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Texas Vote May Challenge Teaching of Evolution

tboulay writes "The Texas Board of Education will vote this week on a new science curriculum designed to challenge the guiding principle of evolution, a step that could influence what is taught in biology classes across the nation. The proposed curriculum change would prompt teachers to raise doubts that all life on Earth is descended from common ancestry. Texas is such a large textbook market that many publishers write to the state's standards, then market those books nationwide. 'This is the most specific assault I've seen against evolution and modern science,' said Steven Newton, a project director at the National Center for Science Education, which promotes teaching of evolution." Both sides are saying the issue it too close to call. Three Republicans on the school board who favor the teaching of evolution have come under enormous pressure to reform their ways.

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  1. As someone from Alabama, let me say thanks by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm just grateful this wasn't us for ONCE. Of course, now our redneck legislators will feel the need to one-up the Texans with some Bill declaring Jesus the official state mascot or something.

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    1. Re:As someone from Alabama, let me say thanks by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      This just in: Alabama feels threatened, drafts legislation to declare the square root of two as "the baby jesus." Overwhelming approval from all constituencies.

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    2. Re:As someone from Alabama, let me say thanks by Loko+Draucarn · · Score: 4, Funny

      They're just confirming what we already knew.

      The Baby Jesus is irrational.

    3. Re:As someone from Alabama, let me say thanks by DisKurzion · · Score: 5, Funny

      No silly. Everyone knows that "The Baby Jesus" is sqrt(-1)!

  2. Re:Cue the following: by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll take combo #1, #2 and #3, hold the mayo, super sized please. Oh and hold the pickles, they give me gas.

  3. Common ancestry: Hera by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

    The proposed curriculum change would prompt teachers to raise doubts that all life on Earth is descended from common ancestry.

    Duh, her name was Hera Agathon.

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  4. Re:Cue the following: by bytethese · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gas due to the evolved symbiotic bacteria that live in your intestines or did the magically appear there? :)

  5. perhaps they shouldn't vote by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    perhaps it would be better to release the members of the board into a remote ecosystem with limited resources, and allow them to compete, whereby the most well-adapted board member is selectively chosen not to starve, and he or she at that point decides the issue of whether or not to teach evolution

    if on the other hand, angels are heard singing, a bright light shines from the sky, and a booming voice chooses one particular board member while the rest perish in a scream and a flash, destined for eternity to hell, maybe that will decide the issue instead

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  6. Re:Cue the following: by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Funny
    FUD. Flamebait. You rage, you lose:

    Texas is such a huge textbook market that many publishers write to the state's standards, then market those books nationwide.

    No. That would never fly nationwide. It would lead to an ugly mess of boycotts and TPB for the major publishers, who are all located in Northeast America.

    Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy...believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago...The textbooks will "have to say that there's a problem with evolution -- because there is," said Dr. McLeroy, a dentist.

    Awhawha? A dentist? And what the hell does that joker think about all of those Biology classes he took in college? Oh, wait. According to another site, Texas Governor Rick Perry, who supports teaching Intelligent Design in high school science classes, recently hand-picked that assclown from Bryan University, a Christian college in Tennessee.

  7. Exhibit 'A' for the theory of evolution by slashdotlurker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Frankly some of these people are an embarrassment to the country. Maybe they can band together parts of the old Confederacy, make Chuck Norris its new Jefferson Davis, and get the hell out of the US. As it stands, most of these states survive on federal aid handouts (they take more in federal assistance than give in in taxes). The reason is simple - educated people and the high paying jobs that follow them don't want any part of their 19th century thump-the-good-book-to-get-all-answers "paradise".

    With Chuck Norris, they can take their rightful place along with witch doctors of Africa, voodoo practitioners of the Caribbean, fundamentalists in rural Afghanistan and Pakistan, etc. and form a living human history museum of sorts, where we can bring our kids off and on to show how we used to live in the old times.

    Evolution states among other things that not all members of the same species evolve/progress at the same rate. The odd century gap between these jokers and the rest of humanity is a startling confirmation of that.

  8. silly republicans ... science is the devil! by zig43 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Three Republicans on the school board who favor the teaching of evolution have come under enormous pressure to reform their ways."

    Lest they be sentenced to eternal damnation and cast into hell. :)

    1. Re:silly republicans ... science is the devil! by Tenek · · Score: 3, Funny

      They're already in Texas...

