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Jack Thompson Spams Utah Senate, May Face Legal Action

eldavojohn writes "Yesterday, GamePolitics ran an interesting story about the Utah Senate President threatening Jack Thompson with the CAN-SPAM Act. You might recall Utah being Jack's last hope and hold-out after being disbarred in Florida and more or less made a mockery everywhere else. Well, from Utah's Senate Site, we get the picture of what Jack is up to now: spamming his last friends on the planet. The Salt Lake Tribune is reporting on Senate President Michael Waddoups' statements: 'I asked you before to remove me from your mailing list. I supported your bill but because of the harassment will not again. If I am not removed, I will turn you over to the AG for legal action.' The Salt Lake Tribune reports that Waddoups confirmed on Tuesday that he would attempt to pursue legal action under the federal CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 against Jack Thompson."

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  1. Low lifes by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Is there any lower life form than a spammer?

    We used to think that Thompson was lower than a spammer, but we're not so sure nowadays...

    1. Re:Low lifes by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is there any lower life form than a spammer?

      Rapists, murders and Yankees fans all come to mind ;)

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    2. Re:Low lifes by TheLinuxSRC · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the problem is that not only is this guy Jack Thompson, but he is also a spammer. That is akin to a division by zero or adding multiple infinities - the human mind simply cannot comprehend that level of low.

    3. Re:Low lifes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pittsburgh fans. Oh wait, you already said rapists and murderers...

    4. Re:Low lifes by WCguru42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, advanced Calculus, where some infinities aren't quite as big as other infinities. That, like much of semiconductor physics, I take on faith and trust that smarter people have done their work correctly.

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  2. It's guys like him who give lawyers a bad name by jonaskoelker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Per subject: it's guys like Jack Thompson who give lawyers a bad name.

    He has lost his mission, he has lost his friends, and what does he do---piss away the last he had.

    Truly this is the time to quote Leia: the more you tighten your grip, the more systems will slip through your fingers.

    Soon, all Jack will have left is an empty clenched fist, which he will be free to wave at anyone passing by his soap box.

    May it be put on a deserted island.

    Now, let's all play a game with tits and guns! :D

    1. Re:It's guys like him who give lawyers a bad name by Bieeanda · · Score: 4, Funny

      If he's sending suggestive e-mails, then he's probably going to end up with one thing in his clenched fist...

  3. This is just more proof by Spazztastic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is just more proof that Jack Thompson, much like Steve Balmer, was put on this earth to be an infinite source of entertainment. As long as people like Jack try to attack violent video games and remove them from the shelves, they will never succeed. His tactics of idiocy and harassment don't seem to work.

    I wonder if anybody has ever pointed him to /. and everybody who hates him...

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    1. Re:This is just more proof by stoned_hamster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wonder if anybody has ever pointed him to /. and everybody who hates him...

      I wonder. I recently passed some corner preachers who took a passage from the Bible and twisted it all out of context. I stopped and engaged them in a conversation, proving they were wrong in the context they had chosen. They got all flustered and declared me a (direct quote, mind you) "Spawn of Satan, send to this world to corrupt these people of God" and continued to shout out about what they had been preaching about.
      Its people like this who believe that what they do and say is right and everyone who believes in different things that are a real problem to society.

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    2. Re:This is just more proof by Spazztastic · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm sure he spends all his time worying about what slashdot thinks about him (um, not). Gimme a break.

      You'd be surprised. Often people who are such narcissists do care what the public thinks of them. He may have all of the bible thumpers rallying behind him, but the second that someone does say something poor about him or he doesn't get his way he does seem to react with malice.

      He also sent a letter to Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick's attorney, addressed to Zelnick's mother, in which Thompson accused her son of "doing everything he possibly can to sell as many copies of GTA: IV to teen boys in the United States, a country in which your son claims you raised him to be a 'a Boy Scout'. ... More like the Hitler Youth, I would say."

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    3. Re:This is just more proof by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I got called "the scum of the earth! Lower than scum! It is people like you that are ruining this world for good GOD fearing people." This was while volunteering at a church and fasting for charity. Apparently someone found out I was 'an atheist infiltrator'. This was at the easy going Protestant church, I worry what might have happened had I volunteered at the hardcore Catholic church across the street.

  4. God Dammit! by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why couldn't he have given us some warning before doing that?

