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The History of Microsoft's Anti-Competitive Behavior

jabjoe writes "Groklaw is highlighting a new document from the European Committee for Interoperable Systems (PDF) about the history of Microsoft's anti-competitive behavior. Quoting: 'ECIS has written it in support of the EU Commission's recent preliminary findings, on January 15, 2009, that Microsoft violated antitrust law by tying IE to Windows. It is, to the best of my knowledge, the first time that the issue of Microsoft's patent threats against Linux have been framed in a context of anti-competitive conduct.' The report itself contains interesting quotes, like this one from Microsoft's Thomas Reardon: '[W]e should just quietly grow j++ share and assume that people will take more advantage of our classes without ever realizing they are building win32-only java apps.' It also has the Gates 1998 Deposition."

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  1. Brings me back by mc1138 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I remember one of my first computer courses in school where we were taught computer history. I still remember the professor telling us about the early days of Microsoft and how it didn't take long for them to start ripping off ideas, only to then buy the company that was suing them.

    1. Re:Brings me back by deets101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There was a documentary on PBS about the rise of computers called Triumph of the Nerds from 1996. It showed how MS stumbled ass backwards into a lot great situations. Also showed how some companies completely misunderstood computers and showed a painful lack of foresight. Xerox, anybody?

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    2. Re:Brings me back by MikeBabcock · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All of it (intellectual property), should eventually be made free, after the creators have had a chance to profit off it for a reasonable time.

      Wait, that's what Copyright says. Damnit.

      We just lost 'reasonable' somewhere along the line.

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    3. Re:Brings me back by sjames · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The fact is that MS existed before the PC and Gates really wrote code for their Basic interpreters. They were written in multiple assembly languages for each target processor. That's geek enough for you.

      Also a great example of how MS set it's behavior early. Gates took quite a number of pre-orders on the strength of a promised delivery date. A year AFTER that date, many wondered if they had been had since they received nothing. Someone managed to grab a paper tape with the pre-release code, fix the large number of bugs and distribute the now working interpreter before Gates got the official one out.

      That's what inspired him to write his screed against copying software which completely ignored the fact that the incident was the only reason he didn't have dozens of people breathing down his neck about the large (for the time) sum of money they paid him and the over a year late product he was to give them in return.

      Another aspect that showed what was to come from MS, he was using Harvard's mainframe without permission to develop the code since there was an Altair emulator available and he didn't own the real thing himself.

      Were someone to do exactly the same thing today, their university would promptly assert ownership over the work.

      I'd say it's not marketing that Gates and MS excel at, but dirty tricks and borderline business practices.

    4. Re:Brings me back by SiChemist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      14 years. That's what we considered reasonable before Disney perverted the system.

  2. And now for the cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This might be old news but it is relevant as with the likes of BPOS and Azure it appears that Microsoft is attempting to shift their existing monopolies into the cloud by both providing different licensing models for themselves and competitors in a cloud and by linking it closer to services offered in their next generation operating systems.

    Clearly Microsoft's agenda is to use their existing desktop monopoly to grab a monopoly in the cloud.

    Posted Anonymously for a reason.

    1. Re:And now for the cloud by Burkin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Posted Anonymously for a reason.

      Fear of a chair to the head?

  3. Re:Anyone else notice by JCSoRocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bill's strong point was always the fact that he was a shrewd businessman. His tactics obviously weren't always friendly but you can't deny that he created an incredibly powerful company in a relatively short period of time. I am, however, looking forward to seeing more time spent on technology and less time spent sidelining competitors.

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  4. Re:WOW... this is breaking Shocking News... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft, anti competive? Wow... like we all did not know this?! In all seriousness, this is GOOD to keep the pressure and public awareness on what is going on. Even if we all have to hear about it 100's of times quarterly. The public and governments MUST be made aware that MS sucks.

    I think they ARE aware of that. I think they're acting like the battered/abused woman who stays with the abusive man for years and years because she's fucked up in the head. After a while she starts defending the guy, not unlike the pro-MS posters here on Slashdot that you swear must be shills except they're probably not actually getting paid. Seriously, those people just can't understand that Microsoft is not your buddy, when you stick up for Microsoft like a loyal little sycophant it's not like they are capable of appreciating it, they are a mindless faceless corporation without any sort of feeling.

  5. Stacker / DBLSpace / Lawsuit by apodyopsis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, I'm showing some age here.

    Remember in 1989 the Stacker disk compression fiaso?

    I think that was one of the original examples of this kind of behavior, in this case Stac electronics were able to get some money from MS - but it was a sour victory as MS has effectively removed them from the market place in the process.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stac_Electronics

    nearly 30 years of watching MS I have no faith that the firm will *ever* play fair, and as a business trying to please their shareholders it is very naive to expect them to do so. they have a monopoly and will abuse it to their benefit as long as they can get away with it.

  6. Companies as competing Organisms by UseCase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given the opportunity it is very hard for any person or company to pass up a chance to change the rules of a game in a way that disadvantages its competition in that game. This is especially true when survival is at stake. We do not and should never condone this type of behavior but we must realize it is natural and (without regard to morality) should be expected. This type behavior is bad for our industry as we have all seen so we must always be aware that some company out there will always try this as a means to advantage and stop it to allow strength to be generated via fierce competition.

    1. Re:Companies as competing Organisms by shelterpaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Given the opportunity it is very hard for any person or company to pass up a chance to change the rules of a game in a way that disadvantages its competition in that game. This is especially true when survival is at stake. We do not and should never condone this type of behavior but we must realize it is natural and (without regard to morality) should be expected. This type behavior is bad for our industry as we have all seen so we must always be aware that some company out there will always try this as a means to advantage and stop it to allow strength to be generated via fierce competition.

      It's bad for every industry. It's natural to be competitive and that's why morals and values are a good thing. Business is bad when the bottom line and being number 1 becomes more important than the product. At that point you've lost focus and have embraced greed. I'm a small business owner, but I learned from a great mentor that all deals should be win/win and you should never screw someone over to get ahead or you'll get a bad name. When I sell, I don't bad mouth competitors products and I tell the people who work for me not to either. Say a few positive things about the competition and then educate the merits of your product, if it's good it'll sell.

      Being conservative I have to say that the Bush administration really let us down with the MS antitrust case. Not to mention other things, but I prefer to stay on topic.

  7. Re:WOW... this is breaking Shocking News... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    lol. Slashdot has always been like this. The mainstream media noticed us and ignored us years ago.

    I've noticed a lot of posters relatively recently that are popping up and basically saying "linux is not ready yet, until you plug it in and it 'just works' it won't be ready", either implying Windows does "just work" or explicitly stating it. I know no computer does that, there's niggles in everything, but I seem to hear that mantra more often than I ever did.

    Maybe you havn't been paying attention to them, but they're there.

    There are a lot of pro-MS postings, I've done them myself, but they tend to be more objective against trolls saying Linux is perfect at everything and Windows couldn't possibly be any good. Windows is a perfectly usable OS, I just consider Linux to be architecturally better and has the potential to be significantly better.