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2.0 Beta Chrome On Windows, Chromium On Linux

AlienRancher writes "Google launched this morning a new beta version of Chrome 2.0: 'The best thing about this new beta is speed — it's 25% faster on our V8 benchmark and 35% faster on the Sunspider benchmark than the current stable channel version and almost twice as fast when compared to our original beta version.' Other enhancements include user script support (greasemonkey-like) and form auto-fill." And reader Lee Mathews adds news of the open source version, Chromium, on Linux: "Not only has Chromium gotten easier to take for a test drive thanks to the personal package archive for Ubuntu Chrome daily build team, but development on the browser is also progressing nicely. Despite being a very early build, Chromium on Linux feels solid and boasts the same blazing speed the Windows users have been enjoying for months."

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  1. Privoxy = Adblock for Chrome by Markos · · Score: 4, Informative

    See title.

    1. Re:Privoxy = Adblock for Chrome by LiSrt · · Score: 4, Informative

      I tried it once, there just wasn't the speed and ease-of-use that adblock plus provides:

      *right click*

      *block*

      *edit filter*

      *OK*

      Done.

  2. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Edit your hosts file (theres even one for Windows), and put in all adservers to redirect to localhost. There. No ads, similarly, no extra bloat from Adblock. Plus, it works on whatever, e-mail, browsers, etc.

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  3. Re:Wake me up when... by Darkness404 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Edit your hosts file to block all ad servers. Its quick and painless. As for NoScript, I'm not a huge fan of it (its more of a pain then anything else, and as a Linux/obscure pre-alpha release user most generic attacks fail) so I haven't found a substitute.

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  4. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by blahbooboo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Edit your hosts file (theres even one for Windows), and put in all adservers to redirect to localhost. There. No ads, similarly, no extra bloat from Adblock. Plus, it works on whatever, e-mail, browsers, etc.

    Thanks for the tip. But this has been discussed before on slashdot the problems with the privoxy and host file mechanisms.

  5. direct download link (server already slow) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Try this with a multi-connection download

    http://cache.pack.google.com/edgedl/chrome/install/169.1/chrome_installer.exe

  6. Namespace collision by Valacosa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Chromium? A year from now, when I do an apt-get expecting to download a Raptor-style shooter, I'll be downloading a browser instead. Why didn't they pick a name which wasn't already taken?

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    1. Re:Namespace collision by natrixgli · · Score: 3, Informative

      To apt-get the browser, you'll need to use "chromium-browser" so I don't think it'll be an issue.

    2. Re:Namespace collision by danhm · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's only called "Chromium" because it's an unofficial build; once Google finally releases a GNU/Linux version it is expected that it will also be called Google Chrome. At least that's what the article implies.

  7. Re:Is this a WINE wrapper? by corychristison · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not a wrapper.

    Check out the Chromium Wiki for more info:
    http://dev.chromium.org/Home

  8. Re:Did they say it was to be based on GTK? by Plug · · Score: 4, Informative

    See the "this browser is not ready" start page:

    Chromium is an open source browser project. Google Chrome is a browser from Google, based on the Chromium project. This is a build of Chromium. No versions of Google Chrome for Linux will exist until Google makes an official release.

  9. Re:but does it by Blue+Stone · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do you mean the stupid and annoying Googleupdate, that sits there. All the time. Running even when you aren't using any Google software? And that even when it runs on a schedule, will sit there all the time anyway, doing nothing?

    Definitely a negative side to using any of Google's apps.

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  10. Re:Chrome still misses the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    and you are still missing the point ...

    the idea behind chrome is a rearchitecting of the browser - and thus, it isn't just something that they could do to firefox via some mods .. its a bit deeper than that

    perhaps introduce mods into chromium might be a better method methinks ..

  11. Re:Obnoxious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, there is a dialog box when the browser is first run. You likely clicked through it

  12. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by jeanph01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well I found out how to do it. I do not have ads anymore in chrome... Go here and follow instructions : http://www.adsweep.org/ Basically, since Chrome now support Greasemonkey scripts, you just have to have a good ad blocking script and adsweep is one. I wonder what will be the future extension mecanism of Chrome but with Greasemonkey, there is something very usefull and integrated in the web pages we use. So this is definitely interesting.

