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Windows 7 To Include "Windows XP Mode"

Z80xxc! writes "Paul Thurrott's WinSuperSite reports that Windows 7 will include a built-in virtual machine with a fully licensed copy of Windows XP Professional SP3. The VM runs in a modified version of Virtual PC, and applications running in the VM can interact directly with the host operating system as if they were running on the Windows 7 installation itself. While details are scarce for now, it looks as if this feature will only be available as a (free) addon for Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate editions of Windows 7. Also, a processor supporting hardware virtualization will be required, indicating that this is perhaps aimed more at power users and corporate users, rather than consumers. Microsoft confirmed the feature last night."

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  1. Had that for awhile now... by downix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Altho I call it Kubuntu with XP running in QEMU....

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    1. Re:Had that for awhile now... by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When do you think VM images will outnumber disk images on the pirate sites?

      XP! Pre configured, fully loaded with apps, fully patched, and pre hacked. Please seed!

    2. Re:Had that for awhile now... by spud603 · · Score: 5, Funny

      XP! Pre configured, fully loaded with rootkits, fully patched, and pre hacked. Please seed!

      fixed that for you

    3. Re:Had that for awhile now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Excellent, that will make this easier.

  2. I knew it! by mc1138 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only way they'll convince people to switch to Windows 7 is to bundle it with XP!

    1. Re:I knew it! by master5o1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You dawg, I heard you like Windows, so we put Windows in your Windows so you can BSOD while you BSOD.

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  3. Wait a second by downix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    if it will run XP mode software, wouldn't that mean XP style viruses now have a key right into the system?

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  4. Re:And who needs it most? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet who is more likely to have old applications or hardware that will need XP? If you have the latest and greatest full bells and whistles OS, you probably have the latest version of your apps as well. Once again, MS misses the boat.

    It seems that it's you who is missing the boat. This is a very good move on MS' part for companies that have custom apps that are known to run properly on XP. Rather than having to go through extensive testing to ensure they run properly on Windows 7, they can instead be run in this VM. It's a move to make companies feel more at-ease in their transitions to Windows 7.

  5. Re:And who needs it most? by Lord+Lode · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think companies are more likely to depend on old software that runs only on XP. So they target the correct users indeed.

    Most non-corporate users only use programs to browse the tubes, print documents, send email and view photo's, nothing that depends on XP :)

  6. Will solve a lot of legacy problems by Nichotin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have had a Windows XP Professional running in VMware on my MacBook and my Vista 64-bit desktop from the beginning. It solves a lot of problems with some quirky legacy apps I have to run.

    And thanks to the USB support, I can also use:
    1) Very old USB scanner with XP 32-bit drivers. I use it a few times a year for digitalizing reciepts etc., and I really don't want to pay for a new one.
    2) Random gadgets with stupid software and buggy drivers.

    Getting this free with Windows 7 would really rock.

  7. Won't solve a whole lot by SilentChris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unfortunately, while this is a long overdue solution that other companies have used fine before, but it's going to prove problematic for Microsoft. Things that won't work (and Joe User will try to do anyway):

    1.) Install their XP-compatible Antivirus program. "It said on the Windows 7 box that I could run old programs!"
    2.) Install a printer which works on XP only. "The printer box said it works on Windows. Why can I only print from some programs (the older ones seem to work)?"
    3.) Play an old game at reasonable speed. "I installed Super Hardware Killer Shooter for Windows XP and the 3D is running really slow!"

    Virtualization is a great thing. I use it work all the time and love it. The public doesn't quite "get it" yet. They're going to see some things work, some things not and wonder why the hell that is. It happened when Apple moved to OS X, but the user base was much smaller so the complaints were less.

    Until someone creates a hypervisor which is presented in a completely transparent way to the OS, in that things difficult to virtualize (e.g. video card hardware) run at normal speeds, it's just going to appear to the user "every time I run an old program, either it's too slow or it doesn't work".

  8. Thumbs up! by Jonas+Buyl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's an interesting decision. By implementing an easy-to-use VM for legacy software they're able to stick to their policies (maintain support for all legacy Win32 software) and on the other hand restructure their operating system with new knowledge. Each time I see news on Windows 7 I can't help but wondering if Microsoft has finally seen the light. There might be hope still!

  9. Requested by the Military by WED+Fan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The U.S. Military is heavily invested in several applications that have been tested at Microsoft. (Military members do have offices in Redmond for this purpose.) Windows 7 was shown to have some issues. The USN scrapped plans to move to Vista, planned for this quarter, and decided to wait for Windows 7, but needed XP compatibility. The VM compromise was brewed up.

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    1. Re:Requested by the Military by wwphx · · Score: 5, Informative

      I hope this causes them to upgrade their VirtualPC as it doesn't support USB devices currently.

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