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Mythbusters Accidentally Bust Windows In Nearby Town

Thelasko writes "In an effort to knock Buster's socks off, the Mythbusters accidentally created an explosion so large it shattered windows in a small town over a mile from the blast site. The Mythbusters had the broken windows replaced the very same day. The Esparto, California fire chief says that several firefighters were on hand for the blast, but he didn't notify residents because, 'Mythbusters is supposed to be a really popular show. Everybody would have been out there. We would have had to cancel it because it would have been too dangerous.'"

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  1. And finally... by Slashidiot · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Jamie got big boom.

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    1. Re:And finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      boom goes the dynamite?

    2. Re:And finally... by mhall119 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Boom! di ada...

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    3. Re:And finally... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      "I think it is a myth that the windows were impacted by the explosion. They should prove it on the show. You think I'm going to accept this "fact" so easily?"

      Think man!!

      The real question is...could they do it again, but with Kari B. topless???

      We need to see that in slow motion, high speed photography.

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  2. wow by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Myth Busters truly are gods among geeks.

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    1. Re:wow by oahazmatt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The keyword in the summary was "accidentally". This was not an intended result and was not anticipated. Especially not a mile away.

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    2. Re:wow by Scootin159 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Public safety was taken into consideration - and in this case it was determined 'safer' to NOT tell the public, as the expected crowed that would produce would make matters WORSE.

    3. Re:wow by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Depends on what you consider 'near'.

      If normal precautions and notices take place, then all laws have been followed.

      Accidents do happen, you need to calm down.

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    4. Re:wow by Slashidiot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, they accidentally the whole town...

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    5. Re:wow by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      So now if some TV show is filming a dangerous experiment near my house, I shouldn't be notified that my windows may explode unexpectedly? This public official needs to be fired. I'm all for the TV show, but public safety comes first... or at least it used to back in the day... now get off my grass!

      They didn't expect it either. They did not think there was a safety issue, thus they did not warn about the safety issue they did not think existed. If they had thought there was a safety issue warranting warnings, they would have issued safety issue warnings. They had firemen on hand for the safety issues they did expect. They did not have firemen on hand for the issues they did not expect.

      What I'm saying is that it was unexpected.

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    6. Re:wow by MagicM · · Score: 5, Funny

      I shouldn't be notified that my windows may explode unexpectedly?

      You want to be notified of everything that may happen unexpectedly? Seriously? Because then we're going to be here a while...

    7. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      having been a pyrotechnician for 15 years, I can say that many of the "broken" window claims probably were for windows cracked long ago. But hey, there's a boom, so I can get free window replacement!

    8. Re:wow by MagicM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I shouldn't be notified that my windows may explode unexpectedly?

      People can't notify you of unexpected things. That's why they're called unexpected.

      (Yes, I replied twice and contradicted myself. Big whoop.)

    9. Re:wow by Andor666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because nobody expects the Spanish In...

      Oh no...

    10. Re:wow by furby076 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is it everytime someone makes a mistake there is some moron who has a knee jerk reaction of "fire the person". Give me a break. The fire chief made a call. They didn't notify the town because they didn't want a crowd at the film site - which would be dangerous in and of itself. So if they cancelled the show they transported explosive chemicals to the site and would have to transfer it off the site, then transfer it to another site...all that transport = danger.

      not to forget - they didn't realize the explosion was going to be so big as to break a hand-ful of windows a MILE away.
      Unfortunate yes, unexpected yes, handled properly yes, fire someone no.

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    11. Re:wow by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they had thought there was a safety issue warranting warnings...

      they would have done the experiment somewhere else.

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    12. Re:wow by MagicM · · Score: 5, Funny

      People can't notify you of unexpected things.

      Proof that you're wrong: Your mom and I had a great time last night.

      Proof that I'm right: that's not unexpected.

    13. Re:Wow by element-o.p. · · Score: 5, Funny

      What were they thinking?

      "This is gonna be awesome!!!"

      Just a hunch...

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    14. Re:wow by flosofl · · Score: 5, Funny

      then again if they were real scientists they would have done an estimate before hand that accounted for such an event.

      If they were real scientists it would make a very boring show. I know I don't want to watch a show of a bunch of grad students in dimly lit offices using MatLab and Excel, while the researcher eats lobster dinners trying to score just one more grant.

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    15. Re:wow by mea37 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Look, I like Mythbusters, but I've always said that I think they draw some sloppy conclusions and shoot from the hip sometimes when they really shouldn't.

