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Smart Immigrants Going Home

olddotter writes "A 24-page paper on a reverse brain drain from the US back to home countries (PDF) is getting news coverage. Quoting: 'Our new paper, "America's Loss Is the World's Gain," finds that the vast majority of these returnees were relatively young. The average age was 30 for Indian returnees, and 33 for Chinese. They were highly educated, with degrees in management, technology, or science. Fifty-one percent of the Chinese held master's degrees and 41% had PhDs. Sixty-six percent of the Indians held a master's and 12.1% had PhDs. They were at very top of the educational distribution for these highly educated immigrant groups — precisely the kind of people who make the greatest contribution to the US economy and to business and job growth." Adding to the brain drain is a problem with slow US visa processing, since last November or so, that has been driving desirable students and scientists out of the country.

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  1. Re:Let them go by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's nothing special about the foreigners. We can make more.

    You can't make more Foreigner, AND THEY ARE TOTALLY SPECIAL!

    You're as cold as ice if you don't think so! Man, these head games you are playing really make me hot blooded...

    Fortunately, they are still alive, well, touring, and rocking, so we don't need to make more.

  2. Re:Good riddance by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm tired of the smell of curry.

    Then you, sir, are tired of life.

  3. Rest of the World by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Funny

    Our new paper, "America's Loss Is the World's Gain"...

    Shouldn't that be "America's Loss Is the Rest of the World's Gain"? I know you insist on calling us aliens and think we use strange units like metres and kilograms but we are all part of the same world.

  4. Protectionism by Legion_SB · · Score: 5, Funny

    Adding to the brain drain is a problem with slow US visa processing, since last November or so, that has been driving desirable students and scientists out of the country.

    I like my protectionism like I like my women: passive aggressive!

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  5. Wait a minute... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you saying my immigrant coworkers who aren't planning on leaving are stupid? That seems both rash and mean. You take it back!

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  6. Re:Tipping point by SIR_Taco · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, a melting pot would retain the heaviest, which the US has quite well

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  7. Re:Good riddance by carlzum · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm tired of the smell of curry.

    Oh no! The summary said PhDs and business managers were leaving, so I wasn't worried. But if the restaurant proprietors are going we have to act now. This is America, you can have your doctors and scientists, but for the love of God, don't take our food.

  8. Management? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 5, Funny

    They were highly educated, with degrees in management...

    So that's our plan for destroying the world!

  9. Re:good riddance by icannotthinkofaname · · Score: 3, Funny

    Everyone knows that the Germans invented everything important

    Like those ShamWow towels! :D They're made in Germany, and you know the Germans make good stuff. Just ask Vince! He won't steer you wrong. :)

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  10. You must be a liberal arts major :-) by jeko · · Score: 5, Funny

    I conclude that you pulled that figure out of your ass.

    Most people start college at 17 or 18. Eighteen plus four equals twenty-two, at least it does in my corner of the universe. I know I graduated college at twenty-two. Twenty-two or twenty-three plus seven years lands you in the neighborhood of thirty, again, for most values of thirty.

    Does the math work differently when it comes out of your ass? Perhaps you don't realize it's not customary to take seven years to finish an undergrad degree?

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  11. Re:Let them go by mooingyak · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's nothing special about the foreigners. We can make more.

    Well, not exactly. THEY can make more. If we make them, they're not foreigners.

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  12. Re:Tipping point by cjb658 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, at least we still have the most guns.

  13. Hey! Smart people! by Eil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get back on my lawn!

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  15. Re:H1B's leaving by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't you think this just means that America will have fewer people but those people will be risk takers (and one suspects heart breakers too). Plus, they will be the lucky half of the risk takers. Plus they have a Masters.

    Sounds pretty badass to me.

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  16. Re:This is bad strategy. by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thus they are *labor* not immigrants and many cannot simply "stay". If they were actually immigrating to be citizens and engineers, chances are the wages they would paid would be lucrative enough to get Americans to do the jobs since the immigrants would have the same chances at other jobs as Americans (eg, if engineering doesn't pay, do something else instead of being brought here because you are an engineer).

    No, it would increase the supply of skilled labor, thus reducing cost of labor across he board for those skilled positions. The immigrants would get paid less, and non-immigrant (native/already naturalized labor) would also get paid less.

    I think this is necessary if we want to fix our economy long-term... reduce labor costs to make them more in line with global labor costs. Reduce our standard of living to more sustainable levels (unless you want to keep borrowing from China to support your SoL).

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  17. Re:It is a shame... by tsm_sf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, treat them both the same way and see how far it gets you.

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  18. Re:H1B's leaving by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 5, Funny

    Filter your candidates for luck, you don't want unlucky people working for your company. Dump half the applications at random. Success!

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