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Ubuntu 9.04 RC Released

Mohamed Zaian writes "The Ubuntu team has released the release candidate for Ubuntu 9.04; 'The Ubuntu team is happy to bring you the latest and greatest software the Open Source community has to offer. This is their latest result, the Ubuntu 9.04 release candidate, which brings a host of excellent new features.' The various other Ubuntu-derived distributions, like Kubuntu, have also had their RCs released."

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  1. Re:Anyone have a list? by Dreadneck · · Score: 5, Informative
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  2. Re:Gotta upgrade to 8.10 first by tpgp · · Score: 3, Funny

    And that means rebooting.

    Erm? Why is a reboot a problem?

    Do you run Ubuntu on your server? (In which case, why would you be considering a Release Candidate?)

    Or do you never reboot your home PC? (Surely you can afford a scheduled reboot overnight when you're sleeping).

    Or are you just after uptime bragging rights? (That's really a bit sad on a home computer that isn't under heavy load)

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  3. blah by nrgy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Eclipse 3.2.2 still? When do they plan on upgrading it? I mean they upgraded to PulseAudio and we all know how stable that thing is. *sigh*

    I've tried running Eclipse builds from other repositories and seem to always have issues with them. It would be nice if they updated to a later version.

    1. Re:blah by setagllib · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nobody I know uses the Ubuntu Eclipse package anyway. Just unpack Eclipse from eclipse.org somewhere and make a launcher for it. I also prefer to use the real JDK rather than OpenJDK, at least as long as OpenJDK has Swing bugs.

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    2. Re:blah by BlackCreek · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I second that. Eclipse can be a mess, downloading and installing it directly is, by far, the best option.

      I have a bunch of co-workers using Eclipse and Ubuntu. Nobody even considers using the Ubuntu distributed version. The age of this bug should make it clear how much attention Eclipse gets in Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/81900

      I was going to say that for Java development you are normally better off by downloading and setting up everything yourself, but I guess that is also true for all other programming languages. At least I did that also when developing with Python.

  4. upgraded yesterday by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Informative

    So far so good, bootime looks good, speed seems reasonable. No problems with stability to speak of yet.

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    1. Re:upgraded yesterday by rite_m · · Score: 5, Interesting
  5. ubuntu gets best practices paradigms-as-a-service! by gandhi_2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    FeatureList-> here

    Among the features are "cloud computing" and "turn-key" email servers. *groan*. You guys have been saying "linux needs an advertising dept"...well this is what happens.

  6. Re:Gotta upgrade to 8.10 first by tpgp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ubuntu is linux-based, not Windows. We're not used to rebooting all the time.

    Every 18 months is not "all the time".

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  7. Re:Gotta upgrade to 8.10 first by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Funny

    no, they restart automatically.. I mean, hey! I don't have any...........

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  8. Re:Beauty is still wanting by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://www.gnome-look.org/

    http://www.kde-look.org/

    no matter what the ubuntu devs choose for the default theme, someone is going to be unhappy and that is why we have whole domains devoted to hosting various shiny things to put on your *nix box to customize to your liking.

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  9. Re:Gotta upgrade to 8.10 first by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Takes effort to startup the programs that I keep running all the time on it. Takes more effort to script them so I don't have to spend effort starting them up on every reboot.

    How did you ever get Linux on your system in the first place?

    My present hypothesis is that your system crashed and the Ubuntu CD was marginally closer to your workstation than the Windows reinstall disk.

  10. Re:Gotta upgrade to 8.10 first by seizurebattlerobot · · Score: 5, Informative

    You are just being silly, right? Ubuntu 8.10 has had 5 kernel security updates in the 6 months since its release. Each one requires a reboot to be activated. Keeping a Linux installation secure requires frequent reboots.

    I prefer running Linux instead of other operating systems, but I find it disheartening to read silly statements like this. Let Linux stand on its own merits; there is no need to lie on its behalf.

    Here's that list in case you're curious:
    http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-751-1
    http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-715-1
    http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-679-1
    http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-662-1
    http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-661-1

  11. The pluses and the minuses from two weeks' usage by Pausanias · · Score: 4, Informative
    I've been running 9.04 on my Dell laptop for a few weeks now. Like every new release, it's a mixed bag.
    Pluses:
    • Really, super, extra fast boot (10 seconds on my newish Dell)
    • Fixes a lot of bugs (in GNOME mainly) from the previous release, Intrepid, which was their worst ever
    • Includes the ext4 file system---having upgraded to ext4, I'm really noticing the performance upgrade.