    Now we have to arrange for confetti and parade floats and marching bands all on short notice!

    Does he have any idea how hard it is to get a 500ft Master Chief balloon in just a couple days?

  5. Re:Finally by fictionpuss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know, not *everything* written about Jack Thompson is true. A while back I went to the trouble of tracking down his email address to quiz him over some outrageous comment.

    I was somewhat surprised, but more disappointed to receive a civil and level-headed response.

  6. Jack Thompson is right: it's NOT spam. by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Spam is commercial email. This is email about a pending legislative action, and thus Jack Thompson has the right to send it because he has a right to free speech.

    But all that means is that the CAN-SPAM act isn't the appropriate law to attack him with: instead, the Senator should just go for plain-old harassment.

    Besides, there's nothing that says the Senator has to listen to him -- that's what filters are for! Let Jack Thompson write to /dev/null to his heart's content.

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    1. Re:Jack Thompson is right: it's NOT spam. by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      IIRC CAN-SPAM (might as well just add some words to the name and call it the CAN-HAS-SPAM act, but whatever) makes specific exemptions for political advertisements and solicitations by nonprofits, but says nothing about whether the content is commercial or not.

      Further, there is no reason why I or my ISP or any other email provider should have to bear the cost of accepting spam. That is pure crap, and arguably theft of services, though obviously IANAL — it might not hold up in court, but I think I can construct a fairly logical argument along those lines.

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    2. Re:Jack Thompson is right: it's NOT spam. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Spam is commercial email. This is email about a pending legislative action, and thus Jack Thompson has the right to send it because he has a right to free speech.

      Just to clarify...

      Spam is not always commercial email. However, I believe the CAN-SPAM act is only concerned with unsolicited commercial email. So in that sense, you're probably right that the CAN-SPAM act doesn't apply to this case.

      As for filters - that's what spammers say. I don't buy the argument. At some point, the harasser will attempt to bypass filters and you end up inducing a cost to keep ahead of the filtering arms race.

    3. Re:Jack Thompson is right: it's NOT spam. by geobeck · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's time to create a new term for the reasoning used by lawyers: lawgic. It's just like logic, except that... well, actually it's nothing like logic; that's why we need a special term.

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    4. Re:Jack Thompson is right: it's NOT spam. by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Michael Waddoups should be put in jail. You do have a point here, but I'll go one better. He previously supported Jack's bill, but now because Jack is exercising his right of free speech, however annoyingly, Michael is not going to support the bill. This is not commercial, and it is only unsolicited in the sense that they did not expect it. But of all people lawmakers should be accepting input on pending legislation. Claiming this is SPAM is clearly abuse of the laws they made, and they should know better. Utah State Senate President should absolutely know better.

      He is deciding his vote on the personal actions of one of the parties - not whether the bill is good for the people. Better still, he is deciding on his opinion of the actions of one of the parties. He is guilty of not doing his job, which is to represent the people. I read his comments as "You have to go through me, I get to choose the laws."

      I don't know which bill this is, and can only assume it's as idiotic as Jack Thompson has proven himself to be. But Michael should not be playing this game in public. I will shut down your bill if I don't like you, regardless of whether it is good for the people.

  7. Not his first time. by kramer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not long after being disbarred, Ol' Jack spammed the entire membership of the Florida Bar (all Florida lawyers) asking for personal stories about how other members have been "unfairly" targeted by the Florida Bar. I presume he wanted to start some sort of class action suit, but I haven't heard anything further about it.

  8. First Amendment by internic · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I understand this correctly, Thompson was petitioning elected representatives for a particular change in law. No matter how annoying his tactics or the fact that he was asked to stop, I have to believe that any prosecution of him for these actions would be thrown out on first amendment grounds. Recall that the first amendment reads as follows (emphasis mine):

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Of course, in usual Slashdot fashion, IANAL.

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    1. Re:First Amendment by SBacks · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You have a very interesting point. However, he's petitioning the Utah state government, which he is not a constituent of. Does the 1st apply to just your local/state/national government, or to every local/state government?

      Any lawyers around to clarify?

  9. Surprise! by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, from Utah's Senate Site, we get the picture of what Jack is up to now: spamming his last friends on the planet.

    He still has friends?

  10. This use of CAN-SPAM is unconstitutional by JSBiff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, well, I really hate to be on the side of Jack Thompson, but. . .

