Should Network Cables Be Replaced?
Jyms writes "As technology changes, so hubs routers and switches are upgraded, but does the cabling need replacing, and if so, how often? Coax gave way to CAT 5 and CAT 5e replaced that. If you are running a 100Mbit/s network on old CAT 5, can that affect performance? Do CAT 5(e) cables get old?"
For best performance, replace it with a genuine high performance cable like this: http://www.usa.denon.com/productdetails/3429.asp
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Should I have a plumber re-run copper all over my house?
maybe if your new sink is capable of 1000 gpm (gallons per minute) and the pipes can only provide 100 gpm. but that's only if you care about using your new sink to its full potential.
Only if you need bigger pipes.
You should replace your tired old CAT5 with brand new, all-gold Monster-CAT6+++++++!
Only $1000 a foot, starting in 10 foot increments!
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When it was installed, your old cable had to run signals uphill through the snow, both directions. They didn't have electrons back then, they had to nake do with quarks. Time hadn't been invented yet, so the direction and speed of network traffic was hard to estimate.
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It's not pipes. It's a series of tubes.
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If you do not, then cracks will appear and bits will start to drip from it. Soon, that drip will become bigger and you will have bytes dropping out. Cheaper to replace them now, then to lose all those bytes. I can be over there next week to replace them all for a low low price.
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maybe if your new sink is capable of 1000 gpm (gallons per minute) and the pipes can only provide 100 gpm. but that's only if you care about using your new sink to its full potential.
The bathroom stalls where I work are always full. There's not enough toilets for the number of butts. They could certainly benefit from upgraded bathroom bandwidth.
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Coopper can oxidize (turn green) if it isn't protected well. Some cheap old cables may have oxidated to the point that they no longer preform their designed duties, but that would be indicated by the fact that traffic wasn't flowing.
To check the cables for this problem, simply remove the insulation from the cable and check for oxidation. Replacing the insulation after checking is a somewhat harder problem.
If the cables still work, aren't disintigrating, and aren't causing problems; then I wouldn't waste the time, effort, and money replacing them.
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its the interfaces, not the bandwidth
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The bathroom stalls where I work are always full. There's not enough toilets for the number of butts. They could certainly benefit from upgraded bathroom bandwidth.
yeah, I'm sure the bandwidth (drain pipe) is large enough for all the shit. It sounds more like they need to increase the number of connections allowed.
We replaced all of our Type 1 cabling at my company after the tokens started falling out.
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OF WHAT?! Ewww...
Instead of increasing bandwidth, what about using traffic-shaping instead? I'm not sure if this is something that could be automated, or if it would need to be done manually [shudder].
Obviously, to anyone familiar with overselling is aware of, the problem is not the number of users for the bandwidth assigned. The problem is likely that 2% of your poopers consume (bad word choice, I know) 98% of your bandwidth, resulting in a logjam of epic proportions just after lunch. They key would be to cap their usage, so that everyone else can use the bandwidth in moderate amounts.
Most likely, your excessive users are illegally logsharing anyway. There can't be any legitimate reason for someone to spend 4 hours a workday on the crapper, can there?
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Yes, but make sure all the connectors are gold plated - it helps to improve the quality of the water.
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***Copper pipes actually do lose capacity in normal use, at least with hard water. So I'd replace those cables if you've been running hard bits through them.*** In order to avoid problems like this in the future, we recommend that you install a Scamcraft 357A Bit Softener on each network port that operates at speeds greater than 10Mbps.
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... I had to use LACP trunking to get my bandwidth up.
I had a mental image of you sitting by the wiring closet, along the hotel corridor, staring intensely at your laptop.
Wearing only a towel.
Any category of "cat" can certainly help with that...
Over time, UV and ozone in the atmosphere attack the plasticiser in PVC cables. This makes the outer jacket stiff and prone to cracking. Long before the cracks are large enough to be visible, they can be letting surprisingly large amounts of ether escape from your ethernet. Quite often you can regas the cables with a bottle of ether and a special adaptor, but ultimately you will still need to replace them.
No, you don't get it. This is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your shit in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, ENORMOUS amounts of material.
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Yeah, the cables too do not get old. They just get clogged.