  13. Re:Wake me up when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    And it's not just ABP and NoScript!

    What about the awesome web developer toolbar? firebug? selenium? tamper data? foxyproxy? DOM inspector? down them all? ...

    What it lacks in [literally countless] features (built-in or via extensions) and customizability (is that even a word?), it makes up for in spyware seemingly (RLZ identifier, clientID, logging everything you type in the address bar, etc)

    Thanks, but no thanks.

  14. how to remove (its not that simple) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    its not in msconfig as its installed a service (they thought of that) even hijackthis wont kill it due to permissions (it runs as system) if its running it puts itself right back

    to remove it you need to
    start>run>services.msc
    find google service in list, double click it and take note of the service name
    it should be something like googleupdatesvc(randomcharacters)
    stop the service (if its running)
    then open a command prompt (in admin mode if you are on vista) and type
    sc delete "nameofgoogleservice"
    then go into controlpanel>scheduled tasks
    and delete the google job

    and voila its not running anymore, then for full piece of mind delete the googleupdate exe in its folder.

    As you can see, its just as malicious to remove as most spyware, so we (our company) treats it as such, the fact that its google[donoevil] means nothing to us as we can only judge by an applications behaviour

    1. Re:how to remove (its not that simple) by Onyma · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just open task manager, kill the EXE process which ends the service, and then remove it via MSConfig... and it's gone. I also do delete the EXE just to keep Google apps from restarting it.

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  15. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by Eil · · Score: 5, Informative

    Edit your hosts file (theres even one for Windows), and put in all adservers to redirect to localhost. There. No ads, similarly, no extra bloat from Adblock. Plus, it works on whatever, e-mail, browsers, etc.

    While somewhat effective, that's a very crude way of blocking ads. Adblock can block ads and other content based on regular expressions (for example, */ads/*) and can auto-subscribe to a regularly-updated blocklist. I especially like how you can pretty much click on a particular element and say, "here, block this" whether it's an ad or not. And it doesn't really add any noticeable bloat to the browser. My only gripe is that it doesn't support more browsers.

  16. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by blahbooboo · · Score: 1, Informative

    Use SRWare Iron ... it has what you're asking for.

    It's based on Chromium, but without all the bad stuff plus AdBlock and more ...

    http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_news.php

    http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php

    11.10.2008: Adblocker integrated in Iron

    The wish of many users comes true: We integrated an Adblocker in Iron!

    With a filterlist so nearly all online-advertising can be blocked. A working list can be downloaded here and just has to be copied to the Iron folder (e.g: C:\Program Files\SRWare Iron\). Note: You must first get the latest version of Iron you can find under "Downloads".

    So Iron is the first Chromium based webbrowser worldwide which has an adblocker included.

    And ... SRWare Iron has a proper installer - per default it installs in "C:\Program Files", which is where applications belong.

    Unlike Chrome - which installs itself in "C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\...." - argh - duh.

    Wow, this is very promising! Thanks for the tip! Trying it out now!

  17. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Doesn't work nearly so well as adblock.

    And with a big enough hosts file windows can take an extra 30 seconds to boot while it loads all that into the DNS cache.

    And you can't wildcard hosts, so it's a pretty kludgey workaround actually.

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  18. there's a fork by nephridium · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've posted it before and I'll post it again (seems most people still don't know about it): there is a fork from the Chromium project that not only does away with all the "phoning home features" including the annoying background-lurking installer, it also allows for an ad-blocker (looking at the forums, several different ones are available apparently, though I'm using the hosts file myself): Get it here

    They also got a "portable" version that requires no installation and stores all settings in the Iron folder (which I'm using).

    The source code is also available.

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  19. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's not proper. Per default it should install to %ProgramFiles%, which is often C:\Program Files, but not always. The user local location is a good safe place to install for most apps, especially beta versions. We really need to get away from the Windows "The only user is me, and I can do anything!" mentality that causes so many problems.

