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Ubuntu 9.04 RC Released
Mohamed Zaian writes "The Ubuntu team has released the release candidate for Ubuntu 9.04; 'The Ubuntu team is happy to bring you the latest and greatest software the Open Source community has to offer. This is their latest result, the Ubuntu 9.04 release candidate, which brings a host of excellent new features.' The various other Ubuntu-derived distributions, like Kubuntu, have also had their RCs released."
I've tried to find a list of the new features but I can't find anywhere with what looks like a complete one. Anyone want to help me out here? All I've noticed are that things look slightly different and then a couple things here and there.
Remember, this is "pre-release" software.
:)
Looks like there's lot of good stuff in there though - X.Org 1.6, Gnome 2.26, a kernel based on 2.6.28, ext4 support... (I'm especially interested in wacom hotplug tablet support in a mainstream distro
This won't be the year of the linux desktop- but we'll see how it goes on my laptop
http://www.bistolas.net
And that means rebooting.
Erm? Why is a reboot a problem?
Do you run Ubuntu on your server? (In which case, why would you be considering a Release Candidate?)
Or do you never reboot your home PC? (Surely you can afford a scheduled reboot overnight when you're sleeping).
Or are you just after uptime bragging rights? (That's really a bit sad on a home computer that isn't under heavy load)
My pics.
Eclipse 3.2.2 still? When do they plan on upgrading it? I mean they upgraded to PulseAudio and we all know how stable that thing is. *sigh*
I've tried running Eclipse builds from other repositories and seem to always have issues with them. It would be nice if they updated to a later version.
Takes effort to startup the programs that I keep running all the time on it.
Takes more effort to script them so I don't have to spend effort starting them up on every reboot.
How we know is more important than what we know.
So far so good, bootime looks good, speed seems reasonable. No problems with stability to speak of yet.
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
Lol, who cares? All my computers at home hibernate after no use for 2 hours. It has saved me 30-40 bucks a month in electricity costs that is a new 24" monitor every year or 2 sushi dinners a month. I don't think I have a single computer that is on 24 hours a day anymore at home and I love it.
An Education is the Font of All Liberty
FeatureList-> here
Among the features are "cloud computing" and "turn-key" email servers. *groan*. You guys have been saying "linux needs an advertising dept"...well this is what happens.
THL phish sticks
Takes more effort to script them so I don't have to spend effort starting them up on every reboot.
You're kidding right? You're going to regret that decision if you lose power for longer than your UPS has batteries.
Honestly, it can't seriously be that much effort.
My pics.
Takes effort to startup the programs that I keep running all the time on it.
Takes more effort to script them so I don't have to spend effort starting them up on every reboot.
Then you should run netbsd.
/etc/rc.conf
echo some-program=YES >>
http://michaelsmith.id.au
Ubuntu is linux-based, not Windows. We're not used to rebooting all the time.
It's only a matter of opinion, I still think the default look isn't too bad at all... however I may be the only one. While I think the look is ok, they _have_ had the same look for quite some time now. Last time I checked they seemed to be saying that a new look would be coming with 9.10... but I think they said the same thing for the last three releases.
Any chance that the ath5k driver will be fixed for the Acer Aspire One (8.9")? It's getting better -- the machine no longer hangs with the capslock led flashing.. :) But updating to the RC and attempting to do large transfers still results in the occasional buffer corruption (invalid CRCs).
Invalid Checksum. Retrying.
Ubuntu is linux-based, not Windows. We're not used to rebooting all the time.
Every 18 months is not "all the time".
My pics.
Takes effort to startup the programs that I keep running all the time on it.
Your Porn Torrents?
And that means rebooting.
Erm? Why is a reboot a problem?
He was making a 'joke', or humerous implication that as a Linux user, rebooting is both an extremely rare occurrence, and something inconvenient enough to avoid (which it generally is, if you have the option to avoid it).
Rampant carbon sequestration destroyed the Dinosaurs' tropical paradise. I'm here to help repair the damage.
no, they restart automatically.. I mean, hey! I don't have any...........
How we know is more important than what we know.
echo some-program=YES >> /etc/rc.conf
What if the scripts he runs require a particular user? Or have startup dependencies? Or a million other things that can add complexity to a startup script.
netBSD has its advantages. This is not one of them.
