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French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubuntu

Ynot_82 writes "The French national police force, the Gendarmerie Nationale, has spoken about their migration away from the Windows platform to Linux. Estimated to have already saved the force 50 Million Euros, the migration is due to be completed on all 90,000 workstations by 2015. Of the move, Lt. Col. Guimard had this comment: '"Moving from Microsoft XP to Vista would not have brought us many advantages and Microsoft said it would require training of users. Moving from XP to Ubuntu, however, proved very easy. The two biggest differences are the icons and the games. Games are not our priority."'"

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  1. Games are not our priority by macxcool · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... but solitaire and minesweeper are great training for stakeouts ;-)

    1. Re:Games are not our priority by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Funny

      How do they ever expect to catch Riddler?

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    2. Re:Games are not our priority by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

      ... but solitaire and minesweeper are great training for stakeouts ;-)

      Doesn't the default version of Ubuntu have both? Mine does along with Chess, Othello, Tetris, Sudoku, Mahjongg, Blackjack, and a few others.

    3. Re:Games are not our priority by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Funny

      In fact, solitaire really is great training for using a mouse. Time and again I have seen novice computer users of all ages, who would otherwise struggle with the mouse, become quite proficient after only an hour or so playing solitaire.

      Now if they could just be gotten to stop playing solitaire afterwards, they could move on to other lessons.

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    4. Re:Games are not our priority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now if they could just be gotten to stop playing solitaire afterwards, they could move on to other lessons.

      I could say the same for fortune. Show a linux noob how to start a terminal and type fortune, then how to press up-arrow to use the history, and you can lean back for an hour or so. Not great console training, but it's a start. :D

    5. Re:Games are not our priority by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Interesting

          Fortune is good for teaching people how do web programming.

          Make it show Fortune.

          Make it format pretty.

          Keep clicking reload, and keep making it prettier. :)

          I actually put it back into my personal site. I got the BOFH excuses fortune file, so whenever someone needs an excuse, they can just click.

          "Power Company having EMP problems with their reactor" :)

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    6. Re:Games are not our priority by digitalunity · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, by default Ubuntu includes several more games than Windows. I'd consider them better games also.

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    7. Re:Games are not our priority by Abreu · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to mention the fact that you can install a lot more from the repositories

      ...including the ultimate destroyer of productivity: Battle for Wesnoth!

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    8. Re:Games are not our priority by Annorax · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget Nethack! The best way to learn the basics of moving around in vi. Back in the day, nethack was mesmerizing.

    9. Re:Games are not our priority by SleepingWaterBear · · Score: 5, Informative

      Come on, how much better can minesweeper or solitaire be?

      Well, the minesweeper's basically identical, but Aisleriot solitaire (the default Gnome solitaire game) comes with 80 different solitaire variants, which beats the 3 or so that come with windows by a good ways. I personally like Hopscotch.

      Gnome also comes with something like 17 games by default, and you can install hundreds more if you want them without even opening a web browser. I will grant that the networked hearts/spades games in XP are something I would like to see an equivalent to in Ubuntu.

    10. Re:Games are not our priority by emjay88 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I still find nethack mesmerising, you insensitive clod!

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    11. Re:Games are not our priority by Nutria · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... and finding and downloading installable games are easier for Ubuntu IMHO. want a tetris clone, fire up Aptitude and .. oh there is one click on it and install presto.

      Except that it requires the root password, and lusers aren't given root.

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  2. Run away or I shall taunt you a second time by Teresita · · Score: 5, Funny

    You don' frighten us, Microsoft pig-dogs!

    1. Re:Run away or I shall taunt you a second time by MacColossus · · Score: 5, Funny

      They said they were looking for the Vista Grail. I told them we already have one.

    2. Re:Run away or I shall taunt you a second time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fetchez la vache!

  3. Go France! by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now if only state and federal agencies in the US would do some of the same. Sadly, so long as corporations are allowed to lobby, the pork train will probably continue.

    1. Re:Go France! by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sadly, so long as corporations are allowed to lobby, the pork train will probably continue.

      Hey, it's not "pork", it's an "economic stimulus".

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    2. Re:Go France! by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Honestly, not supporting a business that resides in your nation during the current state of the economy is a pretty bad thing for the government to do.

      But which companies to support? Red Hat is based in the USA as are many other Linux-based companies. The thing is, when you keep buying things from a certain company just because its made in the USA, you help monopolies and deny justice. Why would the justice department pass a ruling on MS if everything they use is MS based and in the short term it would cost more money to switch?

      The point is that the government should be helping to foster the development of it's own economy by investing into it.

