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Second Swedish ISP Starts Scrubbing IP Addresses

Posted by timothy on from the you-may-borrow-the-hashed-list-though dept.

Marzubus writes "Tele2, a popular Swedish ISP, has started to remove IP addresses from its logs. This is the second ISP in Sweden to adopt this new privacy protection strategy." We discussed not long ago when another ISP, Bahnhof, started doing the same. Perhaps this is the corporate equivalent of joining the Pirate Party.

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  1. This will likely keep happening by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a competitive advantage, after all. Soon enough, I imagine all major ISP's here will do this as long as there isn't new legislation against it. These are also all very good signs of just how aggressive and poorly thought out the IPRED law in reality was.

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    1. Re:This will likely keep happening by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It also makes pretty good business sense. You never have to spend a few hours chasing backups of logs for investigations. There just isn't anything there for the police to want to look at.

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    2. Re:This will likely keep happening by SausageOfDoom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Never going to happen in the UK though - it's now a legal requirement that ISPs log all IPs. And all e-mail headers. And soon all web requests. And no doubt keyloggers shortly after that.

      And a good thing too! Let's stop those damned terrorists, criminals, paedophiles and other sexual deviants! Living in the UK is awesome - just look how much our government cares about our well-being!

    3. Re:This will likely keep happening by Jurily · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It also makes pretty good business sense. You never have to spend a few hours chasing backups of logs for investigations. There just isn't anything there for the police to want to look at.

      Not having to be a snail for the next life is also a plus.

    4. Re:This will likely keep happening by legirons · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Incidentally, we're about to build 5 new prisons. And to think some cynical people are pointing out that we're in a recession

      Uhh, recessions cause increases in crime. Think about it for a moment - lots of people with no jobs and no money and nothing to lose and nothing better to do -- what do you expect to happen if not burglaries?

  2. ISPs and law enforcement by BigHungryJoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Could ISPs get away with this in the United States without facing legal issues or retribution from the cops?

    I love this idea - I don't trust law enforcement at all and would pay a premium to know that I wasn't leaving logs with my ISP for the cops to read.

    America is such a "law and order" country though, the cops wield so much power that I doubt such an ISP would be allowed to exist.

    1. Re:ISPs and law enforcement by SwedishPenguin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh they will "correct" this here as well soon enough. The data retention directive will be implemented this fall, and all the ISPs will be forced to keep logs for at least 6 months.

      Swedes: vote for the Pirate Party in European Parliament election on the 7th of June, early voting begins on the 20th of May
      Other EU citizens: vote for whatever party has the most integrity friendly platform.

      We're facing a big problem in the EU. Corruption is rampant among our politicians and the eagerness of politicians to control our society's access to information and surveil our activities has never been higher.

  3. Re:Simply Economics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most, if not all, of politics are motivated by economics so I fail to see your point.