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"Apple Tax" Report Backfires On Microsoft

Ian Lamont writes "A Microsoft-sponsored report that describes a hidden "Apple tax" has fallen flat among the technology press. Roger Kay's report (PDF) compares various PC and Mac configurations, and claims an all-Apple household's costs would add up to an extra $3,367 over five years. Tech columnists and bloggers have slammed the comparisons and claims made in the report — even Mac-baiter John C. Dvorak calls it propaganda. However, some Mac fans still see a pro-Microsoft press conspiracy. Even if the comparisons are questionable, Kay's report and the accompanying television ads have clearly struck a nerve among the Mac faithful." Meanwhile, Linux users everywhere are scratching their heads.

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  1. Re:Meh. by mdwh2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    but if Apple can command that price and have people pay it, what's wrong with that?

    I don't think anyone is claiming it's wrong in the sense of it being unethical!

    But if Microsoft want to point out they are lower cost that competitors, what's wrong with that?

    Just as Apple have every right to make their products expensive if they wish, people have a right to point this out when arguing about which computer is best. The issue is about what platform is best, not whether companies have a legal or ethical right to make their products expensive.

  2. Re:Hidden Microsoft Taxes I Have Paid by BlitzTech · · Score: 4, Informative

    You forgot:

    Office 2007 -> Office 2003 Incompatibility Tax
    Reformat Every Six Months To Actually Clean The Registry Tax
    Call Microsoft Every Time You Have To Reformat Tax
    UAC Windows Popping Up All The Freaking Time Tax

    Just to name a few.

  3. Re:Meh. by guruevi · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is also the Macbook White for 999 and the Macbook Alu for 1299. If you are really cheap, you can also go to their "Refurb" or "Clearance" page and you can get things other people sent back or the previous model for a very good price (and yes, they are tested and inspected so you don't get the crap somebody else destroyed). If you go to school or college or work for the government or an educational institution you usually get a discount too.

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  4. Re:Meh. by somersault · · Score: 4, Informative

    I felt the same about my MBP at first, but even with the underclocked-as-standard graphics card that comes with it, it gets incredibly noisy when running 3D games, and after a couple of hours it just locks up due to overheating. So they may be fine for light work, but some of the engineering is actually rather poor. I ended up reading a lot of horror stories about Mac assembly over the last few years, thermal paste being applied too liberally to the CPU etc, so perhaps the machine would run better if I cleaned it out and re-applied the thermal paste myself, but I don't want to have to do that when I've already paid over a thousand pounds for the machine.

    I switched to Ubuntu because it does everything that OSX did (Avant Window Manager), but it's free. The OSX UI is pretty nice, but Ubuntu is even better once you setup compiz correctly, and Avant Window Manager is a great replacement for the Dock.

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  5. Re:Meh. by DrLang21 · · Score: 5, Informative

    With Apple's higher end laptops, I've tried to configure an equivalent system from Dell. The result is that high end systems cost a lot of money (Dell's was a couple hundred cheaper by the way). Also keep in mind that with Apple, if your shit's broke, they send you a box next day air, you put your laptop in and and ship it back next day air with the label they give you, and then you usually get it back within 3 days, no charge if you're still under warranty. That's pretty hardcore service compared to the on-site service I've had from Dell.

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  6. Re:How about those hidden linux taxes? by corsec67 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The ease of installing software on many Linux distributions shouldn't be overrated.

    If I want to install OpenOffice, Gimp, Pidgin, Blender, Thunderbird, Emacs, VI, Akregator, GimageViewer, Gnome Terminal, etc. it is easy to do that in one command in linux, but doing that in Windows, even with all of the specified software packages being open source is much more time consuming.

    sudo apt-get install openoffice gimp pidgin blender mozilla-thunderbird emacs vi akregator gimageview gnome-terminal

    Is tons easier than going to 10 different websites, downloading at least 10 install packages, installing all of them, etc. And then there is keeping all of that up to date.

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  7. Re:Meh. by ducomputergeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    This used to be a huge problem, then Apple switched to Intel and you can load Windows via Bootcamp for gaming. I had friends get the 512MB video card option on their MBP's just so they could play the latest games.

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  8. Re:How about those hidden linux taxes? by TheOtherChimeraTwin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, but there does seem to be a linux tax. Look at Dell's Ubuntu notebook offerings:

    • XPS M1530n for $974
    • XPS M1330n for $849

    (I'm leaving out the Mini 9n because it is a netbook with a tiny keyboard.) The cheapest Windows XPS M1530 is $899, and the Windows M1330 is $749. More importantly, I can get a Inspiron 15 laptop for $399. Less than HALF the cost of the cheapest Ubuntu notebook. (Never mind the specs here, I'm just looking for a cheap box with a real keyboard.)

    Let's look at system76 instead. Their cheapest notebook is a Darter Ultra for $739.

    Excluding netbooks, if I want a cheap notebook right now, the least expensive option is to buy a Windows notebook and then install Linux!