My pics.
http://www.gnome-look.org/
http://www.kde-look.org/
no matter what the ubuntu devs choose for the default theme, someone is going to be unhappy and that is why we have whole domains devoted to hosting various shiny things to put on your *nix box to customize to your liking.
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
Isn't that "beauty lies in the cockles of the beholder" or "beauty lies to the beholder to escape its paralyzing glare"? Oh, eyes of the beholder, that's it.
I'm in the mood to get reckless and use experimental software to handle my upgrade. I know I'm not the only one using apt-p2p tonight!
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6058308
I am aware that I will get tones of flak for this...I am ready so go right ahead.
I'll bet you're ready!
After all, you've had plenty of practice trolling linux users haven't you?
My pics.
Takes effort to startup the programs that I keep running all the time on it. Takes more effort to script them so I don't have to spend effort starting them up on every reboot.
How did you ever get Linux on your system in the first place?
My present hypothesis is that your system crashed and the Ubuntu CD was marginally closer to your workstation than the Windows reinstall disk.
When things get complex, multiply by the complex conjugate.
I upgraded a while ago to Fedora Core 10, running KDE with the HW accelerated desktop, Compiz and effects turned on. It almost never ceases to draw a surprise when I'm working while on display and casually turn the whole desktop into a cube, rotate it to a blank side, and put it back down!
It's damned good looking and makes even OSX 10.5 look dated! I use OSX and didn't really notice it until I went to buy a new screen and saw OSX on display.
Windows is about as exciting as watching bread turn green, but even MacOS looked kinda plain compared to my sexy new laptop display!
And I'm talking about simple looks, here. To be honest, it still has some stability issues that annoy the ?@?!/ out of me. Fedora 9 was painfully bad - worst distro I've ever used - but 10 is a good step in the right direction. KDE 4.2.x is the best 4 so far but it's still not functionally anywhere near 3.5.
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
You are just being silly, right? Ubuntu 8.10 has had 5 kernel security updates in the 6 months since its release. Each one requires a reboot to be activated. Keeping a Linux installation secure requires frequent reboots.
I prefer running Linux instead of other operating systems, but I find it disheartening to read silly statements like this. Let Linux stand on its own merits; there is no need to lie on its behalf.
Here's that list in case you're curious:
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-751-1
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-715-1
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-679-1
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-662-1
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-661-1
Pluses:
Minuses:
Speaking of comparisons, anyone have some links
about memory usage?
Some simulations/virtualizations of Win7 I've
been present for seem to show it using less RAM
idling than WinXP, albeit the Win7 is a clean
install, and the XP is Scotty style rigged
holding together after 6 years or so.
However my laptop with Ubuntu 8.10 seems to use
about half the available 464MB RAM. With Win7
idling at 40% used, should I average everything
and call it about even?
But then what about not having to use Anti-Virus
on Linux? Speed boost, eh? I'm not concerned with
look and feel. I just want my computer to run
optimally. My XP install is old. I don't even
know how I managed to fix the broken MSI install
capability.
My only other concern is drivers. If I have an
old enough ATI card, will there by some kind of
accelerated driver for it? I'm guessing the
answer to this is going to be use-the-live-cd and
find-out.
My CPU is an early Pentium 4 and a recent upgrade
to 1.5GB from 512MB of RDRAM.
Well, at least it now comes with some nice themes installed (but not activated) by default, and the new usplash and GDM are much better than before.
Those using pirated Tinysoft signatures(TM) are a real threat to society and should all be thrown in jail.
[N]o matter what the ubuntu devs choose for the default theme, someone is going to be unhappy and that is why we have whole domains devoted to hosting various shiny things to put on your *nix box to customize to your liking.
I'm no Gnome or KDE expert, but how exactly does opting for a different theme change, in the OP's words, an "interface ... whose icons are rather big"? Every screenshot or desktop I've seen uses large icons.
Dunno about everyone else, but I'd think that large icons should be considered a waste of real estate and a distraction. Assuming, of course, that you don't have a Very Large Monitor, or otherwise have little real work to do.
The 'Lightning' add-on for Thunderbird lets you subscribe to multiple Google calendars & shows them as a sidebar to Thunderbird's mail window. Not quite the same as having it in Gnome panel, but I thought you might be curious to check it out if you weren't already aware of it.
