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IE 8.1 Supports Firefox Plugins, Rendering Engine

KermodeBear writes in to note that according to Smashing Magazine, the newest version of Internet Explorer, codenamed "Eagle Eyes," supports Firefox plugins, the Gecko and Webkit rendering engines, and has scored a 71 / 100 on the Acid3 test. The article is pretty gee-whiz, and I don't entirely believe the claims that IE's JavaScript performance will trounce the others. (And note that the current Firefox, 3.0.8, scores 71 on Acid3, and Safari 3.1.2 hits 75.) No definitive date from Microsoft, but "sources" say that an IE 8.1 beta will be released in the summer.

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  1. April fools... by MK_CSGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nothing to see here, move along...

  2. Breaking News! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Breaking News: April Fools joke leaked on March 31st

    1. Re:Breaking News! by master5o1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought baghdad was on American time since the fall of Saddam?

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    2. Re:Breaking News! by ThrowAwaySociety · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'd accept the "it's-April-1-here" argument, except that:

      1. The article is dated "By Jacob Gube, March 31st, 2009"
      2. The URL contains the string ".../2009/03/31/..."

    3. Re:Breaking News! by PhxBlue · · Score: 4, Funny

      In that case, would you go for the "Spanish Inquisition" argument? No one expects that.

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  3. Come on... by spacefight · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...it isn't April 1st yet :)

  4. Wow, if true. by CannonballHead · · Score: 3, Funny

    If it actually does do all that (support FF plugins, Gecko and Webkit [and I assume Trident], score competitively on Acid3 [I would assume that is at least some indication of being more standards compliant], good JS performance), that would be a pretty big Wow.

  5. "Eagle Eyes" by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dubbed "Eagle Eyes" because it has FireFOX in its sights.

    Evil bastards :(

  6. Awesome by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it is all true. IE is finally done playing catchup and the general populace still using IE won't be behind. But so far IE doesn't really offer anything that FF doesn't. Chrome for example is missing a lot of things but it has stuff no one else does. All in all this can only cause good things to happen on the internet.

  7. Wait...what? by thesolo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I smell bullshit.

    How on earth would IE 8, a browser with a UI not written in XUL, be able to "flawlessly" use a Firefox plugin like Tab Mix Plus? Unless IE 8.1 embeds all of Gecko, plus XUL, XPCom, the XPI to install the plugins, you couldn't install or run a plugin on it. And why on earth would Microsoft suddenly give in and embed other rendering engines? That's not something the dominant browser does, that's something that a low-share browser does to help with compatibility, ala Netscape 7.

    I don't buy it. Furthermore, the article is light on details, has some dubious screenshots, and was published just before April Fools' Day.

    P.S. If you want to use Firebug in non-Firefox browsers, then use the Lite version. It works great in IE.

  8. April Fool a day early by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft's Internet Explorer Development Team has teamed up with the Google Chrome Development Team to create JSE in a seemingly grand plan combat Mozilla Firefox's growing market share. The result: a JavaScript engine that outperforms all modern browsers currently available on the market.

    Yes of course Microsoft will team up with Google to "combat Mozilla Firefox's growing market share". When chairs fly.

  9. From the comments ... by krou · · Score: 5, Informative
    RTFC, perhaps? From Smashing Magazine's editorial team, 16th comment:

    actually, it is April 1st in Kiribati already (see Link [is.gd]) and since we have readers all across the globe, it sounds quite OK for us to publish the post now. We don't have that many readers from Kiribati, but it would be unfair to publish it when it's April 2nd there ;)

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  10. IE 8.1 really rocks by INeededALogin · · Score: 5, Funny

    They also decided to release an OSX version again and while I was taking a shower, it fed and took my dog for a walk.

  11. Okay by slapout · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, that's what the Conficker virus does...

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  12. Server Side Compiler by CannonballHead · · Score: 4, Informative
    In case anyone is in doubt about April Fools or not...

    Server-side code decompiler

    If youâ(TM)ve ever wished to know how sites and web applications work, Eagle Eyes (the name is fitting in this context) will let you view the server-side source code of a web page. We didnâ(TM)t explore this feature much, but from basic tests, the server-side code decompiler was able to tell us how the Mixx promotional algorithm worked.

    And they show this picture ... hehe.

  13. Usability still matters by hwyhobo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Usability still matters, not just raw speed or ability to supports other vendor's plugins. I have and occasionally use IE8, and while it is a huge improvement on the previous versions of IE, usability-wise it still cannot hold a candle in my book to Firefox. It insists on its own way of arranging menus and bookmarks, so that if I want to have what I have in Firefox, I need 3-4 rows of text and icons at the top instead of 2 in Firefox. That kind of inflexibility irritates me. I don't like wasting screen space. I also don't like using software that irritates me. It's strange because Microsoft was one of the pioneers of the "Customize" concept of the application's interface, where you could remove and rearrange items as you saw fit.

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  14. Re:Don't forget to vote! by areusche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This BS has got to stop. I'm going to go and burn some karma, but websites should not be pulling April Fools jokes a day or two early. Why? Because sarcasm is lost in text. The humor in this article was not obvious that I ended up thinking it was true. Haha I was fooled! On march 31st! Stop the jokes when they're not supposed to be done. This article would have been easier to spot in the late 90s with IE 4 and 5. Nowadays they're doing better.

