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Universal Remote's Days Are Numbered

theodp writes "While the universal remote has served humanity with distinction, its days are numbered, and your smartphone is to blame. Whether you want to control your music, your television or your PowerPoint presentation, there's probably a solution using your phone. Try as it might, the universal remote simply can't navigate the digital world the way the smartphone can — it's a lot easier to put the remote's abilities in the smartphone than vice versa."

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  1. Yeah.. by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But a smart phone has limited "hard" buttons. .. and as nice as touch screens are.. it's hard to operate them lying in bed through one half-open eye.

    Personally I`m waiting for voice recognition to become practical. I think that's more the future of how we control our devices.

    1. Re:Yeah.. by langelgjm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I love articles that proclaim the impending death of $TECHNOLOGY just because you can now use some other device as a half-assed supplement.

      Yeah, I really want to be lying on the couch underneath a blanket, and fiddling with/rolling over onto my touchscreen smartphone. Also, show me a smartphone that has the battery life of a good old remote control that can last for months or more.

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    2. Re:Yeah.. by narcberry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed. Universal remotes also crash less, require less charging, and are more likely to be found near a tv instead of in the pocket of the owner or charging in a different room.

      This article is retarded (as in handicapped, not special).

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    3. Re:Yeah.. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We have a voice recognition system where I work. In the intended environment it works fine but when we took it to a trade show to do demonstrations we found that it copes badly with background noise.

      So I wouldn't want to use one to trigger the mute function.

    4. Re:Yeah.. by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agree. Most people are barely capable of understanding the functions of their remote and lose it at most dumb-phones. Now they really want to teach them the intricate workings of an abstract user interface for a smart-phone remote emulation? Don't think that will work..

    5. Re:Yeah.. by home-electro.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Definitely most retarded non-story in the last couple of weeks.

      Smartphone as a remote is a niche application for mega-geeks who will become bored with it very shortly.

    6. Re:Yeah.. by DavidD_CA · · Score: 5, Funny

      Naysayers!

      I've completedly ditched my dedicated DVD player, 42" flat panel, and the rest of my home theatre system, because I can now watch movies on my SmartPhone.

      I have also thrown away my desktop computer, because my phone can access the web and everything I want is on the web. Likewise, I've given away my PS3 and X-Box 360 because my smartphone has games on it.

      Next week I'm having a garage sale, and will be selling most of my tools, too. My smartphone makes a very effective hammer, measure, and leveling device... and I'm certain that my carrier will soon be selling accessories to replace my screwdriver, chain saw, and plow.

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    7. Re:Yeah.. by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I love articles that proclaim the impending death of $TECHNOLOGY just because you can now use some other device as a half-assed supplement.

      Yeah, I really want to be lying on the couch underneath a blanket, and fiddling with/rolling over onto my touchscreen smartphone. Also, show me a smartphone that has the battery life of a good old remote control that can last for months or more.

      Not only that, but my universal remote has real buttons that I can navigate in the dark easily; doesn't walk out the room when I leave; and can be use by somebody else while I am on a call.

      You are right - just because some new tech can sorta do what existing tech can does mean it will replace it. A IR smartpone could also replace you car key as a remote - I don't see that happening very soon either.

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    8. Re:Yeah.. by Kreigaffe · · Score: 4, Funny

      voice rec? no thanks.

      i don't want to have to pause a conversation to say "scroll down" or "change to channel X" when I can just hit a button or two while I still talk to someone and do the same thing.

      Pushing buttons is easier than talking. And a lot easier late at night or early in the morning. And your TV won't ever mistake a casual conversation with someone for a command to record cinemax late at night that leads to questions about why exactly that program was DVRed..

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    9. Re:Yeah.. by horatio · · Score: 4, Funny

      Personally I`m waiting for voice recognition to become practical. I think that's more the future of how we control our devices.

      You mean you haven't programmed your device to recognize commands such as

      • Turn off the TV, dear
      • Make me a damn sandwich
      • More ale, wench!

      Well, what are you waiting for?

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    10. Re:Yeah.. by not+flu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How does making the same buttons act differently based on context make them easier to use? I don't see any logic behind this.

    11. Re:Yeah.. by spideysense · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I really want to be lying on the couch underneath a blanket, and fiddling with/rolling over onto my touchscreen smartphone.

      That's why you need a Snuggie! Those old fashioned blankets make it impossible to do simple things like change the channel or answer a phone.

    12. Re:Yeah.. by nine-times · · Score: 4, Informative

      are more likely to be found near a tv instead of in the pocket of the owner

      That seems to me to be a very important issue that might not occur to people quickly. What if someone else is in my house and wants to watch TV? Do I have to leave my cell phone with them? Or do they have to reprogram their phones?

      It's very convenient to have a simple, cheap, dedicated device to serve a single purpose. It can just sit there, ready to fulfill its duty.

    13. Re:Yeah.. by Fallingcow · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Are you too stupid to use a blanket? Were you born in the darkest jungle and have therefore never heard of a robe? If you said yes to both of those questions, boy do I have a product for you! CALL NOW!"

    14. Re:Yeah.. by Metabolife · · Score: 5, Informative

      With effective use of the vibrate function, it can replace your spouse as well.

    15. Re:Yeah.. by PitaBred · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And I have a Harmony 550 that cost $50 that ANYONE can use. It's not just me! And if I leave the house with my phone? Someone else can use the TV and all of my entertainment system pieces, including my MythTV machine.

    16. Re:Yeah.. by fractoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also, show me a smartphone that has the battery life of a good old remote control that can last for months or more.

      Most importantly, show me a smartphone that'll let me change channels in the 45 minutes after my mother's called my mobile and asked to talk to my wife.