      But why support a company convicted of running an abusive monopoly? Sure, if it was cheaper to do it the MS way it might make some sense, but compared to Linux, MS is very expensive for little to no quality benefit. By buying MS products governments are helping MS build an even larger monopoly along with effectively tying the hands of judges in monopoly cases.

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    3. Re:Go France! by Caue · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yeah. Slashdotters forget basic economy like the rest of North Americans. Hurray closed markets... oh wait, I guess not.

      If someone needs to explain to you why this is such a dumbass idea, try the cotton or the corn lobby. They will explain how that kind of thinking made americans choose the least efficient bio-fuel. Go sugarcane, go (that was a no-brainer by the way.. sugarcane = sugar = energy for your children AND you car)!

    4. Re:Go France! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If your choice is between equivalent options, one foreign and one domestic, then perhaps that is true. However, if the options are not equivalent, that doesn't necessarily hold.

      In this case, for instance, the contention is that a government agency can save millions of dollars by using Linux. Millions of dollars saved is millions you don't have to collect in taxes, or millions that you can do other things with(depending on whether you think the organization in question should focus on present level of service, controlling costs, or present level of cost, improving service).

      If a government can actually save money by using linux, then their using Windows amounts to overtaxing their citizens for the benefit of a private corporation. That is bad.

    5. Re:Go France! by Stewie241 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In some cases, I would agree. However this is an issue of a police force saving money, not just spending money differently. They could easily use local support agencies for their Linux and it would still help drive the economy.

      I'd rather they save money and redistribute it as needed rather than going for the more expensive option for the sake of it.

      The other problem with the car thing, is what cars are actually made in Canada? Each of the big 3 only make about 6 different vehicles in Canada, and none of them compare in luxury to an MB. Not only that, but the MB is apparently made from Canadian steel anyway, so...

    6. Re:Go France! by Enderandrew · · Score: 2, Informative

      They were found guilty of anti-trust violations with penalties enforced for their transgressions. The sad thing is that the whole thing is a joke. Bundling IE isn't really a crime. Bundling WMP isn't a crime. However, the Halloween Documents suggest there were serious illegal, anti-competitive practices at play that no one ever really hit them for.

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    7. Re:Go France! by IdleTime · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And the corn syrup produced in such copious amounts can now be found around Americans waists...

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    8. Re:Go France! by j79zlr · · Score: 2, Informative

      That is not really how it works though. I have done some engineering work on DOD projects a long while ago and they require everything to be US made. Everything. I just remember that the conduit runs cost approximately 4x's average construction cost since all of the steel used in the piping and the fittings had to be made in the USA.

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    9. Re:Go France! by Darby · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, it's not "pork", it's an "economic stimulus".

      In a similar vein to "I economically stimulated your wife last night" ;-)

    10. Re:Go France! by turgid · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except they won't be saving the money, it's going to go to some other crazy project.

      What, like educating children, feeding the poor, healing the sick and looking after the elderly and infirm?

    11. Re:Go France! by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1: The police are funded by the taxpayer - if they can save the money then taxpayers have more to spend on imaginary things like belief-in-house-prices. According to the businessmen and politicians this is a Good Thing. The economists and mathematicians disagree.

      2: The police are in the business of keeping us safe and secure. Given the choice of a *nix based system and Windows where would you want your criminal (or otherwise) record stored?

      3: Is "THE ECONOMY!" the new "TERRORISM!"?

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    12. Re:Go France! by jbengt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your logic is ill.
      If all else is equal, the more expensive option puts a drag on the economy, the cheaper option frees up money for other productive uses.

    13. Re:Go France! by dedazo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why is it so difficult to understand that breaking the law does not equal committing a crime? Would you be OK with the police putting you away for a year because they caught you going 5mph over the speed limit? After all, you did break a law by doing so.

      A criminal conviction can result in prison time, execution and/or a fine. A civil judgment will never land you in jail, it will never get you killed (although it can bankrupt you) and it does not imply criminal behavior in any way. It only means you were found to have broken the law in some way.

      Microsoft was found to be in violation of antitrust law because they abused their position as a monopoly. They were never "convicted" of anything, and the legal proceedings against them were civil, not criminal.

      If you think that's a semantic point, consider having a felony (murder) on your record, as opposed to a misdemeanor (jaywalking). Then try passing a background check the next time you are up for a job.

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    14. Re:Go France! by Lars512 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Defense has additional and different concerns than other areas of government. They need to make sure that even if a war broke out with a country that you and I buy components from, the military can still source the components to build what they need. If that means keeping a less efficient industry in business in the States, consider it an expensive insurance policy.