      The thing everyone's focusing on is whether they did anticipate this result. The question nobody's asking is whether they should have anticipated it.

      Let's assume they had no basis to know going in how big the explosion would be. (As I've said elsewhere, I don't believe that; but others seem to think so... ok...) Then it's their job, before conducting the experiment, to find out. The type of explosive they used is pretty well known. If they didn't know how to estimate the size of the explosion, they should've been able to find someone that could. If they couldn't... then conducting the test was reckless.

      Throwing as much explosive as you can in a pile and setting it off with at best a guess as to what the yield will be is not responsible, even if you do have the local fire brigade on hand.

      At least they had the sense to repair the damage they did after the fact. (And to those who suspect they fell victim to fraud in the process: if so, it's their own fault.) Luckily nobody was standing near a window that shattered.

      So, no harm no foul? Maybe. I hope they learn from this experience, though, as it sounds like they didn't learn much from previous demolitions tests on their show.

    16. Re:wow by spruce · · Score: 5, Funny

      You didn't a verb

    17. Re:wow by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

      The windows didn't "explode", they "shattered". I actually RTFA. And when you read the article, it appears that even the headline overstates it. In the article it twice refers to the broken windows. Once it says "...breaking her front window". The other time it says "Mythbusters told KCRA 3 they replaced a handful of broken windows."
      According to the article lots of people were curious and wanted to know what was going on, but the only person who the article referred to who thought something was done wrong was someone who "was working at a local school". We don't know who this person was because the article gives their name, but doesn't say what they were doing at the school. Since their job title is not mentioned, it seems likely that they don't speak for the school. This means that those who do speak for the school apparently don't think there was anything wrong with what was done.

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  3. Only the Mythbusters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...could get the go-ahead on tripping 500 lbs of ammonium nitrate in order to "knock the socks off" of a mannequin.

  4. Appropriately named Fire Chief... by Wulfstan · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Chief Barry Burns, of Esparto Fire Department" :-)

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  5. Bleeped by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And their big 'bleep' was located 'bleep' but don't 'bleep' anywhere near 'bleep' CUE BIG FIREBALL BOOM!

    Sorry about that, it is just a pet peeve of mine that Mythbusters is seemingly censoring mundane details about what they are doing. What is the point about censoring the location where you are firing off a minigun? It's obviously restricted, and it isn't as if people are going to wander onto some military base and pick up a minigun.

    If the people who watch the show were so stupid as to try and use some of the chemicals that are used in the show (and harm themselves or someone else) I'd wager that they are probably too stupid to even know where to order them.

    You never saw Mr. Wizard bleeping out the chemical names on his demonstrations.

    I swear that if the lawyers had their way, they would bleep 'gasoline'.

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    1. Re:Bleeped by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You never saw Mr. Wizard bleeping out the chemical names on his demonstrations.

      Note the past tense. Is Mr. Wizard even allowed to be shown now? Have the networks been 'encouraged' to drop programming like that?

      Now please excuse me while I test whether an explosion can literally knock my tinfoil hat off.

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    2. Re:Bleeped by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thermite is a perfect example. It's easy to make, the ingredients are dirt cheap and unregulated, and it takes no special knowledge to put it together.

      Why bleep out the words "Aluminum" and "Iron Oxide"? If someone wants to learn how to make thermite, they can do that without any special help.

      The nastiest stuff they use on mythbusters is all commercial. The stuff they make themselves is mostly kitchen sink stuff that anyone could make.

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    3. Re:Bleeped by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I swear that if the lawyers had their way, they would bleep 'bleep'.

      I don't get it.

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    4. Re:Bleeped by oahazmatt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why bleep out the words "Aluminum" and "Iron Oxide"?

      Defense Lawyer: And where did you learn to make Thermite?
      Defendent: From watching Mythbusters.
      Discovery Channel: Uh-oh.

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    5. Re:Bleeped by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What is the point about censoring the location where you are firing off a minigun?

      I always assumed that they censored that particular nugget because they film in the People's Republic of^W^W^W California, which isn't exactly a pro-firearms state. I know they had to get special permission when they were playing around with the .50 rifle during the bullets fired at water episode. I also seem to recall the neighbors of M5 whining when they were doing some other gun myths.

      I do agree though that some of the stuff they censor is just plain stupid. I would guess that the lawyers make them do it.

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  6. Re:it had to happen sooner or later..... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

    .... can't wait to see this one air.