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    17. Re:Yeah.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      doesn't walk out the room when I leave;

      I know they're called mobile phones but this is ridiculous.

  2. Tim, my man... by oldhack · · Score: 4, Funny

    I feel you, man. It sucks to post these non-stories, but it's slim picking and what you gonna do?

    That's it, right?

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  3. Like my grandma is going to buy a smart phone... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are a lot of people that won't buy a smart phone to operate all their devices.

  4. And nothing of value was lost. by Xtense · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know how it works in the US, but in Europe (or at least where I live) there are 348576384756876 different, conflicting coding standards for infrared messages, so the only real place for your Universal Remote is in the trash can.

    Not that I condone using phones for remote control...

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  5. Fixed that for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    While the screwdriver has served humanity with distinction, its days are numbered, and your hammer is to blame. Whether you want to control your nails, there's probably a solution using your hammer. Try as it might, the screwdriver simply can't hammer the nails the way the hammer can -- it's a lot easier to put the screwdriver's abilities in the hammer than vice versa.

  6. Not really. by Zouden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I want to change the channel on my TV I'm not going to muck around with the 'remote' app on my smartphone. I'm going to pick up an actual remote and press the button.

    Smartphones are great for a lot of things, but proper remote controls have a set of fixed, tactile buttons that respond instantly. Versatility isn't worth much if it's a pain to use.

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  7. Modding the article by Looce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If there was a way to mod articles, I'd mod this -1 Troll and -1 Flamebait.

    The universal remote has its uses, the smartphone has its own, and, last I checked:


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    • people still play DVDs for entertainment, and the universal remote still works on set-top DVD players;
         
    • people still watch TV, and the universal remote still works on televisions;
         
    • laptops accepting remote controls sometimes accept the universal remote as well;
         
    • etc.

    Just because it has less use for presentations doesn't mean that it's dying. If anything, other uses may be found for it, including presentations.

    Also, why replace a $20 item (or even less) with a $200 item (or even more) if all you're going to do is watch TV and DVDs with it? If the universal remote is truly dying, then the big phone companies have won the war of overconsumption: sell a product that will be obsolete in two years, make it have tons of uses, and have the buyer depend more and more on it such that s/he deems it absolutely necessary and buys it again and again as newer versions come out with even more feature creep, while making everyone pay the full price for all the features despite many of the buyers not using even an eighth of them.

    I'd rather keep that remote, thanks. Mine has lasted around... 10 years now?

  8. Re:Like my grandma is going to buy a smart phone.. by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, my wife would love it if every time I left the house she was stuck watching Top Gear repeats all day because my phone was the only thing that controlled the TV.

    Harmony FTW.

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  9. Harmony remotes by tulmad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The person who wrote this article has clearly never used a Logitech Harmony remote. Best remote I've ever owned.

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  10. FFS NO NO NO!!!! by Pvt_Ryan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Phones are for PHONING!!!!! not texting, not taking pictures, nor playing mp3s, nor controlling radio controlled cars or anything else..

    I hate having to learn to use my new nokias as it is, without piling in more crap.

    Whatever happened to "Do one job and do it well".. Seems nowadays it's lets cram as much crap into something that half works.

  11. What happens when by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm using my phone/out of the house and someone else (sat the 13 year old kid) wants to watch a DVD?

    Or does everyone need a smart phone as opposed to one $20 remote on the coffee table?

  12. One remote to rule them all? by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With projects like the JP1 forum turning universal remotes into the Swiss army knife of the 21st century I hardly think the will meet their technological demise any time soon. I would rather bet my $0.02 that the killer device control app for smartphones will be remote interaction at an arbitrary distance, much like the remote DVR control applications now entering the market.

  13. While we're on the subject of remotes by similar_name · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why can't I click a button on the TV to make my remote beep when I can't find it. Maybe I should patent that.

  14. Re:Television will last forever. by cdrguru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you had the faintest idea of the network requirements to do that, you would understand why broadcast TV (and radio) are going to be around for a long, long time.

    Today, people can pretend that broadcast radio might die because they can stream content to their phone. And as long as they can do this, they think "this must be what the future looks like". It doesn't, it won't and as soon as 10-20 people in their physical area try to do the same thing they will discover the truth.

    The bandwidth requirements of feeding individuals their own streams at 1080i (or even 720i) would require pretty much dedicated fiber home-to-provider. No, that doesn't exist. You can get fiber to a local node that is dedicated but then you are competing with your neighbors for bandwidth on a shared resource. And that shared resource does not have anywhere near the aggregate capacity to handle the sum of the fiber coming in to it.

    When will it? Probably never. Dreaming that broadcast will end when it does is fine, but keep in mind someone has to justify the costs. A local node may serve 1000 homes. Getting fiber that will support 20MB/sec is no problem but getting a channel from the local node that will support 20Gb/sec is another proposition entirely. And at the head end where 100 of those 20Gb/sec fibers come together to compete with the incoming bandwidth now ups that requirement to 2Tb/sec.

    2Tb/sec? And that is merely a small town with 100,000 homes.

    Broadcast TV is going to be around for a long, long time. As will broadcast radio. The bandwidth requirements of a broadcast are so incredibly modest compared with individual streams that it is a no-brainer for anyone.

    Will the bandwidth exist someday? Maybe. Will it be used to replace broadcasting? Doubtful. There will be some other use for it which will once again mean broadcast content is the only practical way to do it.

  15. Voice Recognition by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think voice recognition is more the future of how we control our devices.

    Please leave me out of your future. Few things make me more angry than calling a support number and getting a menu where I'm required to speak to the computer.

    If I have to deal with a computer, at least give me the choices and let me press a damn button. Don't make me guess the right keyword, especially not in earshot of my officemates.

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