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VLC 0.9.9, The Best Media Player Just Got Better

Matt Asay points out a recent update to VLC as they narrow in on a 1.0 release. Already a favorite of many, the open source project has made great strides in recent history towards really solidifying the position as best-in-class. This update, 0.9.9, fixes several display bugs and sees some definite performance improvements. "If you've yet to try VLC, do so. Whether you just want to play media files or also want to convert them, VLC can handle just about anything you throw at it. When all other media players fail, whether on Windows, Linux, or the Mac, VLC will almost always deliver. You can download VLC media player 0.9.9 here. It's open source, but that's not why you'll want to keep using it. You'll use it because it's better than its proprietary peers — by a long stretch.

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  1. Better than mplayer? by Murpster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Color me skeptical.

    1. Re:Better than mplayer? by Bashae · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a Windows user. I prefer Media Player Classic to VLC. It just works better for me.

    2. Re:Better than mplayer? by Mooga · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know I'm going to be hated, but VLC simply lacks a USABLE GUI. Give me Media Player Classic (MPC) with klite codec pack any day over VLC. I've tried to get used to VLC and I can't do it. I will give Mplayer a try though. I've use it in a Kubuntu VM and the experience is iffy at best...

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    3. Re:Better than mplayer? by queequeg1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      +1. Media Player Classic has been so good on difficult files that if it fails, I generally just give up (on the assumption that figuring out how to play such a difficult file will be more trouble than it's worth).

    4. Re:Better than mplayer? by InsertWittyNameHere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I got the most recent BSG DVDs and tried to play them on everything I had. VLC didn't work beyond the root screen. Windows Media Player failed. Intervideo DVD player crashed every time. It wasn't until I loaded the K lite codec full that I could get it to play...and only on the Media Player Classic frontend.

      Sounds worse than DRM!

    5. Re:Better than mplayer? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Its a bloody video player man. It goes without saying that the OUTPUT is GRAPHICAL. Why wouldn't you want to USE a GRAPHICAL user interface to it?

      I can almost forgive elitism in some avenues, but this is just making your life more complicated for no good reason.

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    6. Re:Better than mplayer? by Zerth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because I'm watching a movie, not the graphical interface.

      I'd rather hit the volume up button on my keyboard instead of waggling the mouse until the overlay pops up and then wait while it blocks part of the movie until it fades again.

    7. Re:Better than mplayer? by ACMENEWSLLC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Media Player Classic was great, but it's no longer updated and has several security flaws that are un patched. You can run a Secunia offline scan (download the scanner) and it will give you all the details about this.

      VLC is far superior to Media Player Classic. It can play almost anything. It has a problem with WMV's that are encrypted or require a codec download (usually a virus if p2p.) On Mac, it can play encrypted DVDs too. Add the playlists for Shoutcast and you have tens of thousands of audio and video channels.

      You can merge streams such as two axis video cameras into a single display. You can overlay things. You can record it to disk or re-stream it. You have many effects such as motion detection and motion blur which when set to max, is pretty nice for CCTV use.

      And with VLC, you don't have to hunt for CODECs like you do with WMPlayer.

      It's really worth trying out.

    8. Re:Better than mplayer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree VLC needs some serious GUI changes. Especially the ability to play a DVD without bringing up a giant options screen!

  2. VLC is OK. by c0l0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    VLC is an OK media playback application. I, for one, never understood why someone would prefer it over using mplayer. It's got all the nice libavcodec improvements first, and is the perfect example of unintrusive UI design (note that I'm talking about the CLI-only `mplayer`, not `gmplayer` or any other graphical front-end).

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    1. Re:VLC is OK. by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Admittedly a command line is pretty much the only thing that could be more minimal than the VLC interface, but you're probably in a fairly niche market if you find a CLI media player to be the most intuitive. Each to their own and all that, though.

    2. Re:VLC is OK. by Microlith · · Score: 3, Insightful

      the perfect example of unintrusive UI design (note that I'm talking about the CLI-only `mplayer`, not `gmplayer` or any other graphical front-end).

      That doesn't strike me as being an unintrusive UI, so much as the omission of a visible UI. That's intrusive in its own right, since it leaves you fumbling for controls until you read the manual and memorize the keys.

