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VoIP Legal Status Worldwide?

Cigarra writes "There was much public debate going on during the last several months here in Paraguay, regarding the 'liberation of Internet,' that is, the lifting of the restriction on ISPs to connect directly to international carriers. Up until this week, they were forced to hire wholesale service from the State run telco, Copaco. During the last month, when the new regulation was almost ready, the real reason supporting the monopoly made it to the headlines: Copaco would fight for the monopoly, fearing VoIP based telephony. Finally, the regulator Conatel resolved today to end the monopoly, but a ruling on VoIP legal status was postponed for 'further study.' I guess this kind of 'problem' arose almost everywhere else in the world, so I ask the international slashdotters crowd: what is VoIP's legal status in your country / state / region? How well did incumbent telcos adapt to it, and overall, just how disruptive was this technology to established operators?"

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  1. In Canada by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Here, in Canada, it is totally free; as there is no single federal telecom monopoly and those are mostly private companies, the issue of monopoly is moot.

    Hopefully, this situation will help to drive the Bell Telephone Company of Canada into the ground, which could be sooner than we think as it was not bought by the Ontario Teacher's Fund.

    1. Re:In Canada by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Informative

      South Africa had banned VoIP technology until recently. There's lots of information in this 2001 article:

      http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/telecoms/2001/0103271307.asp?A=VPN&S=VPN&T=Section&O=SBR

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  2. Legal vs Allowed by Renraku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    VoIP is legal here in the United States.

    But I don't know how much longer it'll be allowed to live by the ISPs.

    We're kind of on a roller coaster ride debate as to whether or not ISPs should be able to decide what data goes over their lines. They want to be able to charge more for certain types of data (and you can bet your ass that data that competes with another wing of their business will be pretty damn expensive).

    When Bush was in office, I wouldn't have even blinked in surprise if I were told suddenly the ISPs decided that all YouTube traffic is now set to 14.4k speeds unless you pay more for it, but now that Obama's in office, its actually a debate rather than a eventuality.

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    1. Re:Legal vs Allowed by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was with you right up to that point. Speaking as a person who has served in the Navy, with lots of friends in the Army and Marine Corps, I can say with a high degree of confidence that you are an idiot. How's that armchair of yours? Comfy?

      I've had to sit and listen to too many soldiers tell me stories about rape to believe your anecdote. They invariably are a story of grief and remorse about how they didn't stop someone else from doing it. When you add to that that the published stats for rape of female military inductees in the Navy is over 25% - while rape statistics are nearly always under-reported, and rape allegations are almost never false although other kinds of abuse are potentially over-reported.

      The simple truth is that occupying militaries pretty much always commit rape on a broad scale, and ours is no exception, nor has it ever been. In addition, the use of prostitutes who were forced into the business in response to the devastation of the local economy due to war can only be seen as a kind of rape, and that is very much SOP for all soldiers anywhere, making war in any time and any place.

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    2. Re:Legal vs Allowed by bartwol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I never served...a fact of which I am not proud.

      I fully agree with your point, brief and unexplained though it may be.

      The parent's sweeping [mis]characterization of military personnel reflects a kind of bigotry that is common and, in many circles, acceptable here in the U.S. (and elsewhere). And yet, his ugly slur is no more correct than one he might make about African Americans or any other broadly defined population. Alas, such broad sweeping bigotry lives in the hearts of most people, and is only mitigated by their learned sensitivity ("forgiveness") to particular sub-classes.

      Anyway, thanks for saying it the way I felt about it.

  3. In Australia its legal by jonwil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And we have regulators who would go after any telco who tried to block it.
    In fact, many major ISPs are now offering VoIP as part of your Internet connection

    If the government tried to ban VoIP in this country, they wouldn't survive the next election.

    Maybe thats the problem for people in countries in Latin America and Africa and elsewhere where telephone and Internet service is controlled by state-run/state-backed monopolies. Maybe the people in these countries need to kick the government out (although that assumes that there is a government running the country and not a military general and an army with orders to shoot anyone who has such unclean thoughts as "lets kick the government out" or "lets fight the state-run telco")

  4. Only in monopoly markets by jrumney · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In most of the Western world, Governments decided in the 1980's and 1990's that competition was good for the consumer, and government telecommunications monopolies no longer exist. In those countries, VoIP is just seen as a natural evolution of healthy competition, and though individual operators might try to make life difficult for independent VoIP operators, and lobby for regulations to be imposed based on E911 (ie the ability of emergency services to find), there is no government support for banning healthy competition.

    In markets where there is still a government backed monopoly, there might be more inclination to protect that monopoly, but ultimately it is not good for the consumer or the overall economy to protect a dying technology and business model.

  5. VoIP in Latin America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Residential User:
    Mexico - Illegal if you don't buy from one of the Telmex concessionaires.
    Nicaragua - Illegal. You go to jail for it.
    Honduras - Illegal. Jail.
    Costa Rica - Illegal. Fine.
    Dominican Republic - Illegal. Jail.
    Panama - Legal. Do whatever you want.
    Colombia - Illegal. They disconnect your Internet line if they catch it.
    Venezuela - Legal. Chaves Monopoly.
    Brazil - Legal. Plenty of providers.
    Argentina - Legal. Plenty of providers.
    Chile - Legal. Plenty of providers.

    Termination (to leak, connect a VoIP gateway to phone lines or ISDN lines and provide termination to guys like Arbinet):

    Mexico: Illegal. Jail.
    Nicaragua: Illegal. Fine and Jail.
    Costa Rica: Illegal. Fine and Jail.
    Honduras: Illegal. Fine and Jail.
    Colombia: Illegal. Fine.
    Dominican Republic: Illegal. Fine and Jail.
    Venezuela: Illegal. Fine and Jail (and some worse stuff...)
    Brazil: Illegal. Fine and Jail (They just closed a huge leak there with 12 Cisco 5350s. Guys got fined in 2 million bucks)
    Argentina: Legal. You may get problems with your ISP.
    Rest: I don't know.

    1. Re:VoIP in Latin America by johannesg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm utterly amazed that in some countries you can apparently go to jail for using a certain type of telephone...

  6. Deep packet inspection used for blocking VoIP by yahyamf · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Dubai in the UAE as well as in most Gulf countries, VoIP is completely illegal, and the state run telcos use DPI technology to block it. This adds about 200ms of latency to *all* packets which the telcos think is an acceptable tradeoff to preserve their monopoly revenue.