      It makes perfect sense, but it's also a bit funny when you consider that DOD itself is just an enormous insurance policy. Or at least, it should be...

  4. Duh by spykemail · · Score: 5, Funny

    Free is cheaper. Who knew?

    1. Re:Duh by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Except for most of the suits I've dealt with at my last two companies. We keep talking about the need to save money and cut costs, so we lay people off. When I show them articles how IBM saved over 100 million dollars last year migrating more Windows systems to Linux, they balk at the notion. We literally use everything from Office 97 to 2007 here, and we can't share documents internally. We had a big crisis when departments couldn't work together on a budget, because no one could open each other's files.

      I suggested OpenOffice to several execs, and not a single one would consider moving away from Office. It is just unthinkable. They keep insisting they want everyone on the same version of Office (and we have Mac users with Mac Office) but they won't buy new Office 2007 licenses for everyone. They want a solution that is free, but they are terrified of free software.

      Instead, they'll cave and buy more Office 2007 licenses, and fire more people to make up the difference.

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    2. Re:Duh by Totenglocke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your anecdote further strengthens my view that American companies are all run by idiots. I swear, American companies sit down and figure out the most efficient way to run the company and then say "Ok, great -- lets do the exact opposite".

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    3. Re:Duh by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They aren't run by idiots. They're run by selfish bastards. There's a big difference.

      An idiot will make you fill out form 22/B in order to get a new stapler because he doesn't know of any other solution. A selfish bastard will make you fill out form 22/B in order to get a new stapler because he wants to save money on staplers and knows that most people won't take the time unless they really really need one.

      This may seem like the effects are similar, but they aren't: the idiot, when he hears of a more efficient way, will at least consider changing it or at worst be very confused. The selfish bastard, when he hears of a more efficient way, will fire the guy who made the suggestion for undermining his authority. It's a difference between Dogbert and the PHB.

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    4. Re:Duh by Tuoqui · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People lack the balls to make such a big change.

      Remember 'Noone got fired for choosing Microsoft' is a famous line the higher up IT guys like to wave around. Fact of the matter is that noone ever got fired for choosing open source either. It's poor implementation of any solution that gets people fired.

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    5. Re:Duh by Matt+Perry · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I suggested OpenOffice to several execs, and not a single one would consider moving away from Office. It is just unthinkable.

      How did you mention it? Did you write a proposal that examined the financial ramifications of switching from MS Office to OpenOffice, including not only licensing costs but also retraining expenses? Did you outline the benefits of switching including how quality would be improved? Did you explain possible alternatives including the possibility of doing nothing? This is how executives think. They want to see a written business case before they'll consider taking actions like you propose. You'll have to make your case for how the company will improve their operations, save time and money, and most importantly how the success of the project will be measured.

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    6. Re:Duh by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It is only power users who really know Excel that will struggle to relearn those tasks in Calc.

      Whups (Ding!) Right on many counts, wrong on the implication there.

      In the business world, at least among the top 10 banks, Excel is a defacto standard -- not just for moving spreadsheets, but for moving software between companies. An absolutely huge amount of business is transacted via business rules living entirely in spreadsheet VBA. I know, I developed some of it (contemptable, perhaps, but a guy has to eat). Throw the spreadsheet across the hall to the next company and they can run it irrespective of what infrastructure the other company is running.

      It's ugly, I know, but it's the rule. There's more than intellectual inertia keeping people from shifting to FOSS. I'm just really glad that some organisations are making the shift despite the huge embedded world of VBA.

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  5. French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubuntu? by canuck08 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubuntu."

    Jesus Christ! Windows was killing millions of people in France?!?!

  6. Applications already migrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the summary doesn't mention, but is worth noting, is that they were already using open source programs where possible---Firefox, Thunderbird, OOo. Now I think their migration is wonderful, but I suspect it might have been somewhat more difficult if users were asked to adjust to new programs, as well.

    1. Re:Applications already migrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      They migrated their applications first, as part of a phased rollout, aimed at being a first step before the migration to Linux.

      So the users did migrate applications, it just wasn't at the same time as changing operating system.

    2. Re:Applications already migrated by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What the summary doesn't mention, but is worth noting, is that they were already using open source programs where possible---Firefox, Thunderbird, OOo. Now I think their migration is wonderful, but I suspect it might have been somewhat more difficult if users were asked to adjust to new programs, as well.

      Of course it would have been more difficult. That just means they did it right, switching to Free applications first then to the Free OS. They probably saved money in the first step as well as the second, and lowered the burden by doing it phased rather than dumping it all on the users at once.