  15. IETab for IE 8.1 by mistapotta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can I run IE Tab on Internet Explorer and make the world explode?

  16. Re:Don't forget to vote! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Check out the author's tagline at the end:

    Jacob Gube is a professional contemporary dancer for the New York City Dance Company. An avid Steve Jobs follower(/stalker)*, you can find him in the local Star Bucks with his Mac Book Air developing .NET applications. Follow him on Twitter⦠if you really must.

    *Seriously Steve, was that restraining order necessary? I was only trying to give you a hug. In retrospect, I shouldâ(TM)ve not done that naked.

  17. Re:Don't forget to vote! by digitalunity · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hereby turn in my Slashdot member card until it is 4/2/2009 or later in all time zones.

    Thanks.
    digitalunity

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  18. Re:Don't forget to vote! by eddy+the+lip · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or a -1.

    I love a good hoax as much as the next guy (the perl/python/parrot thing was great), but I dread April 1 every year now. Disabling every second news source on the planet for 24 hours leaves me with nothing to do but actual work.

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  19. Re:Don't forget to vote! by master5o1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, but when the site's URL has the date in it, and it's 31 March, then it's really stupid. I'm in New Zealand so It's been April for 10 hours now.


    http://www.smashingmagazine.com/ 2009/03/31/breaking-internet-explorer-81-eagle-eyes-leaked/

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  20. Extensions are not plugins by linuxci · · Score: 4, Informative

    Extensions are not plugins. Take a look in your Firefox addons menu if you don't believe me. Plugins are things like Flash, they're written to a specification (NPAPI) that originates in the Netscape days, it is supported by all major browser makers EXCEPT Microsoft. That's why on Windows there's two versions of Flash (not talking 32/64 bit issues here) one for IE and one for everyone else.

    IE used to support the Netscape plugins API, but removed it around about IE5.5 if I remember, the idea was to force developers to write an IE version (ActiveX) if they wanted to support IE. They were probably hoping that plugin developers would have just developed for the more popular IE and ignore Netscape, finally killing browser competition off for good.

    Fortunately the increase in popularity of alternative vouchers has kept the NPAPI alive, meaning that plugins written for one browser will work on them all.

    Now the problem with plugins is they're written in compiled code and therefore a version needs to be written for each OS. Extensions on the other hand are usually written in XUL and JavaScript and so extensions will normally work on any platform, but extensions are specific to a particular browser. So plugins are OS specific, extensions are browser specific.

    So when I read that IE8.1 supports Firefox plugins, my first thought was that IE was bringing back support for the NPAPI that they removed in IE5.5 making it easier for plugin developers. I knew that it was not possible that IE could support Firefox extensions. That would be almost impossible to implement for anything more than the most trivial extension.

  21. Re:Don't forget to vote! by FelixNZ · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's been April 1st here for 10 hours now you insensitive clod!

  22. Re:Don't forget to vote! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can have your member card back. 4th of February has passed in all time zones I know of

  23. Best April Fools EVER by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you skim the thing, it seems pretty real, but once you get into it, you find gems like:

    "[Pauses to answer a call from his iPhone]"

    "Internet Explorer has always been the leader of executing client-side scripts, but that didnâ(TM)t stop Microsoft from continuing its thirst for excellence by including a completely new JavaScript engine called JSE, which stands for JavaScript Speedy Engine"

    This article is just great...what sucks for Microsoft is, everyone wishes this article were true!

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  24. Why isn't this headline PINK? by fruity_pebbles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    April Fool's deserves the full color treatment!

  25. Re:Don't forget to vote! by MooUK · · Score: 4, Funny

    It is already well past the fourth of February, 2009. You may keep your card.

  26. Happy Conflicker Day! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    This BS has got to stop. I'm going to go and burn some karma, but websites should not be pulling April Fools jokes a day or two early. Why?

    In former Soviet Russian city of Moscow, is already April 1, so April Fools you, yanks.

  27. Re:Don't forget to vote! by Warll · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh you think that is confusing? Throughout Canada we use all of them! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Canada

  28. Re:They gave me mod points for April 1st by PhxBlue · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just randomly mod things "funny" until you run out of points. :)

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  29. Re:Don't forget to vote! by MooUK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I still prefer YYYYMMDD. Automatic date sorting makes some things so much easier.

  30. Re:Don't forget to vote! by Randle_Revar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DD/MM/YYYY is better than MM/DD/YYYY, but still not as good as YYYY/MM/DD

  31. Re:Don't forget to vote! by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where is the omgponies tag?

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  32. Re:Lirpa Loof by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you ask most people what today's date is, they'll say March 31, 2009.

    I'm not saying it's the best way, but that's how they say it.

    For example, what's your birtday?

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  33. Re:Don't forget to vote! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be fair, Felix, New Zealand just does not matter.

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  34. Re:Don't forget to vote! by atraintocry · · Score: 3, Funny

    So you fell for an April Fool's joke...that's sort of the point :)

  35. Re:Lirpa Loof by Keeper+Of+Keys · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm a Brit. To me that way sounds American. My birthday? The Twenty-Ninth of November, my good man, and I'll say yes to that pint of Old Peculier. Cheers!

  36. Re:Don't forget to vote! by WED+Fan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Willing to bet the /. editor let this through thinking it was real as well.

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