    Ah, I see our viral marketing campaign is working... Jamie, go "accidentally" blow up a gas station or something, we'll issue a press rele^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hletter of apology next week.

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  7. downhill since Smash Lab by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ever since these other "lets blow stuff up on high speed film" shows came out, MythBusters has had to blow more and more stuff up, kind of getting anti-intellectual nowadays. Plus Kari needs a bigger rack.

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    1. Re:downhill since Smash Lab by berend+botje · · Score: 5, Informative

      Kari's rack is just fine as is, thank you very much.

      Though I much prefer that cool blond girl they had on the show.

  8. Re:That's odd... by RattFink · · Score: 4, Informative

    Experience? They are special effects guys, they have done all of maybe 2 or 3 really large explosions and all of them were oversaw by professionals because most of the stuff they deal with is not generally available. They aren't exactly blasting/munitions experts.

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  9. The verdict by sxltrex · · Score: 5, Funny

    BUSTED!!

  10. Selective Terrorism? by geekmux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "...They were trying to literally 'knock the socks off' a mannequin by igniting 500 pounds of ammonium nitrate."

    Uh, I like the show and all, but it's rather ironic that a couple of "celebrities" can get their hands on 500 pounds of this stuff and use it, when Average Joe can't manage to buy 50 pounds of "enriched" manure from Home Depot without tripping the "terrorist" flag at Homeland Security...

    1. Re:Selective Terrorism? by chaidawg · · Score: 5, Informative

      They actually hire licensed munitions and demolitions experts for the blowing stuff up - Usually former FBI

  11. Re:That's odd... by berend+botje · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Remember the one where they tried to muck out that cement truck? Man, that was unreal! One second there's a truck, and the next second it's completely gone. No Hollywood fireball, just Bang! and no-more-truck.

    Cool. That's what it is.

  12. Re:Need-to-know attitude? Uh, no thanks. by Zironic · · Score: 4, Informative

    You have the order wrong.

    The shows popularity would have made people come too close so it wouldn't be possible to perform the explosion. They judged it safer for everyone if people didn't know about it.

  13. Myth: Plausible by cookieinc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Myth: Plausible
    Windows: Busted

  14. That oughta do it. by sweetking · · Score: 5, Funny

    Think ya used enough dynamite there, Butch?

  15. Not anticipated?? Hardly. by geekmux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The keyword in the summary was "accidentally". This was not an intended result and was not anticipated. Especially not a mile away.

    They were igniting 500 pounds of ammonium nitrate. What, did EVERYONE (including Fire Marshall Bill) forget to bring their handy dandy bomb-squad approved $10 calculator with them that day?

  16. Re:That's odd... by macshome · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, I think that stuff like this can take anyone by surprise. Castle Bravo turned out to be 2.5 times bigger than expected, and those guys were Atomic Scientists!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo

  17. MythBusters isn't the safest show by Propaganda13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Remember, they built the bulletproof shelter for explosions then in a much later episode discovered that the material wasn't bulletproof.

    1. Re:MythBusters isn't the safest show by dhovis · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, they said the polycarbonate they used for a blast shelter was "basically bulletproof", which they later showed is an exaggeration.

      OTOH, for what they were using it for, their polycarbonate blast shield was perfectly safe. It wouldn't stop a bullet, but it would stop any number of much slower moving objects.

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    2. Re:MythBusters isn't the safest show by truespin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      and the steam cannon - they wanted to get it up to 200PSI, but time conspired against them and it only got to 65PSI. The cannonball travelled a mile, it might well have hit the San Francisco suburbs if they'd tripled the PSI..!

      and the chicken cannon firing at non-birdstrike approved windshields.

      We all make miscalculations!

  18. Myth... by JCSoRocks · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's the verdict on the myth that the Mythbusters can continue to do huge explosions without any collateral damage?

    Definitely busted.

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    1. Re:Myth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Mythbusters.

    2. Re:Myth... by chiller2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      A perfect way for the Large Hadron Collider guys to avoid the bad press and legal threats! Just call up the MythBusters and have them do it.

      "In this episode we'll see if our particle accelerator creates world eating black holes!"

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  19. Jamie wants big boom! by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 5, Funny

    At this time, Buster is still unavailable for comments.

  20. Re:Not anticipated?? Hardly. by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Informative

    What, did EVERYONE (including Fire Marshall Bill) forget to bring their handy dandy bomb-squad approved $10 calculator with them that day?