You can actually install the Lightning add-on for Thunderbird which will give you calender functions. I totally agree Evolution suck a$$ and do wish they make Thunderbird de facto standard just like Firefox.
What is really nice about Thunderbird the fact there are Linux and Windows versions which can both read the SAME data files without any kind of conversion. Really slick. I was doing that for awhile until I finally weaned myself off of WinXP for good.
Slashdot ate my [/sarcasm] tag ;)
Now I got to upgrade... World of Warcraft 3.1 dropped Tuesday.. my fragile little psyche can only handle one upgrade at a time! Couldn't they have waited a week? I mean, come on.. think of the kittens.
Don't rush me, Sonny. You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
Woe to anyone using an intel video card! Right now we're experiencing random lockups, and performance has generally been subpar for a lot of people. I'm not sure how stable UXA is yet, earlier it was causing a lot of lockups.
you can change the size of icons in the prefs. I don't know where anyone gets this idea that icons are somehow one size fits all...
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
I didn't notice until earlier tonight, but CentOS 5.3 has been released!
http://www.centos.org/
>But then what about not having to use Anti-Virus
on Linux? Speed boost, eh?
Well, antivirus tends to trash the hard disk which is the performance bottleneck of most PCs. Speaking of which, ext4 is rather nice and fast IMO.
>I'm not concerned with look and feel. I just want my computer to run optimally.
Why ubuntu then, you may want to try xubuntu perhaps?
>My CPU is an early Pentium 4 and a recent upgrade to 1.5GB from 512MB of RDRAM.
That should be more than enough for Ubuntu, my aunt has Linux (albeit not Ubuntu, but it shouldn't be much slower) running on a 1.4 Pentium 4 with 640 mb ram and Nvidia GeForce2 440 MMX with basic compiz effects enabled.
>My only other concern is drivers. If I have an
old enough ATI card, will there by some kind of
accelerated driver for it? I'm guessing the
answer to this is going to be use-the-live-cd and
find-out.
Apparently you'll be using open-source ati driver. It has 3d acceleration and it should be enough for compiz. My gf has an old ATI card, with no proprietary driver available. Compiz is a bit slow but still usable.
I just upgraded, and I gotta say, it's been pretty painful.
There's also been a million smaller gripes here and there, and this is only after an hour or so. Basically, the user experience could use a major amount of work in my estimation :(
Includes the ext4 file system---having upgraded to ext4, I'm really noticing the performance upgrade.
Be warned that the ext4 implementation in the RC is buggy. See Known Issues. It is expected to be fixed in the final release. So, stay will ext3, and upgrade to ext4 once the final release comes out.
We will just have to wait.
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X seems to lock up the computer. I just get some weird pixellation. Can't switch to a console window. I'm using an onboard Radeon 690G. it happened a couple versions ago. On the bright side, I learned how to use wpa_supplicant with dhclient to connect to my router from the command line. On the other hand, does nobody realise how annoyingly complicated that is for the average person? on the negative side, still can't get into X. Do they want me to reinstall from scratch? very odd that this happens in an upgrade.
Other minus: Updates killed my sound (on both a laptop and a desktop) not long after it went beta. Fortunately, it works in a fresh install. I guess a config file got clobbered somewhere.
When I go to bed I usually have a dozen untitled kwrite windows with short notes in them, several browsers whose auto-reloading of tabs I don't 100% trust to keep half-typed forum posts and the like (though FF seems better lately), and various programs like korganizer which I've been too lazy to figure out how to schedule to automatically join the system tray at startup. So rebooting is a pain, yes.
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Yes, the reboot prompts are quite annoying. I like my odds better running an insecure linux delaying the reboot for a couple weeks than running an insecure windows doing the same, though, thanks to market share.
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You know that "just works" meme? How about the USER just getting work done, not "enjoying the inspirational GUI". Writing a paper? Doing research? Coding? How about you STFU about how the GUI looks and get your fucking work done? Like your productivity is better with Aero turned on? Wasted HDD, RAM, and Cycles. And that goes triple for every Apple OS.
THL phish sticks
Desktops need big big icons. And only three or four of them, ten-ish if you're on a double large screen setup. Otherwise it just looks all too cluttered and annoying.
That's not what it said.
...is expected that a fix for this problem will be made available as a post-release update
Even the final release will be affected by this bug.
