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Japanese "Hate" For the iPhone All a Big Mistake

MBCook writes "AppleInsider has posted a great article explaining that Wired's story about Japanese iPhone hate was completely false and has been edited at least twice. The comments in the article were recycled and taken out of context, with those interviewed blogging about the mistakes. The piece then goes on to analyze the iPhone's standing in Japan, as well as some of the major factors working for and against it. At last it points out that the Wall Street Journal tried the same myth of failure just after the phone's launch in Japan, recycled from a myth the year before, pushed by a research company with a possible anti-Apple agenda."

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  1. Either way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who gives a fuck? Japan hates the iPhone, Japan doesn't hate the iPhone; it's a god-damned fucking piece of electronics, not an economic programme or school of politico-philosophical thought. Is it really so important for your sense of self-satisfaction that people you'll never meet in a country you never go to buy the same plastic shit as you do? Fucking Christ, what a sorry species.

    1. Re:Either way... by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is instinctive that people want to feel that they are making the right decisions. So when other people act similarly they receive validation that their choices are correct, even in minor lifestyle choices like buying Apple products.

      So when a whole country (well, not really) rejects a lifestyle choice that an iPhone user made, it makes them uncomfortable and they try to find reasons why their choice is different from the foreign norm. In this case, either they try to invalidate the data (which is hard to do) or they try to explain away the problem by diminishing the importance of the data.

      It is just a phone, but for many people it is also an expression of their personality. They don't want to be diminished, so they seek out those who are like-minded. This is the same type of behavior that can be seen at comic book conventions, furry conventions, and Star Trek conventions. Those of us who have no horse in this race should probably just stay as far away from the commotion as possible.

  2. Re:Everyone hates congress too by beelsebob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would I intentionally saddle myself with a phone that has fewer features - ALOT fewer - than my current Softbank model? A model that's 1.5 years old now?
    Because less is often more.

    Take for example the most commonly cited complaint about the iPhone â" no MMS. Why would you want MMS? You have email. All MMS does is adds another option to the menu system and makes life more complex. Not only that but because there's no fixed standard, it more often than not sends messages that the receiving phone can't read. And finally, MMS is massively more costly to send than email.

    So there you go, you'd buy something with fewer features, because often, fewer features but well implemented is better.

  3. comparing prices of xPhone apps by v1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    $344 of actual examples of popular Windows Mobile apps included on the iPhone:
    -Dashboard: WorldMate Pro $75 "world clocks and weather forecasts, flight and travel information"
    -real email client: Pocket Informant $25 "replacement for Pocket Outlook on the Pocket PC"
    -real web browser: none seem to exist.
    -real contacts: Photo Contacts PRO $30
    -Photo browser: Imageer $15
    -iPod: Pocket Player MP3 player $20
    -Movies: Pocket DVD studio $30
    -TV: HandiTV $20 "watch TV from mobile devices"
    -Dial up networking: PDANet $34 "use your mobile as a modem!"
    -Calculator: Revolutionary Calculator $30
    -Touch screen type input: Full Screen Keyboard $10
    -PDF: PDF Reader $25
    -Notes: List Pro $30 âoeManage your notesâ

    Wow... I had no idea windows mobile apps were so expensive! I just got a touch recently and have about 20 apps installed on it, all but three of which were free. The three I bought were $0.99, $1.99, and $2.99. The most expensive app I saw while browsing was an incredible VNC client that does everything plus makes breakfast, for $24.99. over 1/2 the apps in the above list are more expensive than that.

    Does MS get some insane cut on the apps or what? Why are they so incredibly more expensive?

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  4. #1 Music App by sabernar · · Score: 5, Informative

    My partners and I had the #1 Music app in Japan for several weeks last month (Boombox - http://tiny.cc/Lrd5g), so they are definitely interested in the iPhone. Just because they don't buy the phone in the same numbers as in the US doesn't mean they hate it. It seems like it's doing fairly well over there.

  5. Re:IMO by Garse+Janacek · · Score: 5, Informative

    The rebuke comes from AppleInsider. How partial can it be?

    Good point. If only it cited its sources, thus allowing some way for its claims to be verified.

    Come on now. This story is about blatant journalistic fraud. They give explicit documentation on how Wired completely fabricated important facts in order to make a sensational-sounding story. If their claim was "The iPhone is the best thing evar and EVERYONE LOVES IT", you'd have a point, but the article is mostly about how Wired repeatedly lied in its article, and then they present data to basically argue "the iPhone is doing pretty okay in Japan". They aren't making particularly inflated claims...

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  6. Re:Everyone hates congress too by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Informative

    In 2006 -- the year that Congress went from GOP to Democratic control -- there were 33 Senate races. Six Republican incumbents and no Democratic incumbents were defeated. There were three open seats. So 24 Senators out of 33 were re-elected.

    In the House, twenty-two GOP incumbents got the boot and there 34 open seats (including primary election losers); 379 out of 435 got re-elected.

    So in a particularly "revolutionary" and "tumultuous" election, 72% of Senators and 87% of Representatives were re-elected.

    I'd have to call that people "re-electing" their congressmen.

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  7. Re:Everyone hates congress too by seventhevening · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been there. I never saw any cultural opposition at all. The iPod was popular there, mcdonalds is pretty popular (and has some cool exclusive menu items), several english books were recently translated into Japanese and were very popular. Hollywood movies can perform well in Japanese box office. MLB seems to be more popular there than here. I think really the Japanese applaud things that are new or that fit the attributes they want. Where it comes from isn't that important. We just like playing a xenophobe card everytime the iPhone doesn't do well because it lacks features the Japanese want, or when the Xbox and 360 sell poorly because it lacks the kinds of titles the Japanese like best. It strikes me as extremely arrogant to complain that the only reason a product designed by the mighty Americans isn't selling MUST be because of xenophobia and couldn't be because they just don't WANT it.