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Apple Patent Claim Threatens To Block Or Delay W3C

Kelson writes "The W3C Widget specification is running into a problem: Apple claims a patent on automatic updates and is unwilling to license it royalty-free in the event that it impacts the spec. The W3C is investigating to determine whether the spec includes anything covered by the patent, and decide what to do."

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  1. Re:Oh, Apple by sweatyboatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it's a software patent.

    start hating.

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  2. Re:Oh, Apple by Shrike82 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Worse, it's a patent on a ridiculously general software concept.

    I can't stand these kinds of patents, especially when they block progress and innovation.

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  3. I posted to the wrong story. by JO_DIE_THE_STAR_F*** · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I just posted this in the last story (Happy 40th Birthday, Internet RFCs)

    From the article "It probably helped that in those days we avoided patents and other restrictions; without any financial incentive to control the protocols, it was much easier to reach agreement." Exactly why patents don't work in their current form.

    Now it seems more appropriate for this story.

  4. Re:I'm confused by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Meh. Apple is basically just Microsoft with an inferiority complex.

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  5. without interruption of its primary function... by krischik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... and in a manner that is completely transparent to the user of the computer.

    In my book that means: no need for a restart. Completely different from what i.E. FireFox / Thunderbird and the like do - needing to ask the user to stop with his / her work in order to perform the update.

    Not trivial.

  6. Re:See! by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exhibit A: Microsoft Windows--makes a lot of money AND they don't care about users. Exhibit B: Mac OSX--makes a lot of money but has to care about users, otherwise they render themselves obsolete.

    Apple "cares" about its users the same way a gold-digging wife "cares" about her husband, or a manufactured pop music group "cares" about its fans.

    Apple cares about keeping its users blinded with shiny distractions, sure. It does not care about providing quality products or services, or about the long-term well-being of its customers.

    Apple has been a bunch of lawsuit trolls since the infamous "look and feel" lawsuits of the late 1980s. There are every bit as evil as Microsoft, just smaller and wrapper in a prettier box.

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  7. I call shenanigans! by sweatyboatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    this patent is total BS!

    the patent description makes it sound like we're talking about a system for automatically updating any program while its running without any interruption (which would be quite a feat if accomplished, but still not worthy of a process patent because its an obvious goal).

    However the operation the patent actually describes is as follows:

    1) I click on an icon to launch an application,
    2) a process starts that checks to see if I have the latest version of the application
    2a) if I have the latest, it launches the application
    2b) if I don't have the latest, it replaces my copy with the latest and the launches the application

    this stuff about "transparently running" and "no need for restart" is a red herring. of course there's no need for restart, the program isn't running yet!

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  8. Re:I'm confused by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't see Steve Jobs with sweaty underarms, do you?

    That's why he always wears black: there's not enough contrast to see it;-) Apple certainly has a far better marketing department, and they've gone to great lengths to not only play up their image, but to tie their products to that image; but once you're beyond that they are every bit as deceptive and secretive as Microsoft. They've essentially convinced an entire class of consumers to think that they are "different" from everyone else when they really just aren't. The inferiority comes from reacting vehemently over any thing that is said along those lines, which is why, like my initial post, this will be modded down to -1 TROLL in no time.

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