    I'm guessing they underestimated the burn rate of the explosives. This is probably due to the high variability in quality of ammonium nitrate. They may have done the calculations for agricultural grade ammonium nitrate, and used another.

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  21. Re:the explosion was alot bigger by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    They usually have a retired FBI agent who is a specialist in explosives handle the big booms for them. I wonder if they had him along this time too?

    Now we know why he's retired ;)

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  22. Re:NASA problem by ronaldb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, that's only a factor of.... err.. 500? Oops.

    Reminds me of a high school chemistry teacher showing us the difference between Na and K. His words:

    "Na is very reactive, so we drop only a small amount in water to show the reaction." - poof

    "K is a little less reactive, so we can drop a larger amount in water." - BAMMM! (and one erlenmeyer explodes in front of 35 students)

    Of course, today that would mean the teacher would be sued by the parents for endangering the lives of all those students. But in my day, this means that 30 years later I remember that K is less reactive than Na, but not by very much.

  23. Re:Not anticipated?? Hardly. by curmudgeous · · Score: 5, Funny

    They were igniting 500 pounds of ammonium nitrate

    [humor]
    I hereby declare this an act of domestic terrorism. The fact this wasn't in the middle of a public square just means they were bad at planning.
    [/humor]

  24. Re:That's odd... by MaWeiTao · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That one was unreal; it really conveyed the power of those explosives more effectively than any other explosion I've seen on the show. It's definitely my favorite.

  25. Re:NASA problem by dhovis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Then your teacher taught you wrong. K is significantly more reactive than Na. It also reacts hotter and usually ignites the hydrogen gas produced by the reaction.

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  26. Re:That's odd... by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait until MythBusters start busting nuclear weapon myths! Oohh boy! :D

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  27. Re:NASA problem by transporter_ii · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In high school, I had a physics teacher who, way back when he first started teaching, ordered x picograms of radioactive material for his class. The school secretary thought he misspelled the order and changed it to grams.

    He said later on the principal called him over the intercom and sounded really upset. He went to the office, only to find the principal steaming mad over a $50,000.00-plus invoice. He looked at the invoice and, realizing what it was, went and got his giger counter...only to find it going crazy even out in the hall from the principal's office.

    As it turned out, they had shipped a large order of radioactive material in a cardboard box!

    They had to evacuate the office and call someone to come and get it.

    Possibly unrelated, because that had happened many years prior, but he died of cancer.

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  28. The sodium dunk game by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Funny

    My chem teacher
    a: knew that potassium is *more* reactive than sodium, so used less of it
    and
    b: put the beaker full of water on the desk that the two cheerleaders in class sat at so when it went phooey they were the ones that ended up soaking wet.

    He was a truly superior human being -- and he taught there his entire career, for 15 years after I graduated.

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  29. The Science Teacher Who Cleaned The Chem Closet... by Chagatai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A new science teacher came to my high school during the 1980s. During the first week of his job, he decided to help clean out the chemical closet. As he was going through things, he came across a large jar of picric acid, which is an ingredient to some explosives. As he took a more detailed look, he noticed that the acid had crystallized.

    He called up the local police department to talk to someone who does hazmat / dangerous chemicals work. The moment he said, "crystallized picric acid," the man on the other end of the phone shouted, "Evacuate the building now!"

    The full bomb squad arrived and took the beaker carefully up the hill to the 50-yard line of the football stadium and detonated the beaker. The shockwave went clear across the town.

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  30. I disagree by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Somewhat strongly in fact. I think experiment is the very essence of science. What you're chasing there is something different:

    Misconceived ideas can be turned into accepted fact by flawed, or worse, deliberately contrived experimentation methodologies.

    Well, of course.

    But let's say some charlatan makes a bogus experiment and foists it on the scientific community. How do you refute their claim?

    You got it - experimentally.

    Remember a good experiment has a reproducible result. See cold fusion for examples in that arena. Cold fusion might be possible. But until you can reproduce it - by independent groups performing your experiment - it won't ever be science. Nature may have permitted it all along, but until you can experimentally verify it, it can never be science.

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  31. Re:NASA problem by Nutria · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wouldn't have been francium - that stuff's got such a short half life

    Because it surrenders to the germanium?

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  32. and certainly not Americium by fantomas · · Score: 4, Funny

    >>Wouldn't have been francium - that stuff's got such a short half life

    >Because it surrenders to the germanium?

    ...And it couldn't have been Americium because that only turns up at the end for a short time when there are no other excuses left not to react ;-)