  9. Re:What do you expect by joggle · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's a certain poetic justice when driving to Texas from Colorado. As you cross the border you see a small sign saying, "Welcome to Texas! Proud home of George W Bush." A few miles later, one of the first towns you drive through is named Dumas and smells like manure.

  10. Re:Whatever by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to the last episode of Battlestar Galactica, a Human/Cylon child 150,000 years ago became the "Eve" of all humanity. Yet the current theory of evolution doesn't take this into account. :P

  11. Re:Whatever by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 5, Funny

    as a good biology grad, I'm always interested in hearing about holes

    I think I speak for all males when I say, you're not the only one!

  12. Re:What do you expect by genner · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean, this is the same state that gave us the amazingly anti-science George W. "I believe God wants me to run for president" Bush.

    I agree'd with his statement. Clearly the Bush Presidency was divine punishment for our sinful ways.

  13. Re:Cue the following: by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny

    OK, so we'll to agree that evolution is only approximately right, but the approximation error w.r.t. 100% right is immeasurably small unless the species in question are traveling at a significant fraction of the speed of light relative to the paleontologist.

  14. Re:Cue the following: by shrubya · · Score: 5, Funny

    * only applicable for sufficiently small values [of] truth(**)

    (**) where "sufficiently small" means "90+% of all human activities that benefit from knowledge of physics".

    Yeah sure, you can complain that GPS satellites wouldn't work without accounting for relativistic effects. But when I throw my Garmin at your head, it will travel in a parabolic path (minus air resistance) with sub-millimeter accuracy. Then I will write "annoying pedant" on your face in magic marker while you're knocked out.

  15. Re:Compromise by PhxBlue · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about they teach Evolution and just leave out the part about how the amino acids and the first cellular life arrived.

    While we're at it, let's teach math but just leave out the part about long division.

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  16. Re:More than two sides by dln385 · · Score: 2, Funny

    While you are correct that making a vague claim without backing it up is despicable at best, your argument is an appeal to ignorance and is therefore not valid either. Lets make a deal. Since we are both ill-equipped to dispute each other's claims, we should both research them so we don't stay ignorant. I believe that is the best we can hope for.

  17. Re:Whatever by CensorshipDonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mod parent down! I can't believe you would post a naked spoiler. I had not yet finished catching up in BSG, what a fucking asshole move.

  18. Re:Cue the following: by BlackCreek · · Score: 4, Funny

    These backwards magical-thinking buffoons have no evidence, no tests, nothing to point to a different theory; they have a book. A book they believe trumps the evidence of our own eyes and our most advanced scientific methods.

    Evolutionary theory has no tests either. You have a book too: Origin of Species. You have no evidence of your own eyes because your life span is less than 100 years and the lifespan of human existence is easily less than 10,000 years. Your only "evidence" says that because Animal A has feathers and Animal B has feathers and Animal A lived a long time ago then Animal A must be related to B. How do you explain that leap of logic? That's what I call magical thinking. That is no evidence at all.

    YES! YES! I agree!!!

    Evolution is just theory and science is just a bunch of theories!

    I also want public funds to be spent teaching the gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

    We also have a book!

    I say all three theories (evolution, ID, F.S.M.ism) should be presented with equal time and children should be left to decide on their own!!

  19. Re:What do you expect by geobeck · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you're one of the major benefactors of an extraction based economy, you want your average neighbor to be as idiotic as possible.

    Like the neighbor to the #1 supplier of oil to the US?

    Hey, you said it; I didn't...

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  20. Re:This will influence by adamchou · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait, so let me get this straight. You want cars that produce more harmful emissions AND you want ID to be taught in the class room? You must be either a Texan or a wannabe Texan.

  21. Re:What do you expect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ooooooh you're so precious and cute, I could just eat you up!

  22. Re:Compromise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The apostrophe's. They've evolved.

  23. Re:Cue the following: by nizo · · Score: 2, Funny

    That depends; is California manufacturing cars without wheels and with the steering wheel conveniently located in the trunk?

  24. Re:Cue the following: by Sancho · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't believe in gravity. I believe in Intelligent Falling.

  25. Re: People don't really believe in Noah's Flood by bckrispi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fantastic! Now how do you rationalize the magical fruit and the talking snake??

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