    U.S. Constitution - 1st Amendment:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Simply put, if you are a legislator, you have no right to ask people to not petition you. Jack Thompson was exercising his contitutionally protected right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. There is nothing CAN-SPAM can do about that. Such an application would be clearly unconstitutional.

    Now, that said. . . there's such a thing as an email filter that automatically deletes email from certain senders. . .

    1. Re:This use of CAN-SPAM is unconstitutional by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Can you imagine if a Congressman was legally required to read every piece of correspondence and listen to every speaker? You could paralyze a government by hiring enough speakers / writers to take up every available moment of the Congressman's time (and then still file a lawsuit because your hired army never got their time due to waiting in line behind all the other hired armies).

  11. Re:His punishment should be... by Pop69 · · Score: 4, Funny

    *Gameshark or other cheats no allowed

    He's allowed hot coffee now and again isn't he ?

  12. Re:So, what was it? by gmack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These tactics remind me of a trick on how to check out other girls with your significant other present: feigned outrage.

    "Wow look at her shes wearing almost nothing at all. Will you look at that top? You can almost see right down her shirt. And look at those pants! They are so tight they show everything. Disgusting isn't it?"

    The simple fact is, if you don't like something, the natural human tendency is to stop looking at it.

    Meanwhile this guy has played enough GTA to find the lap dance clip and went browsing through the adult section of a gay website to find a picture to include in his legal filings?

  13. Please don't make this mistake again ... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Truly this is the time to quote Leia: ..."

    Truly, there is never a time to quote Leia. Not even on Slashdot. Truly.

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    1. Re:Please don't make this mistake again ... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Truly, there is never a time to quote Leia. Not even on Slashdot. Truly.

      I know. Somehow, I've always known.

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  14. Re:Finally by KDR_11k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do assume that a court record describes things that actually happened and you should try reading the record of his disbarrment trial.

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  15. Re:Finally by DJRumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

    This guy isn't a spammer in the typical sense. He's a hack 'lawyer' that's been permanently disbarred in Florida for false statements, disparaging remarks, and humiliating litigants.

    He's tried to get music banned due to explicit content, violent video games banned because they incite violence, video games declared as pornography, etc., etc., etc. You know they type. More concerned about everyone else's business rather than minding his own.

    He's essentially wants to ensure that everyone else lives to his own moral standards regardless of their beliefs or how they want to raise their children.

    He's just a big born-again right wing religious wack job for lack of a better term. This latest spam suit is just his latest 'label' among many.

  16. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi Jack! Nice of you to join us!

  17. Re:Finally by nomadic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This guy isn't a spammer in the typical sense. He's a hack 'lawyer' that's been permanently disbarred in Florida for false statements, disparaging remarks, and humiliating litigants.

    It was funny, right after being disbarred he sent a long, impassioned letter to all of the rest of us in the Florida Bar asking us to rally around him. I always wondered if anyone did.

  18. Re:You're a fucking moron. by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that the CAN-SPAM act in particular may not apply doesn't change the widely accepted definition of spam.

    But the "widely accepted definition" isn't the one that's relevant to this discussion. The Senator threatened to invoke the CAN-SPAM Act, which means that definition is the relevant one.

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  19. Eh, not so much by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not surprising when a pig gets dirty. He's just found a new way to do it is all. I wouldn't be surprised if he started cold calling people on their cell phones next, or sending unsolicited faxes.

    The guy has absolutely no clue when it comes to tech issues. None. This whole spam thing is yet another demonstration of that.

    Nothing he does is really surprising.

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  20. I've said it all along... by CompassIIDX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jack Thomson is actually a hardcore gamer.

    Think about it. He's arguably done more to marginalize the anti-videogame movement than anyone else in history. His over-the-top, histrionic antics absolutely destroy any credibility his arguments might have.

    I never understood why gamers cheered for his downfall. Imagine if there was someone competent in his place? ::shudder::

  21. Re:So, what was it? by WCguru42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    These tactics remind me of a trick on how to check out other girls with your significant other present: feigned outrage.

    "Wow look at her shes wearing almost nothing at all. Will you look at that top? You can almost see right down her shirt. And look at those pants! They are so tight they show everything. Disgusting isn't it?"

    And that actually worked for you? No offense, but you need to find smarter women to date.

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