  20. Linux version isn't ready at all.... by Pausanias · · Score: 3, Informative

    Allright, I decided to bite and put in the PPA repositories into my synaptic in Ubuntu Intrepid. Installed chromium-browser. Neither slashdot nor NY times loaded at all. Proceeded to remove the repository given that it was a daily build. Not that you can blame them. When the browser stars, it tells you that it's pre-alpha and that it's gotten too much exposure, with too many people trying it out and expecting it to work.

  21. Re:Firefox is a stinking pile of garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Except it's not accurate, as threads!=processes. Chrome and IE8 are multiprocess, but Firefox has to be multithreaded. Here, a random search on bugzilla turns up this bug which is directly related to multithreading - there's no reason a program would lock on a semaphore if it wasn't multithreaded. Or this one, race conditions are solely a problem with multithreaded applications.

  22. Re:Still waiting for adblock :( by FishWithAHammer · · Score: 1, Informative

    Unlike Chrome - which installs itself in "C:\Documents and Settings\\...." - argh - duh.

    This is correct behavior. %ProgramFiles% is not the only legal place to put programs.

    You do realize you can run programs out of $HOME on Linux too, right?

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  23. Re:Firefox is a stinking pile of garbage by andy.ruddock · · Score: 2, Informative

    race conditions are solely a problem with multithreaded applications.

    No they're not. They're a problem when a single resource is to be used by multiple consumers.
    Wikipedia explains it quite nicely.

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  24. Re:Firefox is a stinking pile of garbage by eulernet · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mod the parent troll !

    Chrome is very responsive, but come on, IE 7 is slow as hell !
    Try to use about:blank as the start page, and you'll see that it takes around 2-3 seconds to start, with a message saying that it starts to connect !
    Its Javascript engine is super slow, so using GMail is a PITA. As a developer, I have encountered nasty bugs in IE (like authentication problems, that need to reset the preferences !), so I don't trust this browser.

    I didn't test IE8, since I never install MS betas anymore. Having tested a few of their hard-to-remove products was enough for me.

    Anyway, I agree that Firefox gets worse and worse, not because of the memory isolation (who cares ?), but because it's slow to start.
    Anyway, the plugins definitely make it the best browser experience !

    Chrome is very fast and nice, but if you wait for AdBlock, it's like waiting for TV channels to stop ads.

    Frankly, you should stop using speed as a reason to use a browser.
    The main point now is TRUST.
    I trust in Firefox+AdBlock+NoScript more than any other browser.

  25. Re:Wake me up when... by eulernet · · Score: 4, Informative

    Note also that when using hosts, the whole computer tends to slow down when your hosts file is very large (install SpyBot and use the vaccination tool, and you'll see what I mean).

    Also, when you use XP Pro with a webserver, the localhost blocking will show your site, since basically you do something like www.doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1, which is VERY uncomfortable.

  26. Re:Chrome - Feels Like A Running A New Computer by Yfrwlf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow, maybe Firefox 1 and 2, but 3 seems to have done away with that problem. I leave Firefox 3 open all the time and never have an issue, and I'm running an oldish computer by today's standards (AMD Athlon 64, AGP GFX, etc).

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  27. Also, Chrome and IE by benjymouse · · Score: 2, Informative

    Also, Chrome and IE are the only browsers with any meaningful sandboxing. Chrome actually leads the pack with multiple sandbox mechanisms on Vista where it uses its own sandbox and in addition to that the Vista low integrity process mode (same as IE protected mode).

    Firefox now holds the dubious honor of being the browser with the most vulnerabilities. I believe that this fact along with no sandboxing (no mitigation of vulnerabilities) and a rising market share will mean that it is only a matter of time before FF is hit with exploits. And that will be a downfall for the "secure" browser.

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  28. Re:Wake me up when... by ndixon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Edit your hosts file to block all ad servers. Its quick and painless.

    Not when you don't have local admin rights.

    It's also a system-wide setting.
    You can't have a per-user hosts file.

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  29. Stop the Chrome/Google extention FUD please by riffzifnab · · Score: 3, Informative