There, fixed that for you.
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
This is not a troll. I'm a Linux user (occasional foray in to OpenBSD) and intend on staying that way. I also like the way Linux is going (including audio) moving complex features out of the kernel in to userspace. Yay for xorg, libusb, fuse, audio in principle and so on.
But what is the state of audio daemons in ubuntu?
As a non-ubuntu point, does anyone know if there is a simple kernel module which accepts the standard ioctls and so on on /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer and forwards them back to a userspace sound daemon?
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Actually, for me it was: Windows crashes I try to install it again but Windows fails to activate correctly and I can't use my license key anymore without calling support. That made me return to Linux, I should always be able to use my computer even if I can't get onto the net for a month of two.
Ubuntu being usable as a desktop by default was a strong argument as well.
Now while agreeing they are silly, since you have to restart applications with remote attacks (like, Firefox, Pidgeon etc). You are never secure on the local machine anyways. I think there were two remote attacks in those notices, SCTP and ndiswrapper neither should be common practice.
What type of extra detail are you looking for?
And that means rebooting.
Erm? Why is a reboot a problem?
Do you run Ubuntu on your server? (In which case, why would you be considering a Release Candidate?)
Or do you never reboot your home PC? (Surely you can afford a scheduled reboot overnight when you're sleeping).
Or are you just after uptime bragging rights? (That's really a bit sad on a home computer that isn't under heavy load)
I guess the parent just likes to have the choice to choose freely. But I understand your point of view, my guess is for you rebooting your PC is synonymous to fixing your PC. Some of us moved away from such operating systems many years ago.
Oh yeah, bragging about having uptime is like bragging about having two legs. We don't make fun of the crippled but we embrace what we have.
I am the lawn!
Hi all, I was playing WoW, and when I installed 8.10 and used PA my FPS droppped about 33%. I then removed PA, killed the process and everything was back normal.
... software.
Is situation better with 9.04? I don't want to criticize PA too much but (even as PA developers admitted) when it went out in 8.10 was an immature and slow piece of
How is the situation now? Which version of PA will be in Ubuntu 9.04? Any WoW player around trying 9.04?
Cheers,
If you're using KDE (and I can assume you are, since you use KWrite) and you're using 4.x, try using the "notes" plasmoid. The good thing about it is that it remembers your notes, and they're always within easy access. The bad thing is of course that they suck at resizing and moving (is this fixed in 4.2?), and probably aren't as kind to your computers' resources as KWrite. Still, it works without hassle on my 2 year old Sony Vaio, so you should be OK.
Even the final release will be affected by this bug.
I checked the page and it says:
When using the ext4 filesystem, accessing large files can trigger a kernel panic and filesystem corruption. The fix for this problem will be included in the final 9.04 release. Users installing from the Ubuntu 9.04 Release Candidate may wish to avoid this problem by using the default ext3 filesystem and converting it to ext4 after release.
Maybe that page changed meanwhile.
If you're really determined though, you can always use ksplice to patch, and avoid rebooting.
One more thing Linux has on Windows.
Some people seem to like forced reboots (see other replies to the parent comment), but I'm not one of them.
Installed the Bubblemon yet?
you mean that you cannot start a new process pointing to the new libraries and then safely signal the "old" one to stop ? :-)
in addition, I thought that you could easily restart the Linux Kernel without having to restart the physical hardware... surely that's what I would call a plug&play OS, not the other one...
don't let your limitations impose themselves on other things...
Can I put a spell on those who can't spell?
Your wheels are loose and they're losing their grip, good you're there.
The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it.
Like this ?
Squirrel!
I just finished my upgrade. Everything seems to be running great, stability is rock solid, no probl
Yeah thats why I tend to keep all my notes in OneNote. *ducks*
3laws: No freebies, no backsies, GTFO.
+1. I'm not sure why so many geeks like to brag about how much electricity they use.
I shut down my PC when I'm not using it. Sometimes I shut it down immediately, but usually at night I listen to some music, and tell the PC to shut down when it's done.
I have a function:
musicshutdowninminutes () {
sleep ${1}m && \
dcop amarok MainApplication-Interface quit;
sleep 15; sudo shutdown -h now
}
which lets Amarok remember the playlist (I'm sure it could be improved).