    Minuses:

    • Evolution suckage continues. This version of the mail client crashed on me on startup, plus the "remove duplicate email" plugin no longer works with it. I've had it with Evolution. I've migrated to Thunderbird, and am vastly more happy. I continue to use Evolution's calendaring system, but only as a way to get my google calendar onto the GNOME panel.
    • Broken NVIDIA binary blob drivers. Yet again. The intrepid drivers were OK, but now there's something toxic about the combination of either 173 or 180 and the Jaunty kernel. On 173 twinview locks up on me, and on 180 I get random hard lockups once a week. I have really had it with this nvidia binary blob garbage---I am anxiously awaiting some kind of dual monitor support in Nouveau, so I can ditch this piece of rubbish---a goblin that keeps on breaking Linux for many more people than just me, and always will, as long as the binary blob keeps on going.
  12. Re:The pluses and the minuses from two weeks' usag by spasm · · Score: 4, Informative

    The 'Lightning' add-on for Thunderbird lets you subscribe to multiple Google calendars & shows them as a sidebar to Thunderbird's mail window. Not quite the same as having it in Gnome panel, but I thought you might be curious to check it out if you weren't already aware of it.

  13. Re:Anyone have a list? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've noticed a large improvement in boot times with ext4 on my thinkpad x21 and compaq ev0 n610. The compaq has gone from 2+ minutes to approximately 1 minute, so smiles all round for jaunty from me.

  14. Intel video drivers suck! by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 3, Informative

    Woe to anyone using an intel video card! Right now we're experiencing random lockups, and performance has generally been subpar for a lot of people. I'm not sure how stable UXA is yet, earlier it was causing a lot of lockups.

  15. Seems pretty rough by Radhruin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just upgraded, and I gotta say, it's been pretty painful.

    • Had to reinstall sound drivers and get them working again (involves choosing a few settings here and there) and figure I need to restart to see any changes. Not the end of the world, but quite annoying, but then the fun began.
    • My System menu lacks a "Quit" option (no kidding).
    • During shutdown, my system speaker blared very quick (and LOUD) beeps during the entire shutdown process. When the final screen showed up, it changed to a constant tone for a couple seconds before dying away.
    • Booting up is very slow as it pauses at one place for 10 or more seconds, then the load screen bails. It says something about an IO error. Eventually it boots normally.
    • The monitor will not go to sleep. Instead the entire screen turns pure white. Thankfully the login box is there, you just can't see it, so it's possible to log in and clear the issue.

    There's also been a million smaller gripes here and there, and this is only after an hour or so. Basically, the user experience could use a major amount of work in my estimation :(

    1. Re:Seems pretty rough by andy.ruddock · · Score: 4, Informative

      The missing quit option is by design - look in the user-switcher menu. (I think it's stupid too.)

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  16. Re:The pluses and the minuses from two weeks' usag by iammani · · Score: 4, Informative

    Includes the ext4 file system---having upgraded to ext4, I'm really noticing the performance upgrade.

    Be warned that the ext4 implementation in the RC is buggy. See Known Issues. It is expected to be fixed in the final release. So, stay will ext3, and upgrade to ext4 once the final release comes out.

  17. Re:Anyone have a list? by noundi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can check the changelog of every own project/application if you're looking for specific features. I doubt they would compile an all-inclusive list like that. Besides I doubt you would even read it if they did, considering the size.

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  18. Re:Gotta upgrade to 8.10 first by Jamamala · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you're really determined though, you can always use ksplice to patch, and avoid rebooting.
    One more thing Linux has on Windows.

  19. ATI restricted drivers no longer support X600 by zoward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm running the Jaunty beta right now, and will probably regress to 8.10 soon because of the ATI drivers. The problem, AFAIK, is that the version of X.org 9.04 is shipping with will only support Catalyst 9.4 (currently in beta for linux). Catalyst 9.4 dropped support for a large number of older chipsets, basically anything earlier than R600, deferring to the always-improving open source ati drivers to support these. The open source driver is wonderful for 2D acceleration. It seems to handle all of the desktop effects with ease. The problem is that it's miles behind the fglrx (proprietary/Catalyst) drivers for 3D support. The reports I was able to scrounge online seem to indicate that open source ati 3D support is a good year away from general availability.

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  20. doesn't even boot by speedtux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    9.04 doesn't even boot on my laptop (an HP DV2, some kind of SATA driver problem).

    Furthermore, I can't figure out where to report this. What's the point of having a beta or an RC if it's difficult for users to give feedback?