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  7. Re:did i read that wrong? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes.
    I did have to pause a moment to think millions of what? Initially I thought people.

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  8. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jesus Christ! Windows was killing millions of people in France?!?!

    Why do you think they call it the 'Blue Screen of Death'?

  9. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by nixdroid · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, no, millions of _Francs_. About $1.98.

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  10. Re:Allies? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    So can we now call Linux the Allies coming to save France? I didn't want to 'call' the other side of that.....

    No! No, way! You absolutely, positively are NOT going to trick me into saying that Microsoft is the Axis of Evil! Do you have any idea how fast I'd be modded down by the Microsoft fanboys? Forget it! I'm not doing it!

  11. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And why do you think the French sigh of exasperation is "sacre bleu"?

  12. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not just in France, the summary says Euros, so people all over Europe.

  13. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, it's a reference the Virgin Mary, for whom the color blue is sacred.

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  15. For information by godrik · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Gendarmerie Nationale already used free software daily such as open office. The migration would have been more complicated is they were using MS Office.

    1. Re:For information by getclear · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not particularly, they would have had to offer retraining from 2003 to 2007, as well as on the new OS.

    2. Re:For information by godrik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My point was that moving from office 2003/windows to openoffice/ubuntu would induce much more compatibility issues than from openoffice/windows. since the file format are fully compatible.

  16. No, that's not what they did by kenh · · Score: 5, Informative

    They saved millions by migrating 90,000 desktops to OpenOffice, they have migrated only 5,000 desktops to Ubuntu, they plan for 15,000 by the end of 2009, and 90,000 by 2015. (IIRC).

    The title of the article, and the title of the slashdot posting is inaccurate - the savings are real, but the reason was not Ubuntu - it was OpenOffice.

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    1. Re:No, that's not what they did by fm6 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The title of the article, and the title of the slashdot posting is inaccurate...

      What's your point?

  17. This just in from the ticker. French police save m by gd23ka · · Score: 2, Funny

    French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubuntu

    French Police are going door to door these past days informing citizens of the long-term health
    effects of Windows. The so far largest campaign for public health in the history of France is
    expected to continue for another week and is aiming for a coverage of over 90% of the nation's
    households. Jean Trudeaux, an elderly villager in the Bretagne recalls opening the door to officers
    early in the afternoon and being asked if he owned a computer. Acknowledging the possession of
    a computing device, Trudeaux learned of the immense cardiovascular risks associated with using
    inferior desktop software that is sold to an unsuspecting public bundled with almost every sale
    of computer hardware. At the end of the conversation with the officers, Trudeaux remarks:
    "I don't use my computer that often but that's mainly because it's such a hassle to do anything
    with it and then I get really really mad".

    While the campaign has certainly not escaped the attention of Microsoft it has also been noted
    by the medical profession world-wide. In an interview with Dr. Francois Boudoir, one of the foremost
    advancers of the field of cardiology in France the connection was quickly made between reducing the
    amount of time spent in distress to downright rage and the more than obvious benefits thus incurred
    for cardio health. "This campaign will save millions of lives in the long run and we need to look at
    this problem from more angles than just the cardiologist's perspective. This is also a quality of
    life issue."

  18. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Funny

    You?

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  19. There are 2 separate national police force by thirty-seven · · Score: 5, Informative

    The French national police force, the Gendarmerie Nationale...

    Actually, there are two separate national police forces in France.

    The Gendarmerie Nationale is, (adapted from Wikipedia):

    the national gendarmerie (a military body charged with police duties among civilian populations) and military police force. Its missions include:

    • The policing of the countryside, rivers and coastal areas, and small towns with populations under 10,000. About half the French population is under the direct jurisdiction of the Gendarmerie.
    • Criminal investigations under judiciary supervision.
    • Crowd control and other security activities.
    • The security of airports and military installations, as well as all investigations relating to the military, including in foreign interventions.
    • Participations in ceremonies involving foreign heads of states or heads of governments.
    • Provision of Military police services to the Military of France.

    The Police Nationale is, (adapted from Wikipedia):

    the main civil law enforcement agency of France, with primary jurisdiction in cities and large towns. In those larger cities and towns, its mission includes:

    • Conducting security operations (patrols, traffic control, identity checks...).
    • Conducting criminal enquiries, serving search warrants, etc under the orders and supervision of the Investigating magistrates of the judiciary. It maintains specific services ("judicial police") for criminal enquiries.
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  20. Read the original report - you'll feel much better by denzacar · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to Guimard the move to open source has also helped to reduce maintenance costs.
    Keeping GNU/Linux desktops up to date is much easier, he says.
    "Previously, one of us would be travelling all year just to install a new version of some anti virus application on the desktops in the Gendarmerie's outposts on the islands in French Polynesia.
    A similar operation now is finished within two weeks and does not require travelling.