It also means I don't have to sleep with the noise of a PC in my room. Leaving one on 24/7 presumably sucks more dust inside too, and wears out the fans.
Python updated to 2.6.*, I've been waiting for that. Especially the backported Python 3 functionality is interesting; it'll also make porting to 3 easier.
Pulseaudio is still very buggy. It eats my CPU cycles, and I need those for several things, not just Pulseaudio. Removing it takes care of that issue as usual. I'll try again in six months. The same for KDE 4, I'll seriously try it when I don't run into several bugs before the desktop is completely loaded.
The new Nvidia drivers add support for vdpau, which means hardware video decoding for x264, VC-1 and WMV. It'll require you to compile Mplayer from SVN but if you're lucky enough to have a card that supports it, it's well worth it. The only method, that I know of, to run 1080p with decent quality and performance on Linux.
That, and this release actually seems stable. The last several final releases I waited a few weeks before upgrading, it seems that won't be necessary this time. Linux is really turning into a thing, it would appear.
I got an unreadable desktop after the upgrade.
Finally fixed it by changing the anti-aliasing set up in the System Settings/Appearance.
Otherwise looking good....
god n. : the Supreme Being, indistinguishable from a good random number generator.
I read the thing when it was first released (I was online when they sent the e-mails through the mailing lists) and it has always read what you quoted, so I'm not sure what that parent is talking about.
I've been using the thing since Alpha 6. They've ironed out a lot of bugs since then, and the Beta was really rather stable.
I haven't had or seen any nVidia card issues; is this a known bug? what card are you running?
Basket is not quite a OneNote clone, but it's got most of OneNote's features. I personally hate Basket, but many people love it. I have never used OneNote, though.
http://basket.kde.org/
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
I don't go in for Schanedfreude but it is comforting to know that the Linux crowd is having Nvidia problems too. I live in FreeBSD land and intend to stay there (Netcraft will confirm it) and Nvidia "says" they "want" to make a native BSD driver but need some more of something from the BSD folks. I don't know what, and I don't know if they haven't given it to them, don't want them to have it or just don't have either the time or resources to do it right now. In any event it hasn't happened and I too have to run Linux binary blob drivers. They're really fine for my needs and they might be a damn sight better than that except I don't game and have only one monitor so I don't push the video layer that much.
Thanks for the word that it's not always sweetness and roses over there; sometimes it's discouraging not having the big developer base or all the press coverage and groupies and such, but I rarely have any issues with my small network so I'm not constantly reminded how far behind are my OS and its accoutrements. Nvidia blobs have made us brothers in suffering, yes? It will all work out though, it always does.
Good Luck,
Over Here
I'm running the Jaunty beta right now, and will probably regress to 8.10 soon because of the ATI drivers. The problem, AFAIK, is that the version of X.org 9.04 is shipping with will only support Catalyst 9.4 (currently in beta for linux). Catalyst 9.4 dropped support for a large number of older chipsets, basically anything earlier than R600, deferring to the always-improving open source ati drivers to support these. The open source driver is wonderful for 2D acceleration. It seems to handle all of the desktop effects with ease. The problem is that it's miles behind the fglrx (proprietary/Catalyst) drivers for 3D support. The reports I was able to scrounge online seem to indicate that open source ati 3D support is a good year away from general availability.
"Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?"
One more thing Linux has on Windows that few people will bother to implement.
Fixed that for you.
9.04 doesn't even boot on my laptop (an HP DV2, some kind of SATA driver problem).
Furthermore, I can't figure out where to report this. What's the point of having a beta or an RC if it's difficult for users to give feedback?
I hate to be involved in my DE is better than yours pissing competitions but if you were on kubuntu there is a tickbox to restart all your programs when your reboot :P
I'm sure there is something you can install to get gnome to do that too.
IranAir Flight 655 never forget!
Instant security updates are a pretty good thing, if ksplice is as good as it sounds, it won't take long for distros to integrate it into their update system. It's not limited to the kernel either so webservers can also be instantly patched with no downtime.
IranAir Flight 655 never forget!
Keeping a Linux installation secure requires frequent reboots.
We have different values of "frequent"
No sig for the moment.
That was a strange poem...
No sig for the moment.
I'm gonna try that at home. I normally don't use KDE programs, but I'll do it anyway because OneNote fucking rocks.
great!
