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Should Job Seekers Tell Employers To Quit Snooping?

onehitwonder writes in with a CIO opinion piece arguing that potential employees need to stand up to employers who snoop the Web for insights into their after-work activities, often disqualifying them as a result. "Employers are increasingly trolling the web for information about prospective employees that they can use in their hiring decisions. Consequently, career experts advise job seekers to not post any photos, opinions or information on blogs and social networking websites (like Slashdot) that a potential employer might find remotely off-putting. Instead of cautioning job seekers to censor their activity online, we job seekers and defenders of our civil liberties should tell employers to stop snooping and to stop judging our behavior outside of work, writes CIO.com Senior Online Editor Meridith Levinson. By basing professional hiring decisions on candidates' personal lives and beliefs, employers are effectively legislating people's behavior, and they're creating an online environment where people can't express their true beliefs, state their unvarnished opinions, be themselves, and that runs contrary to the free, communal ethos of the Web. Employers that exploit the Web to snoop into and judge people's personal lives infringe on everyone's privacy, and their actions verge on discrimination."

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  1. Well by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Is it good to take a stand? Yes.

    Am I going to sacrifice my own career for this cause? No.

    While they shouldn't snoop, It isn't going to stop. Don't you snoop out your potential employers?

    Just don't let any non-friends see your Facebook.

    1. Re:Well by plover · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is it good to take a stand? Yes.

      Am I going to sacrifice my own career for this cause? No.

      Damn. I thought I was going to get that job after you announced you were taking a stand.

      "It's good for you to take a stand. Good for me, that is."

      --
      John
  2. Re:No, they don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm not sure that doing a web search is really "snooping" either--after all, what you put on the web is information you put out there. If you didn't want people to know it, you shouldn't have put it out there for everybody in the world to see.

    Now, if employers are breaking into your private disk space, that's different...

    Maybe I'll post this anonymously, so it can't be used against me...

  3. If it's public it isn't snooping. by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The subject line says it all - if it's public, it isn't snooping.

  4. Yeah, good luck with that. by holophrastic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, I'm an employer. Welcome to well-rounded individuals. Try writing good things around the web, and perhaps your potential employers will prefer you because of your life. Write crap, and don't be surprised.

    But really, are you going to turn down a job offer because the potential employer searched for you? You can "tell" potential employers that you don't want them snooping, but that doesn't give them any negative for doing so -- you'll still accept the job offer.

    But you do have boat-loads of control over your own personal freedom and civil liberties. If you don't want others to judge you, you get to be the judge. Start your own business, and run it any way you choose.

    But if you're looking to benefit from someone else's proven model, someone else's money, and someone else's risk, then yeah your liberties are going to go unrespected because you're the one throwing them away.

    You want liberty, take a look at what it's like to have complete freedom over a business of your own. You'll find that it ain't liberating in the ways that you were hoping.

    By the way, it's excellent, and it's amazing, and I love every minute of it -- now I own and operate two and a half businesses because it's so great.

    As always, take the risk, stake your life, then you can have it your way. You want to be an employee, and have your employer tell you what to do and even pay your taxes for you (well, most of them anyway), then you'd better believe that employer is going to look into you.

    Besides, what's this liberty on the web crap? Public domain is the name of the game.

    1. Re:Yeah, good luck with that. by arkhan_jg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But if you're looking to benefit from someone else's proven model, someone else's money, and someone else's risk, then yeah your liberties are going to go unrespected because you're the one throwing them away.

      I take exception to this remark; you're saying that only business owners get to have human rights - which is unvarnished bullshit.

      I work as a sysadmin in a private school. This is advantageous for both of us; they get a specialized person who can do a job no-one else there can, and I get to spend all my time working on the job I'm good at, instead of spending half my time on drumming up business and paperwork.

      I've worked for big companies, I've worked for small companies, I've even run a my own (very small) company. As an employer, you get to judge me on my public life; that's why it's public. You don't get to dig up my private and family life as bluntly, it's none of your damn business. I don't give up my right of free speech and right to privacy (which IS a human right in the EU) just because you pay me money to do work you can't.

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      Remember kids, it's all fun and games until someone commits wholesale galactic genocide.
  5. Re:Go look for another job. by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We all benefit in many ways from the fact that our society is becomingly increasingly interconnected. However, that comes at a price. While I appreciate your opinion on the matter, I can assure you this trend is only going to accelerate.

    People need to understand a simple concept: if you wouldn't feel comfortable saying something in front of a packed auditorium, you probably shouldn't say it in a public forum online. I absolutely defend an individual's right to express his views as he sees fit; similarly, I absolutely defend an employer's right to base his hiring decision on all publicly available information.

    For some, increased transparency is a good thing. For others, it may prove more a hindrance. It's up to the individual to be conscious of how public actions may impact future opportunities.

  6. Re:No, they don't by Nick+Ives · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In any case, if you are going to be so stubborn about infringing on our privacy, we are just going to have to pass legislation criminalising your behaviour, aren't we?

    But how will you know if a firm passed you over because of something you said online? It'd be impossible to enforce.

    It's just best not to worry about it. Firms who discriminate against people who aren't ashamed of their life and like to talk openly about it will wind up full of drones leaving all the creative people to assemble elsewhere. I hope.

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    Nick
  7. Obligatory xkcd by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 5, Insightful
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  8. Re:No, they don't by N1AK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I go for a job I do extensive research about the company I am applying to. During the process I will get as much information on who they employ, and then try and get as much information on any who seem relevant. This isn't uncommon, in fact almost anyone would say not investigating a possible employer is a big mistake. So why is it that we are worried if the employer treats hiring in the same way?

    The majority of people who are going to suffer by having people look for them online are people who don't attempt to maintain a separate internet persona and are also publicly doing things that deserve to get them in trouble. If I look up a candidate and find them on Slashdot (on the assumption it can be verified as them) and they regularly flame or troll then you can bet that would effect my hiring decision. At the same time if I found that they often gave good and tolerant answers it would also effect my decision, except this time in a positive manner.

    If you post information in public then expect employers to see it. If your employer was using devious methods to get hold of something you thought was private then yes it's an issue.