no other option.

  6. Re:Taxes or fees by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but it's worse, because the poor and the rich will pay the same amount.

    Please explain to me why that's "worse". Do you honestly believe that the rich should pay more for cellular phone service just because they can? Do you also think that your phone company should get a copy of your W-2 so they can implement a progressive sliding scale of E-911 fees? Maybe SMS charges should be based on your income as well?

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  7. Not A Free Lunch! by logicnazi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Using the 700Mhz spectrum for cell phones means it can't be used for other purposes. If we hadn't used this spectrum for cell service we could have used it to provide faster WiFi or for all sorts of other uses.

    Now the net effect of auctioning off the spectrum rather than giving it away is (assuming an efficent market) just to transfer money from the users of cellphones to those who don't use cellphones. That seems only fair. The people who benefit from exclusive use of a public resource should compensate those who are denied benefits as a result.

    When developers want to build houses on federal land we expect them to pay for the land even though it means the cost of the houses they sell will be higher. This is no different.

    Of course if you accept the evidence that the cellphone market is not really competitive (high barriers to entry make it more like a monopoly) then this cost won't be all passed on to consumers so it's even more justified.

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  8. current spectrum auctions are stupid by j0nb0y · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The carriers spend tons of money on buying spectrum. All this money goes to the government and is spent on who-knows-what. The owners of the spectrum then have much less money to invest in actually using the spectrum.

    Don't get me wrong. I am all in favor of spectrum auctions. However, the bids should not be money. A bid should consist of what service will be provided, how much consumers will be charged for the service, and what areas the service will be provided in. The FCC can then pick winners based on who will provide the most efficient service. If a company doesn't live up to their bid, they lose their spectrum. This bidding process should be automatically repeated every 20 years. There's no reason an incumbent service should be able to hog spectrum that would be better used by a new service, or maybe even an entirely new technology.

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  9. Re:Cirtics say... by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not only critics say that, anyone who has ever run a business will tell you that ALL costs are passed on to the customers in one way or another.

    Well that's definitely true in that eventually all costs must be paid, and businesses get their money from customers, and therefore all costs are in some way paid by customers. However, it's not true that all cost increases to a business result in cost increases to the customer, nor do cost decreases for the company necessarily lead to cost decreases for the consumer.

    I find it almost funny how when you talk about customers getting overcharged-- "overcharged" in the sense that they're paying far most than something costs to produce-- everyone comes out of the woodwork to say, "Of course! This is capitalism! It's about supply and demand, and charging what the market will bear. Even if it costs $0.02 to product, they'll charge $100 for as long as people are willing to pay that price." Then these same people, when you mention that some regulation will increase the cost of production, they complain, "Well that cost is just going to get passed along to consumers!" Well you can't have it both ways.

    There's some truth to it, but it's also true that companies do a lot of research to determine an optimal price for their product. If they charge too little, they sell lots of units but don't make as much per unit and they don't make as much money. If they charge too much, then they make more per unit but there volume is so low that they don't make as much money. There is often some kind of optimal point where they make the most money, and that's the price they charge.

    Same thing with cell phone companies. The prices we're being charged per month is based on what will make the carriers the most money. Not cost. If you raise the costs sufficiently to "diminish supply", then you'll see an increase in price. But costs at this scale don't simply get "passed along to consumers" in the way people talk about it.

  10. Who pays for which fees? by jgarzik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quote: "Critics say the carriers will simply pass these fees through to consumers."

    Critics, you say?

    Customers pay all fees, expenses, taxes, and other costs related to wireless services. That is fundamentally how all businesses work.

    Pointing out the basics of business is hardly being a critic.

  11. Just another hidden tax by yog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (sigh) so much of the President's economic program is based on taxation of corporations and "the rich" that it seems bound to fail. While these policies have a populist ring to them that is currently rather popular after years of a Republican pro-business slant, ultimately the citizenry will come to realize that they are simply being taxed indirectly. Or, if they do not, then they are stupid and deserve what they get.

    To prevent this, I think mobile phone operators should make it clear to consumers what percentage of their bill is directly tied to government corporate tax levies, just as the airlines do--when you look for a ticket, some of the airline websites like Southwest Airlines don't actually add in the taxes until the end, so that you get to watch that nice, cheap ticket suddenly get a lot more expensive thanks to Uncle Sam.

    I suspect that in the end, the Dems will be forced to scale back their ambitious taxation program and the tax structure will be reshaped to resemble the Republican approach. Industry lobbyists will flock to Washington DC and make their case to members of Congress in terms of how it affects their constituencies (and chances for re-election), Congress will begin amending Obama's budget to alleviate the burden on constituency businesses, and we'll basically be back at square one. That, or we're probably going to have quite a prolonged recession as it gets even more expensive to start and operate a business in this country.

    On the bright side, as cellular charges rise, wifi becomes a compelling alternative. We are seeing a lot of Skype-capable handhelds coming on the market, notably Android-powered phones, and one can foresee the day (hopefully soon) when dozens of generic Android handsets are available for cheap, that can make Skype calls at any hotspot. That may spell the end of the cellular industry's dominance in this country. If I were AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or T-Mobile, I would be investing in wi-fi so as to be on the winning side of that game.

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