This problem has allegedly been fixed but there is no mention anywhere of whether it affects linux-rt as well. Can anyone shed some light? I haven't had my coffee yet, late start today.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Go to "places" menu. There is a LARGE computer icon with the words "COMPUTER" by the side of it. The "computer" is the same as the "my computer" you are looking for. The lack of "my" got you lost, i suppose.
Regarding the brown problem. Click with the left button on the desktop and choose the "Change Background" (it is the last one on the list). Them pick up any wallpaper you want.
I hope this will help you operating this strange thing in from of you the people call computer and make you see the internets
-- dnl
You know there is an option were you can tell ubuntu what to start during bootup, right?! ;-) No script required. Just click on the program and bam. Its done. :-)
-- dnl
Starting it up on vmware! And if you ask how did he get the other Linux were vmware runs, He start it on another vmware. Iterate util hell freezes
-- dnl
5 reboots in 18 months is not "all the time" either!
-- dnl
I'm reasonably certain nouveau supports dual monitors. I may need to test on my laptop again, but it's been working quite nicely for the most part.
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Open Source Sysadmin
you can change the size of icons in the prefs.
Try looking at the toolbar of any GUI app, or anything that offers file management functions, (for example) and explain how exactly one can "change the size of icons in the prefs" or how your "change themes" comment is relevant? If I could change any of this, I would, but am forced to (in the case of toolbars, for example), configure each app (on a per-app basis) to hide the toolbar.
Thankfully, I don't use many GUI apps, but fucking hell, the days of giant Volume Control knobs on our stereos disappeared decades ago. Do we really need their screen equivalents? And then, do you see Microsoft inserting 24 and 32 pixel icons where they're uncessary or inappropriate?
I don't know where anyone gets this idea that icons are somehow one size fits all.
Like I said, those with oversized screens or who don't have to do any real work probaby won't notice or mind the state of things.
Not saying it's a bad thing or something people wouldn't want. But if it requires manual patching of the application and the update system, very few are going to want to do it themselves. The distros themselves are going to have to add it, like you mentioned.
Which old ATI card?
I as because I am using an old dell laptop (work machine - techs seem to be bottom of the pile for now hardware) and although I have 3accell it is mesa accelerated and I could not find the correct drivers for it.
The card is an ATI Radeon Mobility with 32mb ram. I wont be using Compiz but I'd like some decent performance out of it.
Any ideas?
Seven Days with Ubuntu Unity
There are Release Candidates for alternative architectures (non-x86/non-AMD64) available as well, such as for
Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5)
Playstation 3
SPARC (including Niagara)
HP PA-RISC
Ubuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Server Install CD, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/
Kubuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/
Xubuntu 9.04 RC (no SPARC, no PA-RISC version here)
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/
As to the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs, there's a version for the Low-Power Intel Architecture (which includes the Intel Atom platform), too.
Make sure to utilize the jigdo or torrent methodologies if possible, to save bandwidth.
Walter.
Well, that sounds familiar, especially for the "short notes" part. :D I think that suspend (or hibernate) is a good middle ground here.
hmm... I had problems with the restricted drivers in 8.10 too. But could also be a problem of the Wows new graficengine, because with 7.10 I could play on screen an look tv on the other.. Hope too that twinview will get a better support.
Sure, there is a checkbox... and if you try it in current Ubuntu release:
> ** (gnome-session-properties:27389): DEBUG:
> Session saving is not implemented yet
It's still half-broken, AFAIK.
Not this option. Go to administration (or preferences, can't remember). There is an option called "processes" (or "services"). Click on add and choose your app. It will be started automatically.
Sorry for being vague. No ubuntu at work. If you think its necessary, I can check it at home
-- dnl
Erm? Why is a reboot a problem?
On Vista I didn't have to reboot after the last patch Tuesday. 10 patches to Office and Windows installed, no reboot required.
Suck it, Trebek!
If you're really determined though, you can always use ksplice to patch, and avoid rebooting. One more thing Linux has on Windows.
Umm... no. Microsoft has had hot-patching available for several years. Not many people use it, because most critical Windows systems that can't tolerate downtime are clustered. But it works. I think some Windows Server 2008 patches are actually distributed through Windows Update with hot-patching enabled by default; I have had many patches on 2008 not require any reboots.
Phew! Thanks for the save...