      Unintrusive UIs would probably be what VLC/Quicktime use on OS X, with a control set that fades in and out if you move the mouse, in addition to the keyboard actions.

    3. Re:VLC is OK. by PitaBred · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I still use the non-GUI mplayer to play videos, even if I click on them. The arrow keys and other controls are just easier to navigate the video than the clicky controls. And if I'm watching the video full-screen (which is usually) there's no room for the GUI controls anyway, so why even bother?

  3. Re:Saying your the best will only lead to a letdow by Murpster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Using "your" for "you're" and accusing someone of bragging when a third party says it's the best also makes you look like a jerk.

  4. Not so hot for hi def content by HardCase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    VLC has been a non-starter for me because I can't use better performing codecs for high definition content. The internal codec doesn't approach the performance of several other codecs. I'm sticking with Media Player Classic for my XP system. It's a much better player.

    By the way, does anybody else feel like the story's headline looks like it came straight from Digg?

  5. Re:Saying your the best will only lead to a letdow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think I speak for most of the community when I say "shut the fuck up, you illiterate retard."

  6. The most important question is... by CAFED00D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did they make a better desktop icon yet?

  7. Re:Until... by Microlith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Until VLC plays video's in RAR file without having to decompress them manually

    What the hell does this, and why?

    What insane reasoning do you use to stick a video file inside a RAR (or any other compressed archive for that matter?) Jamming a compressed file into a compressed container usually results in a file size increase. I would stop complaining that VLC doesn't support something insane, and try to justify why that behavior is in any way valuable and -not- insane.

  8. Re:Until... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many of the "content release teams" will make their official releases in multipart RAR format.

    Apparently, Usenet is now for the "1337".

    The end result is that even if you get such releases via BitTorrent, there's still a good chance they're distributed as multipart RARs. A video player that can play such files lets you view the video in its "seedable" form.

    Of course, I just simply stop seeding such content much earlier than I normally would. If someone wants me to seed, they should make it EASY for me to seed by having the "seedable" form equal the "viewable" form.

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  9. Re:Ogg Frog! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You want the best media player? Go with the Frog. Ogg Frog, that is. vlc? They can't get their mutexes right, so who knows what else they got wrong. iTunes? Sure, if you don't mind the fact the stale buffer bugs when you're ripping CDs.

    Ummm, excuse Mr. Crawford, errr...Ogg Frog, but, um, your website says that Ogg Frog hasn't been released yet. Furthermore, your website hasn't been updated since 2005. I think perhaps Duke Nukem Forever has a better chance of being released before Ogg Frog.

    -- Just some guy who's been wondering when you'll release the damned thing

  10. Re:Eh... by Facegarden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course it does, but generally i keep my keyboard stowed when using my Media Center. The mouse is small so I keep it with the remotes

    Well, http://wiki.videolan.org/Mouse_Gestures then...

    From your link:

    left : Short time skip backward (10sec by default)
    right : Short time skip forward (10sec by default)
    left-up : Faster
    right-up : Slower
    left-down : Go to previous entry in playlist
    right-down : Go to next entry in playlist
    left-right : Play/Pause
    right-left : Play/Pause
    up : Volume up
    down : Volume down
    up-down : Mute Volume
    down-up : Mute Volume
    up-right : Change Audio track
    down-right : Change Subtitle track
    up-left : Enter fullscreen mode
    down-left : Quit VLC

    Hmm... They do ALL that and they can't add
    "Single click: Play/pause"? Lame. I mean, obviously not everyone cares but it works REALLY well being able to click to pause in MPC. Gestures? Gestures are like the red-headed stepchild of interface methods - they are weird and people don't like them. Meanwhile, *clicking* the mouse, the thing it was designed to do, does nothing. I find this highly irritating.

    And even if there is some way to force it, or make it work, or open some config file and change a line, why the hell isn't it standard!? It works well and fits right in where there is currently NO interface feature. It seems dead obvious to me and its simple things like that that make me question a project. Forget about pausing, who uses VLC and doesn't wish the trackbar expanded when you went full screen? I have a nice 1920x1080 TV and the trackbar is only like 600px wide. WTF? Try scrolling back 60 seconds in the godfather on a 600px wide trackbar 'cause your friend distracted you on a good part. That's damn tough, 60 seconds is only 3 pixels! if it were 1920 wide it would be 10px - tough but 3 times easier! I mean if this were a beta that would be fine but VLC has been around forever! I know they're still not at v1.0 but gmail is still in beta, so that's not always in indicator.