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Play one of those halloween scary sound CD's on repeat, very loud, all day. It's not so much scary as it is unsettling, and people will avoid spending time in there unless it's an emergency.
Alternate titles:
pigs being slaughtered
Jokes, except the punchline is cut out
one cat, in heat, wailing and meowing to be let out
classical out of one speaker, the sound of crazed laughter out the other
the sound of two balloons being rubbed together
random gunshots spaced 30 sec-90 sec apart. LOUD.
highly amplified signal coming from a microphone near the occupant's toilet
ticking clock that randomly speeds up and slows down
the soundtrack from zombo.com
I don't know. I think my idea would work.
No offense, but I've stopped responding to AC's.
Rather than standard cat6, get Denon's super high fidelity cable. http://www.usa.denon.com/productdetails/3429.asp
/smirk
"AK-DL1
$499.00
Denon's 1.5 meter (59 in.) proprietary ultra premium Denon Link cable was designed for the audio enthusiast. Made from high purity copper wire and high performance connection parts, the AK-DL1 will bring out all the nuances in digital audio reproduction from any of our Denon DVD players with the Denon Link feature connected to a Denon Link enabled Denon A/V receiver. The AK-DL1 employs high level tin-bearing alloy shielding not typically available in commercial cabling, to eliminate data loss caused by noise. Additionally, signal directional markings are provided for optimum signal transfer. Attention to detail when building this cable was used by employing high quality insulation and woven jacketing to reduce vibration and to add durability. Rounded plug levers help prevent breakage.
For operational and technical assistance 24/7, use our self help Online Support Center, where answers to many common questions can be found."
If it's good enough for high fidelity audio reproduction, it should be good enough for our crappy data only needs.
Do you think Sherlock Holmes would have solved so many cases if he smoked a tube? No, Watson, he fucking well wouldn't.
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I thank you for making me laugh... Once upon a time, I was called in to an "emergency meeting" with the head of sales to discuss "network problems" has was having. I took along my network guy and we were introduced to a "network specialist" (a friend of one of the sales guys) which (with a straight face) proceeded to describe how the cables were "old" and the "electrons inside had probably worn out". The meeting ended when I could not stop laughing...
I needed to laugh again, and your post did it....
I didn't overclock my sink and bling it out with tube lighting and a giant plexiglass window just so I could settle for a measily 100gpm. I want power, and damnit I'm going to get it, no matter how much those pipes cost!
its the interfaces, not the bandwidth
I don't know about you, but I prefer using the other end.
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Fuck yes!
"If you're going to do anything, upgrade to fiber."
Thanks for the tip!
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Well, you could reduce the buttwidth to increase the utilization. I think you'll find, though, that simultaneous pot sharing is going to be a non-starter for your user community. To say nothing of dealing with backup issues.
So, yeah, how did that shielded unshielded twisted pair work out for ya?
Kinky.
John
I tend toward wireless for the home network. If I need to replace the air, I open a window.
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its the interfaces, not the bandwidth
I don't know about you, but I prefer using the other end.
You defecate through your penis?
Fascinating.
I read "Should Network Cables Be Replaced" and thought maybe I could learn something and gain some insight. Instead I'm treated to the most bizarre toilet analogy of epic proportions.
This may be the best reply thread in the history of /. IMHO.
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Talk the cafeteria into serving more protein and less fiber. That ought to reduce the packet size, and should affect the timing to put more of the transactions off-network.
Maybe they should just add a wireless hotspot and allow anonymous connections!
I think Monster sells those. With gold plated connectors. $150000 each.
I just looked inside my cables to see if they were clogged. Turns out they were. Every one of my vinyl data conduits was all plugged up with copper.
Slashdot, should I get new intertubes?
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Oh sure, blame the content providers!
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Are you implying that a cat5 network is a series of tubes? O.o
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never said you did. platinum's corrosion resistant, expensive, and shiny, which makes it a perfect fit for monster's business model. (it's also a worse conductor than gold, but their target market won't know that.)
Media that can be recorded and distributed can be recorded and distributed.
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Yes get the best monstercable.com has to offer. In fact get two I've heard that will double your data quality!
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I recall a video of a pair of females who multipliexed a container for that purpose.
This may be one instance where REDUCING the amount of fibre in the network may help ease the load.