    Aaah... government work.
    Not only do they find an exceptionally complicated way to solve a simple problem - they don't know when to keep their mouth shut when it goes in their favor.
    Traveling around French Polynesian islands updating anti-virus software for living?

    Why yes. It is MUCH better to sit in some windowless room instead.

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  21. Re:Mandriva snubbed? by basiles · · Score: 5, Informative

    First, a small precision: The Gendarmerie Nationale is not exactly the French national police (called Police Nationale in French), but an armed force (the fourth french armed force, after infantery Armée de Terre, navy = Marine Nationale, air force = Armée de l'Air). The small difference between Gendarmerie & Police is that Gendarmerie members are exactly soldiers (with strict military discipline).

    In practice, Gendarmerie tend to work in rural or semi-rural areas, while Police tend to work in urban zones (actually, there exist some kind of competition between Gendarmerie and Police, which gives interesting french thriller films and books) And they have different legal abilities. For example, in some limited cases, a Gendarme can legally shoot his gun first, while in principle a Policier (policeman) can use his gun (policemen and gendarmes are armed with guns) only for self defense (but IANAL so I may be wrong).

    Gendarmerie is centralized and military, so it was easy to order them to switch at once to Linux [no training needed; just an official order from a high-rank official]. And I hear their IT department was strong enough to customize (without subcontractors) some Ubuntu distribution to the exact needs of Gendarmerie (which includes access to some peculiar databases). This could be an explanation of why Gendarmerie did not need any support from Mandriva.

    But Mandriva still has several French state contracts, including even research contracts on collaborative projects.

    Disclaimer: I do work sometimes with Mandriva on collaborative research projects (such as GGCC).

  22. Re:Sadly, "thanks" is all those programmers will g by initdeep · · Score: 4, Informative

    no
    they donated their code.

    if they wanted to get paid for their code, they should have not donated their time.

  23. Mandriva? by generalchaos23 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am surprised that they didn't go with Mandriva, seeing how I am pretty sure they are based in France.

  24. So now you have a project plan by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1: Switch your applications to Open Source.
    2: Switch your operating systems.

    And ironically, the best way to switch people away from Windows is to port free and open source applications to the platform.
     

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  25. Re:Pretty easy? by Dan+Ost · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How much training have you received in using the apps that you use 90% of the time?

    Just curious.

    I don't know anyone who has received formal training in how to use their email client, web browser, word processor, or presentation software. If they don't
    know how to do something, they simply ask peer who does.

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  26. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by jamstar7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, shut up and eat your 'freedom fries' already

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  27. Minor correction by sodul · · Score: 2, Informative

    Gendarmerie Nationale is a branch of the French army, and are not the police. One major difference is that they are allowed to shoot to kill, while the police is not allowed to shoot even after they get shot at and are injured.

    1. Re:Minor correction by owlstead · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "while the police is not allowed to shoot even after they get shot at and are injured"

      They can only shoot their side arm after being buried 6 feet under? Or do they have to go to the arcade like the rest of us?

  28. Re: French Police Save Millions Switching To Ubunt by Fenax · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Bleu" was a voluntary mistake. Preventing to say "Dieu" (god) at that time it was forbidden to curse his name, but people did it none the less, just hid themself a bit" This guy is quite famous in curses. Sacre is the ceremony for making someone holy or something like that.

  29. Where is GORILLA.BAS? by arth1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The games that come with Vista are quite a bit better than gnome-games:

    Chess Titans
    Freecell
    Hearts
    Inkball
    Mahjong Titans
    Minesweeper
    Purble Place
    Solitaire
    Spider Solitaire

    Most of these have been updated quite a bit, both with respect to looks, sounds and playability.

    Although I miss pinball, I miss gorilla.bas even more :-)

  30. *Microsoft* surrenders! by billstewart · · Score: 4, Funny

    The IBM PC was a hamster wheel, and MS-DOS smelled of Elderberries...

    And what is the air velocity of a chair thrown by a CEO?

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  31. save by TrueRecord · · Score: 2, Funny

    French Police Save Millions

    At first I was so glad and thought they saved millions of people.

    But I was wrong it was again about money...

  32. 50 million EU... about 500 policemen by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Informative

    Staggering.

    Essentially 500 jobs worth of money shipped to bill gates every year.

    And that is just france.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.