    And the fact that it's more processor intensive than MPC? How many people are working on VLC that they can't even match MPC? MPC even streams better over a LAN at my place, which is funny because VIDEO LAN CLIENT should be better!
    -Taylor

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  11. GOMPlayer vs. VLC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I have used VLC for many years, and am happy to see them finally put out an update. I love VLC because it will play just about anything - DVDs without a separate decoder installed, xvids, MP4s, Quicktime movies, and so on. It never fails.

    However, it has plenty of bugs, and the user interface needs a lot of work. Integration with other applications like IE or Acrobat Reader is problematic. Often have problems playing videos on your second monitor as well, though supposedly that is fixed in this release.

    IMO GOMPlayer has the best user interface out there; you can customize mappings functions like fast forward, rewind, multiple volume controls... lots of functions that you can map quite easily to customize it to how you use it. The problem with GOMPlayer though? It needs you to install codecs for just about everything.

    The perfect media player for me would something like the customizable user interface in GOMPlayer combined with the extensive codec support included in VLC Player.

    That's my 2 cents anyway...

  12. Holy shazbot batman by ADRA · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Instead of polishing your knob in an article about how good you are, why not just TELL US what features makes the product so innovative than say 0.9.8, or 0.9.7, etc..

    In terms of the poster's 'I'm the best' position, I'd say they fall flat in that regard as well.

    1. For windows nothing can beat Media Player Classic. Nothing. It has just enough GUI to do what it was designed for, to play videos. It has all the configuration you'll ever need in the background, and if you don't it generally works out of the box for 90% of the things you want.

    As for codecs, you have several options on how to get all the needed codecs, and you can bet that a large number of them support DxVA (where applicable) out of the box, which means you have a fast low overhead media player that plays pretty much everything you throw at it.

    For Linux, that's a different story. Linux's equivalent of DirectShow(The decoding pipeline for media content) is gstreamer, but it suffers from a serious lack of adoption. We have Totem, but lets admit that if there's anything you need outside of the totem defaults, you're screwed.

    The alternative is to use all-in-one-package media players. The obviously suffer in that if the codec / format / playback feature you're looking for isn't supported by the player, the whole stack becomes useless. But, this is sadly exactly what you're stuck with. Our options are: VLC/Xine/Mplayer and gui variants thereof.

    VLC is fine, but its never had specifically good support on my hardware, and there are -many- videos that fail to play where other players can.

    Xine is why software developers should never be put in charge of UI design. The UI stinks so badly, that the only time I ever open it is when all other players fail to play properly.

    Mplayer is probably the most codec compatible player out there, but then again, there's no GUI for people to interact with. Unless you're a keyboard/command line nazi, you'll most likely decide that there's no point in Mplayer without one of its many available front-ends. I've tried a few over the years, and the only one that (finally) met my happy path requirements for > 80% of the time was SMPlayer. It is a great frontend to Mplayer, and gets my thumbs up. It keeps the complexity of selecting appropriate devices within the preferences if I really care to tweak them, but the out of box experience is also pretty good.

    For anyone reading this post who is actually a contributor to these projects, PLEASE try to focus on supporting a pipelined system like gstreamer, or writing codecs that can be plugged in willy nilly instead of monolithic all-in.

    I think a real winner on linux would be:
    1. A user interface akin to SMPlayer, in terms of its toolbars, layouts, config (in general)
    2. A container/codec glue that is well understood and powerful enough to support codecs, overlays, user input, etc.. I think gstreamer is this tool, but maybe it needs work on the input side of things *shrugs*
    3. A set of simple codec/container implementations with simple APIs so that they can be plugged into any pipeline without gratuitous hacks. Ideally, these implementations could be interchangeable and upgradable without requiring recompilation of their glue layer

    Ack, that's about it.

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  13. Re:VLC is illegal in the US by rrohbeck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who the fuck cares?
    This is one of those laws like "Thou shalt not smoke pot" or "Thou shalt not have sex before 18" (at least around here.) No victim. No harm. Not enforceable.