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Attempting To Reframe "KDE Vs. GNOME"
jammag writes "Setting aside the now tired debate about whether KDE or GNOME is the 'better' Linux desktop, Bruce Byfield compares their disparate development approaches and asks, not which desktop is subjectively better, but which developmental approach is likely to be most successful in the next few years. 'In the short term, GNOME's gradualism seems sensible. But, in the long-term, it could very well mean continuing to be dragged down by support for legacy sub-systems. It means being reduced to an imitator rather than innovator.' In contrast, 'you could say that KDE has done what's necessary and ripped the bandage off the scab. In the short term, the result has been a lot of screaming, but, in the long term, it has done what was necessary to thrive.'"
XFCE if you just need GTK libraries and a relatively fast and lightweight desktop.
GNUStep if you want to port back and forth between Mac/linux/*bsd.
Frankly, GNUStep would seem like the most sane option for most commercial vendors who want to support both Mac and Linux.
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my bad for pre-empting the inevitable topic that would arise later in the discussion of this article. essentially I knew it would devolve into 'x is better than y' (as has happened later on in this discussion already) and funnily enough all the later posts are informative or insightful while essentially saying the same thing.
Slashdot posters and viewpoints are easy to predict most of the time, the groupthink is strong here, but lesson learned do not post something to resolve an argument before someone has posted to start it, lol
On the other side if the latest Windows would be totally incompatible with your 2.5 year old machine people would complain a lot.
Macusers tend to accept that to some extent, or well, atleast in general, not the actual affected users.
(So your GPU suck and you don't have support for Core Image? You don't have an 833+ MHz G4 and can't install Leopard? You can't run EAs games thanks to lame GPU? No Snow Leopard on PPC machines (so what if your superexpensive mac pro can't run it?))
The pox on both your houses KDE/GNOME. I run Blackbox, because it doesn't get in the way. I got used to it on my old Dell 450 mhz PIII with 128 megs of RAM. KDE/GNOME were simply out of the question. I could see the desktop icons being slowly painfully drawn at startup.
My current computer has more video RAM than the old one had main RAM. But that's not an excuse to waste resources. Blackbox flies on a modern machine, especially with *PROPERLY OPTIMIZED* Gentoo (I said optimizied, not riced up). I run mostly Firefox/Gnumeric/AbiWord/Mplayer/GIMP on the GUI, and I generally flip back to a real textmode console to run mutt (email) and slrn/slrnpull (usenet news).
At work I'm stuck with Windows. After a while I get used to it, but it seems that with every new version (95/98/2000/XP) it all changes, and "everything you know is wrong". What's wrong with sticking with something that works?
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
I just find the interface unnecessarily cluttered, and it makes me cranky.
What do you think of this interface?
http://simoncion.wargameweaver.com/pix/kde4_svn_desktop.jpeg (Warning. Huge JPEG alert! [Screenshot taken from a dual 1600x1200px screen setup.])
The black rectangle below the urxvt icon is the system tray. The icons in it recently stopped display correctly. I have yet to diagnose the problem or file a bug. (/me loves living on the bleeding edge!) Also, that "Folders" windows that the cursor is on vanishes when Dolphin doesn't have focus. It can also be docked in the Dolphin window.
Kow ko kyou keople kope kwith kall ke K:s? Ki kan't karry kon kusing kit kor kore khan kive kinutes kefore ketting khe kurge ko kuffokate ka citten.
You're a hell of a guy. Next you'll be letting her go outside without a burqa.
hey!!
At least they are releasing drivers, versus some companies like Kodak and the ESP printers.
They have macrud OSX support and have developed basic drivers for Linux but refuse to release them
http://johnmanard.pluggedin.kodak.com/default.asp?item=2191668 - Driver and shows and example of output.
http://susantousi.pluggedin.kodak.com/default.asp?item=473852
Free means - no cost, period.
I can DL nvidia, ATI, VMWare etc all for free and its all closed source. Fine with me.
I can't DL any of the stuff for Kodak as they won't release an API, interface specs, or the driver they have developed.
Linux desktop users do NOT care open or closed source, they want free software to DL and install. They want free drivers to DL and install and use the device(s) they purchased at Newegg or other place with out a hassle.
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A Mercedes is more expensive Volkswagen. And a Volkswagen is more expensive then a Kia. That's the way it is. And if you think the Mercedes is overpriced then buy the Kia.